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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    The facts were that barry was an AA admit, didn't deserve to be editor of the law review and was a black liberationist marxist America hater and had his books ghost written.

    Sometimes the satire just writes itself.
    And most of the time lightweight Kunts are reduced to ankle biting when they can't refute or even address anything that was said.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,026
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    trublue said:

    Why were his academic records sealed? During his reign, some contractors employed by the Department of Education either attempted to or actually saw his records. They were all federally prosecuted.

    Did you miss the news about it?

    Obama had was graded differently, he was special. You used to be able to look that up but doubtful you'll find it anymore. Otherwise he probably wouldn't graduate or achieve any recognition.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    Sledog said:

    trublue said:

    Why were his academic records sealed? During his reign, some contractors employed by the Department of Education either attempted to or actually saw his records. They were all federally prosecuted.

    Did you miss the news about it?

    Obama had was graded differently, he was special. You used to be able to look that up but doubtful you'll find it anymore. Otherwise he probably wouldn't graduate or achieve any recognition.
    Yeah, I think that's bullshit and made-up. Go with it if you like; but on its face it's implausible.
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Sledog said:

    trublue said:

    Why were his academic records sealed? During his reign, some contractors employed by the Department of Education either attempted to or actually saw his records. They were all federally prosecuted.

    Did you miss the news about it?

    Obama had was graded differently, he was special. You used to be able to look that up but doubtful you'll find it anymore. Otherwise he probably wouldn't graduate or achieve any recognition.
    Yeah, I think that's bullshit and made-up. Go with it if you like; but on its face it's implausible.
    What’s implausible is that nobody at the reunion for the year Obama’s 30th reunion for his major remembers him at all at Columbia. Maybe he was allowed to just not go to class.

    How can nobody remember such unique leader that he ultimately became President?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theblaze.com/amp/barack-obama-the-ghost-of-columbia-university-2622115352

    I am a graduate of Columbia University, Class of 1983. That’s the same class Barack Obama claims to have graduated from. We shared the same exact major- Political Science. We were both Pre Law. It was a small class- about 700 students. The Political Science department was even smaller and closer-knit (maybe 150 students). I thought I knew, or met at least once, (or certainly saw in classes) every fellow Poly Sci classmate in my four years at Columbia

    But not Obama. No one ever met him. Even worse, no one even remembers seeing that unique memorable face. Think about this for a minute. Our classmate is President of the United States. Shouldn't someone remember him? Or at least claim to remember him?

    One of the speakers at the 30th reunion should have reminisced about “my days with the future President.” But no one did. You’d think Obama might have sent a video to tell us all how much he enjoyed his time at Columbia. You’d think he’d have sent at least a letter to be read aloud from one of his former college buddies. Right? But he didn't. Because Obama has no former college buddies. No one that ever met Obama, let alone befriended him, was in attendence at our 30th class reunion.

    Now you might argue this is all strange, but it’s possible. Afterall Columbia says he graduated. And I take my college’s word for it. Would one of the world’s greatest Ivy League institutions participate in a coverup, thereby risking their billion dollar reputation? And there is one single article written for the Columbia newspaper with Obama’s name on it. A single photo also exists of Obama in his Manhattan apartment with the man he claims was his college roommate- a Pakistani foreign student. And one single radical leftist Columbia professor who hates Israel also claims he remembers Obama

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,026
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    One of the professors in charge of an important political science class said everyone in that curriculum came through his class and he doesn't remember Obama. Not at all.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,026
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    Sledog said:

    trublue said:

    Why were his academic records sealed? During his reign, some contractors employed by the Department of Education either attempted to or actually saw his records. They were all federally prosecuted.

    Did you miss the news about it?

    Obama had was graded differently, he was special. You used to be able to look that up but doubtful you'll find it anymore. Otherwise he probably wouldn't graduate or achieve any recognition.
    Yeah, I think that's bullshit and made-up. Go with it if you like; but on its face it's implausible.
    IIRC it was a reliable source I found and may have been Harvard itself but unlikely to find anything derogatory on BHO now.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    It was in all the papers

    Trump spent his first two years at Fordham anyhow, so his SATs would have nothing to do with him transferring to Penn. Post-Fact Democrats won’t know this anyhow. Seems like an easy fact check since Mary Trump says it was to get into Penn and her publisher didn’t even look into it.
    True. Worming your way into the Ivy League back then was a much different animal than it is today. There's some rough math out there that goes: 40 years ago, Harvard was comprised of 20 to 30% brilliant students and 70 to 80% connected people. Today, it's pretty much the other way around.

