Official 2021 class panic/Lake is clueless thread
Let's back track 6 months ago. The overall sentiment from the board was that Petersen didn't take recruiting seriously enough and it's a positive that he's stepping down and and getting replaced by a young, hot shot recruiter. The Lake era started off reasonably well - he brought Covington back into the fold, held onto the entire '20 class, and sent Pete off with a win in the Vegas bowl. What's happened since then?
-He hires Terrence Brown as assistant DB coach and promotes Will Harris to primary DB coach. Both have very little prior success in recruiting.
-Fires Bush and replaces him with an assistant RB coach
-Doesn't renew Paopao's contract and promotes Derham Cato, who spent the last 3 years as an analyst on the staff after getting fired from the OC job for a Davidson team that averaged 12ppg
-Strikes out on adding anyone to the class in the Feb signing period. This should have been the first red flag, Petersen added Irvin, Tuli, and Puka the last couple classes in Feb.
-Not only retains Gregory and KB but extends them a year and gives them raises
-Hosts a ton of '21 recruits and makes a halftime speech during the UW/UO bball game to pump up recruiting, UW then proceeds to blow a double digit lead and lose at home. Rumors are players felt Lake was doing a lame impersonation of the Ducks' recruiting strategies.
-Gets shit pushed in by Oregon on every single recruit they went head to head with. Bram Walden, Jonah Miller, Moliki Matavao, Darren Barkins, Troy Franklin, Xavier Worthy, Terrence Ferguson, Jaylin Davies. Basically all of these losses are attributed to the staff decisions he made.
The good news is we're over 6 months from signing day and still got a season to play. A lot of kids have committed to schools without setting foot on campus so an unprecedented wave of decommits is expected this fall. Still, it's a lot easier to hold onto commits than flipping kids from other schools and Lake sabotaged this class by the uninspired and lazy hires he made. I'll LIPO but Lake has set the margin for error this season to close to 0 if he wants to salvage what was supposed to be the best class in school history.
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Even with the decommit wave that is coming, my guess is it's going to be 1 out of every 5 or six at best. No matter how optimistic or wearing the purple glasses people are banking on that is fools gold.insinceredawg said:Starting a new thread to consolidate all the panic and Lake shit talking since it's spread across multiple threads.
Let's back track 6 months ago. The overall sentiment from the board was that Petersen didn't take recruiting seriously enough and it's a positive that he's stepping down and and getting replaced by a young, hot shot recruiter. The Lake era started off reasonably well - he brought Covington back into the fold, held onto the entire '20 class, and sent Pete off with a win in the Vegas bowl. What's happened since then?
-He hires Terrence Brown as assistant DB coach and promotes Will Harris to primary DB coach. Both have very little prior success in recruiting.
-Fires Bush and replaces him with an assistant RB coach
-Doesn't renew Paopao's contract and promotes Derham Cato, who spent the last 3 years as an analyst on the staff after getting fired from the OC job for a Davidson team that averaged 12ppg
-Strikes out on adding anyone to the class in the Feb signing period. This should have been the first red flag, Petersen added Irvin, Tuli, and Puka the last couple classes in Feb.
-Not only retains Gregory and KB but extends them a year and gives them raises
-Hosts a ton of '21 recruits and makes a halftime speech during the UW/UO bball game to pump up recruiting, UW then proceeds to blow a double digit lead and lose at home. Rumors are players felt Lake was doing a lame impersonation of the Ducks' recruiting strategies.
-Gets shit pushed in by Oregon on every single recruit they went head to head with. Bram Walden, Jonah Miller, Moliki Matavao, Darren Barkins, Troy Franklin, Xavier Worthy, Terrence Ferguson, Jaylin Davies. Basically all of these losses are attributed to the staff decisions he made.
The good news is we're over 6 months from signing day and still got a season to play. A lot of kids have committed to schools without setting foot on campus so an unprecedented wave of decommits is expected this fall. Still, it's a lot easier to hold onto commits than flipping kids from other schools and Lake sabotaged this class by the uninspired and lazy hires he made. I'll LIPO but Lake has set the margin for error this season to close to 0 if he wants to salvage what was supposed to be the best class in school history.
