rel="chuck">Petersen was the main draw for elite kids and their families and also the best recruiter/closer. Is this surprising to anyone?
I thought Lake could jeep it going. He blew it. Fire the university.
Someone posted about how this one class of diamonds shouldn't hurt the roster too bad as long as it's a one time thing. I agree, but there are two ways this could turn around before the damage starts:
1) A big 2020 season...this would help for sure but not seal anything in recruiting if these guys are really this bad at it. Plus there wont be a 2020 season.
2) Jimmy gets disgusted enough to clear out his staff and make some flash hires. This isn't happening either. He doesn't seem to have any contacts or pull to make big time hires.
TLDR...FUCK
Literally 95% of this bored bought into the narrative that Petersen was a cancer to recruiting and didnt understand it despite the fact that our classes were getting better and better every year.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
Yep. All one had to do though was to look at the relative success of Pete in recruiting compared to Sark. Sark surrounded himself with recruiters (Sirmon, Tosh, Heyward) and made a big, public show of his emphasis on it. In five years he never came close to the level that Pete's very different staff achieved with Petersen expressing his disdain for the process the entire time.
rel="chuck">Petersen was the main draw for elite kids and their families and also the best recruiter/closer. Is this surprising to anyone?
I thought Lake could jeep it going. He blew it. Fire the university.
Someone posted about how this one class of diamonds shouldn't hurt the roster too bad as long as it's a one time thing. I agree, but there are two ways this could turn around before the damage starts:
1) A big 2020 season...this would help for sure but not seal anything in recruiting if these guys are really this bad at it. Plus there wont be a 2020 season.
2) Jimmy gets disgusted enough to clear out his staff and make some flash hires. This isn't happening either. He doesn't seem to have any contacts or pull to make big time hires.
TLDR...FUCK
Literally 95% of this bored bought into the narrative that Petersen was a cancer to recruiting and didnt understand it despite the fact that our classes were getting better and better every year.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
I think the narrative was more He couldn’t get the fast fast twitch LA type kids. Which was true. Pete was boring white with virtues and vision for life. That was to slow for many.
We figured Jimmy would be just the guy, for obvious reasons, to help land Troy, Denzel, Ortiz, etc. He was going to bring us hype without the faggyness and be able to draw attention of the fan boys loving getting their tip dipped in grellow by cristoballz. The right combo and virtues, vision, fast and slow twitch. We also believed that the DB hires would cement this.
20/20 right.
The same fuckery translated into playing time, game management and wins/loses will have us all ballzing backwards wishing for Pete’s return. Maybe even Race will miss him then...?
Petersen was the main draw for elite kids and their families and also the best recruiter/closer. Is this surprising to anyone?
I thought Lake could jeep it going. He blew it. Fire the university.
Someone posted about how this one class of diamonds shouldn't hurt the roster too bad as long as it's a one time thing. I agree, but there are two ways this could turn around before the damage starts:
1) A big 2020 season...this would help for sure but not seal anything in recruiting if these guys are really this bad at it. Plus there wont be a 2020 season.
2) Jimmy gets disgusted enough to clear out his staff and make some flash hires. This isn't happening either. He doesn't seem to have any contacts or pull to make big time hires.
TLDR...FUCK
I don't see the issue with firing Gregory today. It's not like he has any recruits that will leave because of it. You reading this, Jimmy? What's the holdup?
Petersen was the main draw for elite kids and their families and also the best recruiter/closer. Is this surprising to anyone?
I thought Lake could jeep it going. He blew it. Fire the university.
Someone posted about how this one class of diamonds shouldn't hurt the roster too bad as long as it's a one time thing. I agree, but there are two ways this could turn around before the damage starts:
1) A big 2020 season...this would help for sure but not seal anything in recruiting if these guys are really this bad at it. Plus there wont be a 2020 season.
2) Jimmy gets disgusted enough to clear out his staff and make some flash hires. This isn't happening either. He doesn't seem to have any contacts or pull to make big time hires.
TLDR...FUCK
I don't see the issue with firing Gregory today. It's not like he has any recruits that will leave because of it. You reading this, Jimmy? What's the holdup?
Same number of recruits he had 6 months ago when Lake gave him an extension.
Well so far we have the Sherlock Holmes class of undiscovered value... who knew that this would’ve been the direction that we would go... I didn’t guess that our brand would suffer, and I still feel that when kids can get on campus and talk to our team that we will close strong
So far though you need your Sherlock Holmes outfit to find the unseen value in our class of recruits
Well so far we have the Sherlock Holmes class of undiscovered value... who knew that this would’ve been the direction that we would go... I didn’t guess that our brand would suffer, and I still feel that when kids can get on campus and talk to our team that we will close strong
So far though you need your Sherlock Holmes outfit to find the unseen value in our class of recruits
Literally 95% of this bored bought into the narrative that Petersen was a cancer to recruiting and didnt understand it despite the fact that our classes were getting better and better every year.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
This is a classic bananasnblondes hindsight/straw man post.
Nobody thought CP was a cancer to recruiting. He was an unreal closer and brought us to a level of recruiting vis a vis UCLA, USC, Notre Dame, etc that most of us had never seen at UW. And after his initial staff of loyalists every subsequent position coach hire was clearly made with recruiting in mind.