    So that means two things. One, there was no shame in back-door'ing his way into Penn. More than half the kids there got in with money or connections, not brains. Two, that he had to transfer from Fordham to get to there means he wasn't an academic powerhouse, which shouldn't really shock or bother anybody. Most U.S. Presidents weren't either. See the Kennedys.

    It seems to me Trump's talent is less book smart brilliance and more instinct and balls. I worked with a CFO who was like that. Great CFO, but he also used words like "irregardless" and has probably never read a book on anything that didn't involve making money. Didn't have the GMAT score for an elite MBA. But he could assimilate the economics of any situation faster than anybody I've known and had a knack for capital markets and finance. Trump seems more like that guy.

    Would I believe that Trump paid someone to take a test for him? Of course. That's clearly something he would do if he thought he needed it. Anybody here would also believe that. As to whether I care ... not really.
    Obama basically followed that same path by transferring from Occidental to Columbia and he’s regarded as an intellectual powerhouse.
    Agreed. That, plus AA means he had a huge leg up.

    And, like Trump, Obama is a cult of personality and he has his legions of blind followers. I am not one of them. With that said, I can see at least one reason why even non-followers assume Obama is super smart: he's articulate. In our society, you get a Yuge benefit of the doubt if you speak well. And teleprompter or not (I've seen several Obama interviews w no prompter), he's a very articulate guy and smooth. He's also thin, decent looking and looks good in a suit. Also, and this is important, I think it's credit to the USA (and somewhat of a response to all the allegations of systemic racism) that a lot of people were pulling for him as the first AA POTUS. A lot of people wanted Obama to be successful precisely because he was black and everyone knew we? were overdue for a minority POTUS.

    Trump strikes the image of contrast to all that. He certainly has his qualities. I like a lot of his brashness and ballz. I tend to like people of that personality-type. But we both know that he's not great with English and he's not a great orator - often categorically unclear in his speech - unless he's in shit-talker mode, where he's at his best. He's kinda fat, old looking and his hair is an unmitigated disaster.

    When your mom says that so-and-so is "really put together", she means a guy like Obama. She'd never think of Trump in that sense. Aspects of him are a bit of a mess.

    So, my point here, is that Obama presented a much more appealing aesthetic to Trump. Hard to deny that is the case. That's the superficial explanation for Obama is assumed to be brilliant. He's nicer to look at and listen to. Think JFK. Same thing. Nixon was at least as smart as JFK, but Nixon was Nixon.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,015
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    I'm on the MLK Jr. school of racial identity. I don't view voting for someone based on race or sex or sexual preference as an indication of some sort of moral superiority to someone who votes based on the issues and the person's ability to move those issue forward. To me voting based on race or sex is weak minded. I don't mind rooting for the underdog to succeed, but they need to do so based on performance.
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    trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
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    Apparently, my question was too tough for Green Gator to answer.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,609
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    trublue said:

    Apparently, my question was too tough for Green Gator to answer.

    That's par for the course. Most questions are
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    Sledog said:
    I don't recall you holding Huffpo in high regard. Now all of sudden, it seems you do.

    Not your best contributions Sleddy.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    I'm on the MLK Jr. school of racial identity. I don't view voting for someone based on race or sex or sexual preference as an indication of some sort of moral superiority to someone who votes based on the issues and the person's ability to move those issue forward. To me voting based on race or sex is weak minded. I don't mind rooting for the underdog to succeed, but they need to do so based on performance.

    And?
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    It was in all the papers

    Trump spent his first two years at Fordham anyhow, so his SATs would have nothing to do with him transferring to Penn. Post-Fact Democrats won’t know this anyhow. Seems like an easy fact check since Mary Trump says it was to get into Penn and her publisher didn’t even look into it.
    True. Worming your way into the Ivy League back then was a much different animal than it is today. There's some rough math out there that goes: 40 years ago, Harvard was comprised of 20 to 30% brilliant students and 70 to 80% connected people. Today, it's pretty much the other way around.

    So that means two things. One, there was no shame in back-door'ing his way into Penn. More than half the kids there got in with money or connections, not brains. Two, that he had to transfer from Fordham to get to there means he wasn't an academic powerhouse, which shouldn't really shock or bother anybody. Most U.S. Presidents weren't either. See the Kennedys.

