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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,602 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    So do we? need cops, or do we? not need cops? Sounds like Minneapolis police may go on strike.

    They should. Every law enforcement officer in the country should.

    They won't because they're not wired that way. But the new young ones might.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club

    PM to good or bad people on both sides: Vigilantism is dumb. Don't do it.

    Yes. Leave it up to the police. That's the conundrum. We should leave it up to the police. But when they don't or aren't allowed to take care of a problem, sometimes someone else will try to take care of it.
    It's very simple. Protect yourself and property, e.g., one's rights. Don't interfere with anyone else's rights. I personally detest protesting of any stripe, but I defend people's right to do so. If this shit strays into pre-emptive action like blocking people from coming into town or whatever, problems happen. Sitting in your front lawn is almost certainly going to be enough.
    And what about one's neighbors'? My friends business was just destroyed. My other friend's home was threatened this week and they are now leaving their cars at my house because they don't want them torched or flipped. Do I have to wait until the mob comes to my house or can I organize for defense with these people?

    I see your point don't twist, but it's not as clear cut and dry out here in the city sprawl of California.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    So do we? need cops, or do we? not need cops? Sounds like Minneapolis police may go on strike.

    They should. Every law enforcement officer in the country should.

    They won't because they're not wired that way. But the new young ones might.
    The Buffalo Emergency Response Team all resigned today. Still all members of the Buffalo PD but they said "fuck that shit" after the old man getting knocked down controversy.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club

    So do we? need cops, or do we? not need cops? Sounds like Minneapolis police may go on strike.

    Isn't that the premise for Robocop 2?

    *fingers crossed
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,602 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    So do we? need cops, or do we? not need cops? Sounds like Minneapolis police may go on strike.

    They should. Every law enforcement officer in the country should.

    They won't because they're not wired that way. But the new young ones might.
    The Buffalo Emergency Response Team all resigned today. Still all members of the Buffalo PD but they said "fuck that shit" after the old man getting knocked down controversy.

    That shouldn't have happened but I can tell you police don't allow their personal space to be invaded. But they should have seen him for the crazy old guy he was.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    PM to good or bad people on both sides: Vigilantism is dumb. Don't do it.

    Yes. Leave it up to the police. That's the conundrum. We should leave it up to the police. But when they don't or aren't allowed to take care of a problem, sometimes someone else will try to take care of it.
    It's very simple. Protect yourself and property, e.g., one's rights. Don't interfere with anyone else's rights. I personally detest protesting of any stripe, but I defend people's right to do so. If this shit strays into pre-emptive action like blocking people from coming into town or whatever, problems happen. Sitting in your front lawn is almost certainly going to be enough.
    And what about one's neighbors'? My friends business was just destroyed. My other friend's home was threatened this week and they are now leaving their cars at my house because they don't want them torched or flipped. Do I have to wait until the mob comes to my house or can I organize for defense with these people?

    I see your point don't twist, but it's not as clear cut and dry out here in the city sprawl of California.
    Posse up, pod.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    So do we? need cops, or do we? not need cops? Sounds like Minneapolis police may go on strike.

    They should. Every law enforcement officer in the country should.

    They won't because they're not wired that way. But the new young ones might.
    The Buffalo Emergency Response Team all resigned today. Still all members of the Buffalo PD but they said "fuck that shit" after the old man getting knocked down controversy.

    That shouldn't have happened but I can tell you police don't allow their personal space to be invaded. But they should have seen him for the crazy old guy he was.
    I don't disagree. It wouldn't have hurt if the cop dude took one step to the left instead of colliding with him but if you're going to play on the freeway, I don't have much sympathy if you get run over by a semi-truck.

    Some shit is just common sense.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,602 Standard Supporter
    Fatigue probably didn't help. Anytime trouble like this comes police switch to 12 hrs on and 12 off. No days off until it's over. Real bad? 16 hour shifts.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,844 Swaye's Wigwam
    I always check @insecuredawg sources because he is always fare and balanced.

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