All we can do is LIPO, but his Margin for Error isn't close to zero, it is zero. In poker he has a 7/8 and the first two cards turn up Queen two. He needs last three cards to be 5/6/9
He was with Pete alot of years to be making what appears to be very rookie mistakes with the staff he hired.
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I heard a rumor that there was once great debate on whether we might be better without Jimmy Lake ...
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In all seriousness ... I think Jimmy has a number of elements that you want in a head coach
I also don’t know if he was quite ready to be a head coach ... we are seeing that in the decisions he has made filling out his staff and the reality being that those decisions are because he likely doesn’t have a great network of coaches to pull from and established coaches viewed him as a risk
When Jimmy got the job he said a lot of things that sounded really good ...
To date there has been little action and substance behind what he has done
He’s got a team capable of doing really good things on the field ...
But if he comes in at like 7-5 or 8-4 ... I think it’s fair to say that the red flags are going to be out in abundance -
If he wins 7 with this team it will reek of Lambo winning 7 in 93, 94 and 95. 9 should be the floor, too much talent on hand for less. Jim Lakebo anyone?Tequilla said:In all seriousness ... I think Jimmy has a number of elements that you want in a head coach
I also don’t know if he was quite ready to be a head coach ... we are seeing that in the decisions he has made filling out his staff and the reality being that those decisions are because he likely doesn’t have a great network of coaches to pull from and established coaches viewed him as a risk
When Jimmy got the job he said a lot of things that sounded really good ...
To date there has been little action and substance behind what he has done
He’s got a team capable of doing really good things on the field ...
But if he comes in at like 7-5 or 8-4 ... I think it’s fair to say that the red flags are going to be out in abundance -
7-2 is the minimum for the conference record. 5 games are gimmes, gotta at least split the other 4.theknowledge said:
If he wins 7 with this team it will reek of Lambo winning 7 in 93, 94 and 95. 9 should be the floor, too much talent on hand for less. Jim Lakebo anyone?Tequilla said:In all seriousness ... I think Jimmy has a number of elements that you want in a head coach
I also don’t know if he was quite ready to be a head coach ... we are seeing that in the decisions he has made filling out his staff and the reality being that those decisions are because he likely doesn’t have a great network of coaches to pull from and established coaches viewed him as a risk
When Jimmy got the job he said a lot of things that sounded really good ...
To date there has been little action and substance behind what he has done
He’s got a team capable of doing really good things on the field ...
But if he comes in at like 7-5 or 8-4 ... I think it’s fair to say that the red flags are going to be out in abundance
@Oregon - Limited homefield advantage. Oregon will still be breaking in a new offense and QB. Will be a defensive struggle. Toss up game.
OSU - Win or GTFO
@ Utah - Limited homefield advantage. New QB, rebuilding defense, and possibly a new DC. Toss up game.
Arizona - Win or GTFO
@ Cal - Toss up game
Stanford - Win or GTFO
@USC - Will be an underdog but it's still Clay Helton
Colorado - Win or GTFO
@WSU - Win or GTFO
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I feel a little doogin here but I can get down with this. 7-2, pushing khaki pants shit in and a bowl victory will save this class.insinceredawg said:
7-2 is the minimum for the conference record. 5 games are gimmes, gotta at least split the other 4.theknowledge said:
If he wins 7 with this team it will reek of Lambo winning 7 in 93, 94 and 95. 9 should be the floor, too much talent on hand for less. Jim Lakebo anyone?Tequilla said:In all seriousness ... I think Jimmy has a number of elements that you want in a head coach
I also don’t know if he was quite ready to be a head coach ... we are seeing that in the decisions he has made filling out his staff and the reality being that those decisions are because he likely doesn’t have a great network of coaches to pull from and established coaches viewed him as a risk
When Jimmy got the job he said a lot of things that sounded really good ...
To date there has been little action and substance behind what he has done
He’s got a team capable of doing really good things on the field ...