    It seems to me Trump's talent is less book smart brilliance and more instinct and balls. I worked with a CFO who was like that. Great CFO, but he also used words like "irregardless" and has probably never read a book on anything that didn't involve making money. Didn't have the GMAT score for an elite MBA. But he could assimilate the economics of any situation faster than anybody I've known and had a knack for capital markets and finance. Trump seems more like that guy.

    Would I believe that Trump paid someone to take a test for him? Of course. That's clearly something he would do if he thought he needed it. Anybody here would also believe that. As to whether I care ... not really.
    Obama basically followed that same path by transferring from Occidental to Columbia and he’s regarded as an intellectual powerhouse.
    Agreed. That, plus AA means he had a huge leg up.

    And, like Trump, Obama is a cult of personality and he has his legions of blind followers. I am not one of them. With that said, I can see at least one reason why even non-followers assume Obama is super smart: he's articulate. In our society, you get a Yuge benefit of the doubt if you speak well. And teleprompter or not (I've seen several Obama interviews w no prompter), he's a very articulate guy and smooth. He's also thin, decent looking and looks good in a suit. Also, and this is important, I think it's credit to the USA (and somewhat of a response to all the allegations of systemic racism) that a lot of people were pulling for him as the first AA POTUS. A lot of people wanted Obama to be successful precisely because he was black and everyone knew we? were overdue for a minority POTUS.

    Trump strikes the image of contrast to all that. He certainly has his qualities. I like a lot of his brashness and ballz. I tend to like people of that personality-type. But we both know that he's not great with English and he's not a great orator - often categorically unclear in his speech - unless he's in shit-talker mode, where he's at his best. He's kinda fat, old looking and his hair is an unmitigated disaster.

    When your mom says that so-and-so is "really put together", she means a guy like Obama. She'd never think of Trump in that sense. Aspects of him are a bit of a mess.

    So, my point here, is that Obama presented a much more appealing aesthetic to Trump. Hard to deny that is the case. That's the superficial explanation for Obama is assumed to be brilliant. He's nicer to look at and listen to. Think JFK. Same thing. Nixon was at least as smart as JFK, but Nixon was Nixon.
    Trump looked good when he was Obama's age. He looks like an old fat fuck now. While I agree that Trump has his fans the cult like level of some of his supporters never came close to Obama's cult followers.

    https://youtu.be/zt6JWzBqLWs

    https://youtu.be/fCL8jxpVHK8
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    Sledog said:

    trublue said:

    Why were his academic records sealed? During his reign, some contractors employed by the Department of Education either attempted to or actually saw his records. They were all federally prosecuted.

    Did you miss the news about it?

    Obama had was graded differently, he was special. You used to be able to look that up but doubtful you'll find it anymore. Otherwise he probably wouldn't graduate or achieve any recognition.
    Yeah, I think that's bullshit and made-up. Go with it if you like; but on its face it's implausible.
    What’s implausible is that nobody at the reunion for the year Obama’s 30th reunion for his major remembers him at all at Columbia. Maybe he was allowed to just not go to class.

    How can nobody remember such unique leader that he ultimately became President?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theblaze.com/amp/barack-obama-the-ghost-of-columbia-university-2622115352

    I am a graduate of Columbia University, Class of 1983. That’s the same class Barack Obama claims to have graduated from. We shared the same exact major- Political Science. We were both Pre Law. It was a small class- about 700 students. The Political Science department was even smaller and closer-knit (maybe 150 students). I thought I knew, or met at least once, (or certainly saw in classes) every fellow Poly Sci classmate in my four years at Columbia

    But not Obama. No one ever met him. Even worse, no one even remembers seeing that unique memorable face. Think about this for a minute. Our classmate is President of the United States. Shouldn't someone remember him? Or at least claim to remember him?

    One of the speakers at the 30th reunion should have reminisced about “my days with the future President.” But no one did. You’d think Obama might have sent a video to tell us all how much he enjoyed his time at Columbia. You’d think he’d have sent at least a letter to be read aloud from one of his former college buddies. Right? But he didn't. Because Obama has no former college buddies. No one that ever met Obama, let alone befriended him, was in attendence at our 30th class reunion.

