Don't buy the Quook propaganda!!!
Head-to-head, division champion, conference champion, Rose Bowl champion > Fiesta Bowl champion and higher final ranking.
Quooks will tell you Oregon is better this year as well, even though we were massacred by Stanford, lost the division to them, and won a gas station bowl.
Head-to-head, division champion, conference champion, Rose Bowl appearance > Gas Station Bowl and higher final ranking.
Stanford is a better program than Oregon right now, trying to church that up is part of the problem.
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Oregon should not finish this year ranked ahead of Stanford. If they do, that's just further proof that the rankings are FS.
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It's going to be a lot closer than it should be.dnc said:Oregon should not finish this year ranked ahead of Stanford. If they do, that's just further proof that the rankings are FS.
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Pressing.
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Seeing Slingblade turning a Ferrari into a Toyota Corrola and the Eagles success made me appreciate Chip Kelly a lot more as a coach. Man is that guy good. Uncle Phil should have handed him a blank check and told him to write in whatever number he wants.
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As to your basic conclusion about which program is better, well, that's obvious because Kelly is gone.Mosster47 said:Last year Stanford beat Oregon, won the North, won the Pac-12, and won the Rose Bowl. Oregon lost to Stanford, didn't win the North, didn't win the Pac-12, and won the Fiesta. Quooks were all in unison saying Oregon has a better season because they finished the season ranked higher.
Head-to-head, division champion, conference champion, Rose Bowl champion > Fiesta Bowl champion and higher final ranking.
Quooks will tell you Oregon is better this year as well, even though we were massacred by Stanford, lost the division to them, and won a gas station bowl.
Head-to-head, division champion, conference champion, Rose Bowl appearance > Gas Station Bowl and higher final ranking.
Stanford is a better program than Oregon right now, trying to church that up is part of the problem.
But you pose two wildly different scenarios. In the first, it's less clear. In the latter, it's obvious. This year, no question Furd had the better season. They'll be ranked higher and lost to a good Big 10 opponent in the Rose. The Alamo is the Alamo and Oregon finished the season miserably. Frankly, they didn't look that great against Texas either.
But last year? Stanford barely beat them. That coming on the heels of two ass throttles going the other way when they had Harbaugh and Luck. And winning the Fiesta bowl like they did against a pretty good K State team ... I don't know man. Did Furd technically have the better season last year? Sure, the conference champhionship defines that. But at that point were they the better program? Hardly. The seasons were fairly comparable at that point and Kelly was still there. This year is altogether different.
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Didn't 'Bama win a national championship in the same year they failed to win the SEC West or the SEC Championship? Yeah, but LSU had the better season.
The Quooks are totally wrong, but so are you Negaducks. Try to have some understanding of college football. There is no justice. Stanford lost three games, Oregon lost two. Shaw coached like an idiot in the Rose Bowl, and Helfrich wasn't Kelly in the Gas Station Bowl.
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Total losses is a terrible metric when one team faced the ghost of Mack Brown and the other faced a top 5 team in the bowels.ToiletSeat said:Didn't 'Bama win a national championship in the same year they failed to win the SEC West or the SEC Championship? Yeah, but LSU had the better season.
The Quooks are totally wrong, but so are you Negaducks. Try to have some understanding of college football. There is no justice. Stanford lost three games, Oregon lost two. Shaw coached like an idiot in the Rose Bowl, and Helfrich wasn't Kelly in the Gas Station Bowl.
JFLIFPTFO!
Stanford beat Oregon head to head, had a better finish in the same division, and had a better non conference win.
Stanford 13 >>>> Oregon 13, wiff a bullet.
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creepycoug said:
As to your basic conclusion about which program is better, well, that's obvious because Kelly is gone.Mosster47 said:Last year Stanford beat Oregon, won the North, won the Pac-12, and won the Rose Bowl. Oregon lost to Stanford, didn't win the North, didn't win the Pac-12, and won the Fiesta. Quooks were all in unison saying Oregon has a better season because they finished the season ranked higher.
Head-to-head, division champion, conference champion, Rose Bowl champion > Fiesta Bowl champion and higher final ranking.
Quooks will tell you Oregon is better this year as well, even though we were massacred by Stanford, lost the division to them, and won a gas station bowl.
Head-to-head, division champion, conference champion, Rose Bowl appearance > Gas Station Bowl and higher final ranking.
Stanford is a better program than Oregon right now, trying to church that up is part of the problem.
But you pose two wildly different scenarios. In the first, it's less clear. In the latter, it's obvious. This year, no question Furd had the better season. They'll be ranked higher and lost to a good Big 10 opponent in the Rose. The Alamo is the Alamo and Oregon finished the season miserably. Frankly, they didn't look that great against Texas either.
But last year? Stanford barely beat them. That coming on the heels of two ass throttles going the other way when they had Harbaugh and Luck. And winning the Fiesta bowl like they did against a pretty good K State team ... I don't know man. Did Furd technically have the better season last year? Sure, the conference champhionship defines that. But at that point were they the better program? Hardly. The seasons were fairly comparable at that point and Kelly was still there. This year is altogether different.
Head-to-head, division, conference, Rose Bowl > Fiesta Bowl. How you could even question this is CheswickFR.
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