But if he comes in at like 7-5 or 8-4 ... I think it’s fair to say that the red flags are going to be out in abundance
@Oregon - Limited homefield advantage. Oregon will still be breaking in a new offense and QB. Will be a defensive struggle. Toss up game.
OSU - Win or GTFO
@ Utah - Limited homefield advantage. New QB, rebuilding defense, and possibly a new DC. Toss up game.
Arizona - Win or GTFO
@ Cal - Toss up game
Stanford - Win or GTFO
@USC - Will be an underdog but it's still Clay Helton
Colorado - Win or GTFO
@WSU - Win or GTFO
Now that I’m reading what I wrote i feel that this is heavy doogin and kinda want to click the fuck off button in myself. -
You need to give James Reservoir more tim. Helfrich hired people that had never been coordinators into coordinator roles. James doesn't do that. He hires people who previously sucked at coordinating into those roles. It's looking like he's an equally lazy recruiter, but you can't win them all.insinceredawg said:Starting a new thread to consolidate all the panic and Lake shit talking since it's spread across multiple threads.
Let's back track 6 months ago. The overall sentiment from the board was that Petersen didn't take recruiting seriously enough and it's a positive that he's stepping down and and getting replaced by a young, hot shot recruiter. The Lake era started off reasonably well - he brought Covington back into the fold, held onto the entire '20 class, and sent Pete off with a win in the Vegas bowl. What's happened since then?
-He hires Terrence Brown as assistant DB coach and promotes Will Harris to primary DB coach. Both have very little prior success in recruiting.
-Fires Bush and replaces him with an assistant RB coach
-Doesn't renew Paopao's contract and promotes Derham Cato, who spent the last 3 years as an analyst on the staff after getting fired from the OC job for a Davidson team that averaged 12ppg
-Strikes out on adding anyone to the class in the Feb signing period. This should have been the first red flag, Petersen added Irvin, Tuli, and Puka the last couple classes in Feb.
-Not only retains Gregory and KB but extends them a year and gives them raises
-Hosts a ton of '21 recruits and makes a halftime speech during the UW/UO bball game to pump up recruiting, UW then proceeds to blow a double digit lead and lose at home. Rumors are players felt Lake was doing a lame impersonation of the Ducks' recruiting strategies.
-Gets shit pushed in by Oregon on every single recruit they went head to head with. Bram Walden, Jonah Miller, Moliki Matavao, Darren Barkins, Troy Franklin, Xavier Worthy, Terrence Ferguson, Jaylin Davies. Basically all of these losses are attributed to the staff decisions he made.
The good news is we're over 6 months from signing day and still got a season to play. A lot of kids have committed to schools without setting foot on campus so an unprecedented wave of decommits is expected this fall. Still, it's a lot easier to hold onto commits than flipping kids from other schools and Lake sabotaged this class by the uninspired and lazy hires he made. I'll LIPO but Lake has set the margin for error this season to close to 0 if he wants to salvage what was supposed to be the best class in school history.
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Sark came in and talked a bunch if shit and everyone ate that up as well, so just talking doesn’t win games, or indicate that the program is heading in the right direction.
Lots of hand wringing about recruiting and that it will magically turn around once uw gets recruits to visit. I believe that Seattle hosted a large 7 vs 7 tourney in January. Did he fuck up and not bring in any of those kids? Or did he and got nothing? Not sure which would be worse.
I also hear talk about how great Huard is. But something seems off. He plays with an elite group, but very few if any seem to want to play college ball with him. Maybe he is part of the problem. I don’t have any information to support that. But it could explain why local recruiting hasn’t gone as hoped.
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On the latest Doogman pod, Ektard has figured out why Oregon has been kicking our ass this year in recruiting. It's not because no one wants to play in John Donovan's offense, it's not because Jimmy hired a bunch of deadbeat recruiters, nope it's all because of Cooper Petagna. The recruiting analyst who Lake let go and replaced with Justin Glenn. His theory is Cooper knows the ins and outs of the OKG/B4L strategy and has brought those insights to Eugene.