    Now you might argue this is all strange, but it’s possible. Afterall Columbia says he graduated. And I take my college’s word for it. Would one of the world’s greatest Ivy League institutions participate in a coverup, thereby risking their billion dollar reputation? And there is one single article written for the Columbia newspaper with Obama’s name on it. A single photo also exists of Obama in his Manhattan apartment with the man he claims was his college roommate- a Pakistani foreign student. And one single radical leftist Columbia professor who hates Israel also claims he remembers Obama

    Not sure what I, or anyone else, is supposed to do with this. BO was more of a known quantity at HLS. It's entirely plausible, for me, that a kid could transfer and spend, what, two years at Columbia and not be remembered. Columbia is small by state school standards, and big by elite private college standards. My kid attended a well known LAC with about 2500 total students. Even as a distinguished athlete, it's entirely likely you could find many kids in her class who don't recollect her. Columbia has over 9,000 undergraduates. It's also in the New York city surrounded by millions of people. It's a busy place. Yes, entirely believable you can find people who don't remember him. Especially if you're looking for him.

    I'm not a huge BO fanboy. But it's clear that the Tug takes a pretty critical angle on him any chance it gets, and enthusiastically embraces a lot of conspiracy made-up shit about the guy with out application of that famous Tug cynicism.

    We can like or hate a guy's policies and term as POTUS w/o having to completely blow the guy up. I say the same about Trump.

    Q: is the birther stuff alive and well amongst the Trump faithful?
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    Stop pressing creep

    It's ok if Obama gets criticized or looked at critically

    He'll live
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Sledog said:

    trublue said:

    Why were his academic records sealed? During his reign, some contractors employed by the Department of Education either attempted to or actually saw his records. They were all federally prosecuted.

    Did you miss the news about it?

    Obama had was graded differently, he was special. You used to be able to look that up but doubtful you'll find it anymore. Otherwise he probably wouldn't graduate or achieve any recognition.
    Yeah, I think that's bullshit and made-up. Go with it if you like; but on its face it's implausible.
    What’s implausible is that nobody at the reunion for the year Obama’s 30th reunion for his major remembers him at all at Columbia. Maybe he was allowed to just not go to class.

    How can nobody remember such unique leader that he ultimately became President?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theblaze.com/amp/barack-obama-the-ghost-of-columbia-university-2622115352

    I am a graduate of Columbia University, Class of 1983. That’s the same class Barack Obama claims to have graduated from. We shared the same exact major- Political Science. We were both Pre Law. It was a small class- about 700 students. The Political Science department was even smaller and closer-knit (maybe 150 students). I thought I knew, or met at least once, (or certainly saw in classes) every fellow Poly Sci classmate in my four years at Columbia

    But not Obama. No one ever met him. Even worse, no one even remembers seeing that unique memorable face. Think about this for a minute. Our classmate is President of the United States. Shouldn't someone remember him? Or at least claim to remember him?

    One of the speakers at the 30th reunion should have reminisced about “my days with the future President.” But no one did. You’d think Obama might have sent a video to tell us all how much he enjoyed his time at Columbia. You’d think he’d have sent at least a letter to be read aloud from one of his former college buddies. Right? But he didn't. Because Obama has no former college buddies. No one that ever met Obama, let alone befriended him, was in attendence at our 30th class reunion.

    Now you might argue this is all strange, but it’s possible. Afterall Columbia says he graduated. And I take my college’s word for it. Would one of the world’s greatest Ivy League institutions participate in a coverup, thereby risking their billion dollar reputation? And there is one single article written for the Columbia newspaper with Obama’s name on it. A single photo also exists of Obama in his Manhattan apartment with the man he claims was his college roommate- a Pakistani foreign student. And one single radical leftist Columbia professor who hates Israel also claims he remembers Obama

    Not sure what I, or anyone else, is supposed to do with this. BO was more of a known quantity at HLS. It's entirely plausible, for me, that a kid could transfer and spend, what, two years at Columbia and not be remembered. Columbia is small by state school standards, and big by elite private college standards. My kid attended a well known LAC with about 2500 total students. Even as a distinguished athlete, it's entirely likely you could find many kids in her class who don't recollect her. Columbia has over 9,000 undergraduates. It's also in the New York city surrounded by millions of people. It's a busy place. Yes, entirely believable you can find people who don't remember him. Especially if you're looking for him.

    I'm not a huge BO fanboy. But it's clear that the Tug takes a pretty critical angle on him any chance it gets, and enthusiastically embraces a lot of conspiracy made-up shit about the guy with out application of that famous Tug cynicism.

    We can like or hate a guy's policies and term as POTUS w/o having to completely blow the guy up. I say the same about Trump.

    Q: is the birther stuff alive and well amongst the Trump faithful?
    Hillary’s team started the Birther stuff.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html

    The answers to your other questions are in the article. Do you have no friends from your undergrad major, especially in a class of 150 in your department? Nobody in your major that would remember you, even in 400-level classes with 10-20 students?

