Johnny Manziel

dhdawg

for me the only player I've seen that's even comparable to Manziel is Brett Favre. He will make a lot of boneheaded plays but his competitive drive and playground mentality will make him one of the most unique QB's and best playmakers of this generation. His pocket passing is improving as well, he just needs to learn to get down and run out of bounds.
He'll throw picks, but he'll make a lot of plays that make u wonder how he did it.
Maybe I'm just a sucker for Manziel

dhdawg

obviously Manziel is a better runner and favre was a better passer, but their improvisation skills are very similar

allpurpleallgold

I think he's special. Can't wait to draft him on my fantasy team.

RoadDawg55

I think he's going to be really good, but I can see why he is a risk.

[Deleted User]

i like him.

PRedoubt

... but I don't think he's gay?

[Deleted User]

Don't be fooled guys. He's the next Tebow, big time guy in college who won't do shit in NFL.

Meek

Still he was amazing to watch in college

dhdawg

He_Needs_More_Time said:

Don't be fooled guys. He's the next Tebow, big time guy in college who won't do shit in NFL.

asanine, tebow can't throw anywhere close to Manziel

[Deleted User]

He won't be Tebow bad but due to the hype he'll resemble Tebow.

He won't do shit in the NFL.

dhdawg

He_Needs_More_Time said:

He won't be Tebow bad but due to the hype he'll resemble Tebow.

He won't do shit in the NFL.

I have all the screenshots I need

dhdawg

I wouldn't draft him #1 but when all is said and done he will be the best qb out of this class

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dhdawg said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

He won't be Tebow bad but due to the hype he'll resemble Tebow.

He won't do shit in the NFL.

I have all the screenshots I need

Likewise, I don't think he'll do very well.

no_uh

He can throw and he's about 1000x more elusive than Tebow. He certainly has a better chance at succeeding.

Mosster47

Tebow was amazing in college because any time it was any down & short he would convert it.

Johnny Football could certainly fail at the next level, but their games are much different.

dnc

Mosster47 said:

Tebow was amazing in college because any time it was any down & short he would convert it.

Johnny Football could certainly fail at the next level, but their games are much different.

Agreed. Manziel throws a much better ball than Tebow does, too.

BlowItUp

He_Needs_More_Time said:

Don't be fooled guys. He's the next Tebow, big time guy in college who won't do shit in NFL.

open your eyes. it will save you from making idiotic comments.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

He's small, immature, and in the NFL guys are much stronger and faster. He's not going to flame out in two years or anything, but I would be surprised if he made more than one Pro Bowl ( Matt Schaub and Derek Anderson made one so it's obviously not that hard) and won more than one playoff game. Take all the screenshots you want.

dhdawg

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

He's small, immature, and in the NFL guys are much stronger and faster. He's not going to flame out in two years or anything, but I would be surprised if he made more than one Pro Bowl ( Matt Schaub and Derek Anderson made one so it's obviously not that hard) and won more than one playoff game. Take all the screenshots you want.

that's what worries me, durability

RaccoonHarry

He's more accurate than I thought and has plenty of arm strength. He's thrown quite a few picks though (22) and NFL corners will give him trouble. If he can dial back his penchant for always wanting to make the heroic play he had a chance to make it at the next level. He HAS to avoid big hits though. He's a tough little fucker but the big boys will break him in half unless he limits the hits.

creepycoug

agreed. a wild card. no outcome would surprise that much. the game has changed and the paradigm for QB in the NFL has broadened. there are more offensive packages that are played in the League now to best suit the talent at that position.

that said, he does things in college that will blow up in his face in the NFL. that (admittedly amazing) play where he just throws himself into a crowd of blockers and defenders and somehow bounces out on his feet? yeah, in the NFL an outside LB or safety comes up and decapitates him. he doesn't live to make that play.

I wonder how good he would have been with Kelly in the read option at Oregon had MM not committed. All in all, I'd take MM over him because, if nothing else, MM's height will give him a shot, at least a shot, at being an NFL QB. I know it's being done now with shorter guys, and I'm no Hugh Millen, but if you can get height AND mobility in the same guy, you take it.

Global

Short quarterbacks have no prospect in the NFL.

Everyone in Seattle should know that.

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Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

He's small, immature, and in the NFL guys are much stronger and faster. He's not going to flame out in two years or anything, but I would be surprised if he made more than one Pro Bowl ( Matt Schaub and Derek Anderson made one so it's obviously not that hard) and won more than one playoff game. Take all the screenshots you want.

The only guy who gets it in this thread. Can't believe you guys are all falling for the Manziel hype.

CuntWaffle

Manziel had a FANTASTIC offense in college. Two top 5 tackles and Mike Evans just for starters. He won't be able to do his playground football thing as much in the NFL. If he goes to the Raiders bust for sure.