At the same time his stubbornness about his process led to some specific critiques about things like taking part of the spring off, not going after more questionable grades/character kids, and retaining a couple coaches that couldn’t or didn’t recruit to the level of the rest of the program.
The framing for that criticism was never that CP couldn’t recruit but always that if two or three things could be changed we could get to even the next level.
Of course CP’s stubbornness about his process is also what brought him a lot of success. Nobody is perfect.
Literally 95% of this bored bought into the narrative that Petersen was a cancer to recruiting and didnt understand it despite the fact that our classes were getting better and better every year.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
This is a classic bananasnblondes hindsight/straw man post.
Nobody thought CP was a cancer to recruiting. He was an unreal closer and brought us to a level of recruiting vis a vis UCLA, USC, Notre Dame, etc that most of us had never seen at UW. And after his initial staff of loyalists every subsequent position coach hire was clearly made with recruiting in mind.
At the same time his stubbornness about his process led to some specific critiques about things like taking part of the spring off, not going after more questionable grades/character kids, and retaining a couple coaches that couldn’t or didn’t recruit to the level of the rest of the program.
The framing for that criticism was never that CP couldn’t recruit but always that if two or three things could be changed we could get to even the next level.
Of course CP’s stubbornness about his process is also what brought him a lot of success. Nobody is perfect.
Only thing I blame Pete for is shitty offensive plan, Pease, KB, Gregory. Everything else was great.
I think what everyone’s problem is that your lives don’t suck as bad as mine. When everything else sucks soooo much more, this is just another small displeasure. So here are my tips to everyone.
1. Have a child out of wedlock with a crazy bitch (who is tiny and skinny at the time). 2. Get talked into moving in with said crazy bitch to “help raise our child while she attends school” which she never did. 3. Spend almost a yr in hell and separate after that. 4. Continue to bone crazy bitch while not together and get her pregnant. 5. Move back I together. 6. Continue to hate life and life decisions but continue to bone. 7. Get pregnant again with twins. 8. Realize you’re fucked either way. 9. Finally marry TOF after 12 yrs who is now twice the women she was at #1. 10. Give up on life and turn to HCH.
See, so in the bigger scheme of things udubs recruiting really isn’t that bad.
Chins up pups.
So really, please send me bleach and razors. You should all also consider killing yourselves. It’ll never get better and will only get worse.
Jesus, those are some poor life choices. I'm sorry, friend.
rel="chuck">Petersen was the main draw for elite kids and their families and also the best recruiter/closer. Is this surprising to anyone?
I thought Lake could jeep it going. He blew it. Fire the university.
Someone posted about how this one class of diamonds shouldn't hurt the roster too bad as long as it's a one time thing. I agree, but there are two ways this could turn around before the damage starts:
1) A big 2020 season...this would help for sure but not seal anything in recruiting if these guys are really this bad at it. Plus there wont be a 2020 season.
2) Jimmy gets disgusted enough to clear out his staff and make some flash hires. This isn't happening either. He doesn't seem to have any contacts or pull to make big time hires.
TLDR...FUCK
Literally 95% of this bored bought into the narrative that Petersen was a cancer to recruiting and didnt understand it despite the fact that our classes were getting better and better every year.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
I just got sick of losing NY6 gaymes. At this point I'd be happy to lose the Kraft Diarrhea Cheese Bowel. This thing is complete dumpster fire.
She played the cards she was dealt. With Pete’s blessing every AD in the country (and every one of us in our dads’ basements) snap hires Jimmy.
The real test is whether she can make the tough call and fire him promptly as soon as it is clear things aren’t working out.
Terrible take
There was a lot of reason to be skeptical when she was hired as the AD ... but when her initial actions were to get out of the way and let Pete be Pete and give him whatever he needed ... it's hard to completely bitch about her job.
However, since then, she's hired Jody Wynn (disaster), Mike Hopkins (jury is still out), and Jimmy Lake (the start isn't off to a good start). On top of that, she's seen a pretty bad scandal going on within the cheer/spirit squad and essentially been devoid of leadership throughout COVID in terms of what the future budget of the Athletic Department looks like (particularly compared to peer schools). That's just hitting at the low hanging fruit.
Jen's slowly proving that her best skill is keeping her mouth shut and doing the bare minimum. When it comes to actually displaying forward-thinking leadership, she's a questionable commodity at this point. And that's being kind.
Literally 95% of this bored bought into the narrative that Petersen was a cancer to recruiting and didnt understand it despite the fact that our classes were getting better and better every year.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
This is a classic bananasnblondes hindsight/straw man post.
Nobody thought CP was a cancer to recruiting. He was an unreal closer and brought us to a level of recruiting vis a vis UCLA, USC, Notre Dame, etc that most of us had never seen at UW. And after his initial staff of loyalists every subsequent position coach hire was clearly made with recruiting in mind.
At the same time his stubbornness about his process led to some specific critiques about things like taking part of the spring off, not going after more questionable grades/character kids, and retaining a couple coaches that couldn’t or didn’t recruit to the level of the rest of the program.