    It seems “implausible” considering Obama ended up becoming the first black President. Impossible, actually. Nobody from your undergrad would remember you from class? I’d think that a future President would be fairly outspoken in a PoliSci class.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,015
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    Let's see. He lied about health care. He lied about energy. He was an anti-American POS. He gave billions to the Iranians. His administration, with his knowledge illegally spied on Congress, the US press and the republican campaign for President. He ran guns to the Mexican cartels. So what conspiracy made up sh*t are you concerned about. I don't know of one conservative poster on the old shed or here that thinks barry wasn't born in Hawaii. The fact that he called himself a Kenya for college admissions and for his book biography was just barry lying. He was the first American president that grew up dreaming of becoming the Prime Minister of Indonesia. Quite the background.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    edited July 2020

    Stop pressing creep

    It's ok if Obama gets criticized or looked at critically

    He'll live

    Hardly. In a thread with a lot conjecture and little support, it's another shocking Race take that I'm the one pressing.

    But, please, press on.
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    SFGbob said:

    It was in all the papers

    Trump spent his first two years at Fordham anyhow, so his SATs would have nothing to do with him transferring to Penn. Post-Fact Democrats won’t know this anyhow. Seems like an easy fact check since Mary Trump says it was to get into Penn and her publisher didn’t even look into it.
    True. Worming your way into the Ivy League back then was a much different animal than it is today. There's some rough math out there that goes: 40 years ago, Harvard was comprised of 20 to 30% brilliant students and 70 to 80% connected people. Today, it's pretty much the other way around.

    So that means two things. One, there was no shame in back-door'ing his way into Penn. More than half the kids there got in with money or connections, not brains. Two, that he had to transfer from Fordham to get to there means he wasn't an academic powerhouse, which shouldn't really shock or bother anybody. Most U.S. Presidents weren't either. See the Kennedys.

    It seems to me Trump's talent is less book smart brilliance and more instinct and balls. I worked with a CFO who was like that. Great CFO, but he also used words like "irregardless" and has probably never read a book on anything that didn't involve making money. Didn't have the GMAT score for an elite MBA. But he could assimilate the economics of any situation faster than anybody I've known and had a knack for capital markets and finance. Trump seems more like that guy.

    Would I believe that Trump paid someone to take a test for him? Of course. That's clearly something he would do if he thought he needed it. Anybody here would also believe that. As to whether I care ... not really.
    Obama basically followed that same path by transferring from Occidental to Columbia and he’s regarded as an intellectual powerhouse.
    Agreed. That, plus AA means he had a huge leg up.

    And, like Trump, Obama is a cult of personality and he has his legions of blind followers. I am not one of them. With that said, I can see at least one reason why even non-followers assume Obama is super smart: he's articulate. In our society, you get a Yuge benefit of the doubt if you speak well. And teleprompter or not (I've seen several Obama interviews w no prompter), he's a very articulate guy and smooth. He's also thin, decent looking and looks good in a suit. Also, and this is important, I think it's credit to the USA (and somewhat of a response to all the allegations of systemic racism) that a lot of people were pulling for him as the first AA POTUS. A lot of people wanted Obama to be successful precisely because he was black and everyone knew we? were overdue for a minority POTUS.

    Trump strikes the image of contrast to all that. He certainly has his qualities. I like a lot of his brashness and ballz. I tend to like people of that personality-type. But we both know that he's not great with English and he's not a great orator - often categorically unclear in his speech - unless he's in shit-talker mode, where he's at his best. He's kinda fat, old looking and his hair is an unmitigated disaster.

    When your mom says that so-and-so is "really put together", she means a guy like Obama. She'd never think of Trump in that sense. Aspects of him are a bit of a mess.

    So, my point here, is that Obama presented a much more appealing aesthetic to Trump. Hard to deny that is the case. That's the superficial explanation for Obama is assumed to be brilliant. He's nicer to look at and listen to. Think JFK. Same thing. Nixon was at least as smart as JFK, but Nixon was Nixon.
    Trump looked good when he was Obama's age. He looks like an old fat fuck now. While I agree that Trump has his fans the cult like level of some of his supporters never came close to Obama's cult followers.

    https://youtu.be/zt6JWzBqLWs

    https://youtu.be/fCL8jxpVHK8

    Stop pressing creep

    It's ok if Obama gets criticized or looked at critically

    He'll live

    It's pretty telling with the lineup in this thread that you'd pick mine as the presser. Good work. Good effort.
    I'm right

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