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It makes sense if you don't think about it.insinceredawg said:On the latest Doogman pod, Ektard has figured out why Oregon has been kicking our ass this year in recruiting. It's not because no one wants to play in John Donovan's offense, it's not because Jimmy hired a bunch of deadbeat recruiters, nope it's all because of Cooper Petagna. The recruiting analyst who Lake let go and replaced with Justin Glenn. His theory is Cooper knows the ins and outs of the OKG/B4L strategy and has brought those insights to Eugene.
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Doesn’t explains Oregons recruiting success for that past 3 cycles, but it may explain uw’s sudden change.
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But OKGs don’t decommit...insinceredawg said:On the latest Doogman pod, Ektard has figured out why Oregon has been kicking our ass this year in recruiting. It's not because no one wants to play in John Donovan's offense, it's not because Jimmy hired a bunch of deadbeat recruiters, nope it's all because of Cooper Petagna. The recruiting analyst who Lake let go and replaced with Justin Glenn. His theory is Cooper knows the ins and outs of the OKG/B4L strategy and has brought those insights to Eugene.
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https://komonews.com/news/local/uw-permanently-removes-satact-requirement-for-incoming-students
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Tequilla said:
I heard a rumor that there was once great debate on whether we might be better without Jimmy Lake ...
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We’ve been better if you look at a 3 yr average... then this yr. completely plungered.dOgmaster said:Doesn’t explains Oregons recruiting success for that past 3 cycles, but it may explain uw’s sudden change.
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We've been saying these things for four monthsTequilla said:In all seriousness ... I think Jimmy has a number of elements that you want in a head coach
I also don’t know if he was quite ready to be a head coach ... we are seeing that in the decisions he has made filling out his staff and the reality being that those decisions are because he likely doesn’t have a great network of coaches to pull from and established coaches viewed him as a risk
When Jimmy got the job he said a lot of things that sounded really good ...
To date there has been little action and substance behind what he has done
He’s got a team capable of doing really good things on the field ...
But if he comes in at like 7-5 or 8-4 ... I think it’s fair to say that the red flags are going to be out in abundance -
God, just think if Kellen Moore became our OC. Whoregon couldn’t negatively recruit against him and his system. Plus, based on his age and college football success, he could probably recruit a bit, too.
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It actually doesn'tdOgmaster said:Doesn’t explains Oregons recruiting success for that past 3 cycles, but it may explain uw’s sudden change.
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Is the "James Reservoir " dig an Oregon fanbase thing? Or just you?Mosster47 said:
You need to give James Reservoir more tim. Helfrich hired people that had never been coordinators into coordinator roles. James doesn't do that. He hires people who previously sucked at coordinating into those roles. It's looking like he's an equally lazy recruiter, but you can't win them all.insinceredawg said:Starting a new thread to consolidate all the panic and Lake shit talking since it's spread across multiple threads.
Let's back track 6 months ago. The overall sentiment from the board was that Petersen didn't take recruiting seriously enough and it's a positive that he's stepping down and and getting replaced by a young, hot shot recruiter. The Lake era started off reasonably well - he brought Covington back into the fold, held onto the entire '20 class, and sent Pete off with a win in the Vegas bowl. What's happened since then?
-He hires Terrence Brown as assistant DB coach and promotes Will Harris to primary DB coach. Both have very little prior success in recruiting.
-Fires Bush and replaces him with an assistant RB coach
-Doesn't renew Paopao's contract and promotes Derham Cato, who spent the last 3 years as an analyst on the staff after getting fired from the OC job for a Davidson team that averaged 12ppg
-Strikes out on adding anyone to the class in the Feb signing period. This should have been the first red flag, Petersen added Irvin, Tuli, and Puka the last couple classes in Feb.
-Not only retains Gregory and KB but extends them a year and gives them raises
-Hosts a ton of '21 recruits and makes a halftime speech during the UW/UO bball game to pump up recruiting, UW then proceeds to blow a double digit lead and lose at home. Rumors are players felt Lake was doing a lame impersonation of the Ducks' recruiting strategies.