The framing for that criticism was never that CP couldn’t recruit but always that if two or three things could be changed we could get to even the next level.
Of course CP’s stubbornness about his process is also what brought him a lot of success. Nobody is perfect.
Only thing I blame Pete for is shitty offensive plan, Pease, KB, Gregory. Everything else was great.
I would add he failed to get the team motivated. Most noticable in big games.
She played the cards she was dealt. With Pete’s blessing every AD in the country (and every one of us in our dads’ basements) snap hires Jimmy.
The real test is whether she can make the tough call and fire him promptly as soon as it is clear things aren’t working out.
Terrible take
There was a lot of reason to be skeptical when she was hired as the AD ... but when her initial actions were to get out of the way and let Pete be Pete and give him whatever he needed ... it's hard to completely bitch about her job.
However, since then, she's hired Jody Wynn (disaster), Mike Hopkins (jury is still out), and Jimmy Lake (the start isn't off to a good start). On top of that, she's seen a pretty bad scandal going on within the cheer/spirit squad and essentially been devoid of leadership throughout COVID in terms of what the future budget of the Athletic Department looks like (particularly compared to peer schools). That's just hitting at the low hanging fruit.
Jen's slowly proving that her best skill is keeping her mouth shut and doing the bare minimum. When it comes to actually displaying forward-thinking leadership, she's a questionable commodity at this point. And that's being kind.
She fired that ass in two shakes of a dog's tail after it became known. That is decisve leadership: it is not easy to dismiss state employee's (remember, RN won his wrongful termination suit for his firing). I think many ADs would have suspended him pending an investigation to cover their ass.
What could she have done differently? Micromanage every decision in the department? How do you think that would affect employee morale?
No credit for adidas? No credit for fixing the budget shortfall she inherited from Woodward without compromising coaching payroll?
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Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
Yep. All one had to do though was to look at the relative success of Pete in recruiting compared to Sark. Sark surrounded himself with recruiters (Sirmon, Tosh, Heyward) and made a big, public show of his emphasis on it. In five years he never came close to the level that Pete's very different staff achieved with Petersen expressing his disdain for the process the entire time.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
I think the narrative was more He couldn’t get the fast fast twitch LA type kids. Which was true. Pete was boring white with virtues and vision for life. That was to slow for many.
We figured Jimmy would be just the guy, for obvious reasons, to help land Troy, Denzel, Ortiz, etc. He was going to bring us hype without the faggyness and be able to draw attention of the fan boys loving getting their tip dipped in grellow by cristoballz. The right combo and virtues, vision, fast and slow twitch. We also believed that the DB hires would cement this.
20/20 right.
The same fuckery translated into playing time, game management and wins/loses will have us all ballzing backwards wishing for Pete’s return. Maybe even Race will miss him then...?
So far though you need your Sherlock Holmes outfit to find the unseen value in our class of recruits
Nobody thought CP was a cancer to recruiting. He was an unreal closer and brought us to a level of recruiting vis a vis UCLA, USC, Notre Dame, etc that most of us had never seen at UW. And after his initial staff of loyalists every subsequent position coach hire was clearly made with recruiting in mind.
At the same time his stubbornness about his process led to some specific critiques about things like taking part of the spring off, not going after more questionable grades/character kids, and retaining a couple coaches that couldn’t or didn’t recruit to the level of the rest of the program.
The framing for that criticism was never that CP couldn’t recruit but always that if two or three things could be changed we could get to even the next level.
Of course CP’s stubbornness about his process is also what brought him a lot of success. Nobody is perfect.
She played the cards she was dealt. With Pete’s blessing every AD in the country (and every one of us in our dads’ basements) snap hires Jimmy.
The real test is whether she can make the tough call and fire him promptly as soon as it is clear things aren’t working out.
Ironically, the class we are likely to end up with this year (with an AA head coach, who was supposedly the recruiting juggernaut that Pete's stubbornness was holding back) is the absolute dictionary definition of what everyone thought "the Pete class" was
I just got sick of losing NY6 gaymes. At this point I'd be happy to lose the Kraft Diarrhea Cheese Bowel. This thing is complete dumpster fire.
There was a lot of reason to be skeptical when she was hired as the AD ... but when her initial actions were to get out of the way and let Pete be Pete and give him whatever he needed ... it's hard to completely bitch about her job.
However, since then, she's hired Jody Wynn (disaster), Mike Hopkins (jury is still out), and Jimmy Lake (the start isn't off to a good start). On top of that, she's seen a pretty bad scandal going on within the cheer/spirit squad and essentially been devoid of leadership throughout COVID in terms of what the future budget of the Athletic Department looks like (particularly compared to peer schools). That's just hitting at the low hanging fruit.
Jen's slowly proving that her best skill is keeping her mouth shut and doing the bare minimum. When it comes to actually displaying forward-thinking leadership, she's a questionable commodity at this point. And that's being kind.
What could she have done differently? Micromanage every decision in the department? How do you think that would affect employee morale?
No credit for adidas? No credit for fixing the budget shortfall she inherited from Woodward without compromising coaching payroll?