-Gets shit pushed in by Oregon on every single recruit they went head to head with. Bram Walden, Jonah Miller, Moliki Matavao, Darren Barkins, Troy Franklin, Xavier Worthy, Terrence Ferguson, Jaylin Davies. Basically all of these losses are attributed to the staff decisions he made.
The good news is we're over 6 months from signing day and still got a season to play. A lot of kids have committed to schools without setting foot on campus so an unprecedented wave of decommits is expected this fall. Still, it's a lot easier to hold onto commits than flipping kids from other schools and Lake sabotaged this class by the uninspired and lazy hires he made. I'll LIPO but Lake has set the margin for error this season to close to 0 if he wants to salvage what was supposed to be the best class in school history.
LIPO.
It ain't much of a dig. It makes me embarrased for you.
Why not "Jimmy Puddles," "Jimmy Fake", or "Bad Choice Jim?"
Insult him or dont. GTFO of here with that "James Reservoir" milquetoast bullshit. -
Yep Petagna was hardly herebananasnblondes said:
It actually doesn'tdOgmaster said:Doesn’t explains Oregons recruiting success for that past 3 cycles, but it may explain uw’s sudden change.
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Hopefully this isn't just the Latu announcement
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lol knowing our luck it isinsinceredawg said:Hopefully this isn't just the Latu announcement
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Jimmy Puddles would actually be great if it weren’t for one minor detail.Ballz_Mom said:
Is the "James Reservoir " dig an Oregon fanbase thing? Or just you?Mosster47 said:
You need to give James Reservoir more tim. Helfrich hired people that had never been coordinators into coordinator roles. James doesn't do that. He hires people who previously sucked at coordinating into those roles. It's looking like he's an equally lazy recruiter, but you can't win them all.insinceredawg said:Starting a new thread to consolidate all the panic and Lake shit talking since it's spread across multiple threads.
Let's back track 6 months ago. The overall sentiment from the board was that Petersen didn't take recruiting seriously enough and it's a positive that he's stepping down and and getting replaced by a young, hot shot recruiter. The Lake era started off reasonably well - he brought Covington back into the fold, held onto the entire '20 class, and sent Pete off with a win in the Vegas bowl. What's happened since then?
-He hires Terrence Brown as assistant DB coach and promotes Will Harris to primary DB coach. Both have very little prior success in recruiting.
-Fires Bush and replaces him with an assistant RB coach
-Doesn't renew Paopao's contract and promotes Derham Cato, who spent the last 3 years as an analyst on the staff after getting fired from the OC job for a Davidson team that averaged 12ppg
-Strikes out on adding anyone to the class in the Feb signing period. This should have been the first red flag, Petersen added Irvin, Tuli, and Puka the last couple classes in Feb.
-Not only retains Gregory and KB but extends them a year and gives them raises
-Hosts a ton of '21 recruits and makes a halftime speech during the UW/UO bball game to pump up recruiting, UW then proceeds to blow a double digit lead and lose at home. Rumors are players felt Lake was doing a lame impersonation of the Ducks' recruiting strategies.
-Gets shit pushed in by Oregon on every single recruit they went head to head with. Bram Walden, Jonah Miller, Moliki Matavao, Darren Barkins, Troy Franklin, Xavier Worthy, Terrence Ferguson, Jaylin Davies. Basically all of these losses are attributed to the staff decisions he made.
The good news is we're over 6 months from signing day and still got a season to play. A lot of kids have committed to schools without setting foot on campus so an unprecedented wave of decommits is expected this fall. Still, it's a lot easier to hold onto commits than flipping kids from other schools and Lake sabotaged this class by the uninspired and lazy hires he made. I'll LIPO but Lake has set the margin for error this season to close to 0 if he wants to salvage what was supposed to be the best class in school history.
LIPO.
It ain't much of a dig. It makes me embarrased for you.
Why not "Jimmy Puddles," "Jimmy Fake", or "Bad Choice Jim?"
Insult him or dont. GTFO of here with that "James Reservoir" milquetoast bullshit.
