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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Anyone else watch this hearing this morning? There wasn't a single Rat on the committee who showed even the smallest amount of interest in this, all of their questions were designed to deflect and prop up investigation. Booker spent his time complaining about the fact that they were even holding the hearing.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Just like with Mueller we now find out that Rosenstein had no real interest in determining whether the Dossier, which we now know was the lynch pin for securing the FISA warrants was factual or who paid for it.

    The entire fucking Mueller investigation was supposed to be about looking into Russian interference in our election and now we know that the Dossier, which was almost certainly Russian disinformation, was of no interest to either Rosenstein or Mueller.

    Nobody was ever prosecuted for anything related to colluding with the Russians and the investigation never even bothered to look into who paid for Russian disinformation that was used to launch the investigation and not a single Rat sitting on that committee has any interest in looking into any of these questions.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,523 Founders Club
    It's a sham and a mockery

    Some of us knew that
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    It's a sham and a mockery

    Some of us knew that

    Rosenstein just relied upon what he was told. It was a reauthorization so he never bothered to look into the accuracy of the initial application. And since he now hides behind the claim that nobody informed him of the problems with the Dossier, or any of the other initial documents, he signed off on renewing the warrants.

    The FBI and DOJ knew for at least 6 months prior that the Dossier was crap but because nobody told Rod, it was okay for him to sign off on renewing the warrants.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,523 Founders Club
    McCabe is now calling Rosenstein a liar

    Rats fighting
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    McCabe is now calling Rosenstein a liar

    Rats fighting

    Do CEOs who sign off on the company's financials get to hide behind "Nobody informed me of the problems with the numbers" defense when the SEC comes after them?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,281
    SFGbob said:

    McCabe is now calling Rosenstein a liar

    Rats fighting

    Do CEOs who sign off on the company's financials get to hide behind "Nobody informed me of the problems with the numbers" defense when the SEC comes after them?
    Mostly, no.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    McCabe is now calling Rosenstein a liar

    Rats fighting

    Do CEOs who sign off on the company's financials get to hide behind "Nobody informed me of the problems with the numbers" defense when the SEC comes after them?
    Mostly, no.
    It was a rhetorical question but thanks.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,527 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    SFGbob said:

    McCabe is now calling Rosenstein a liar

    Rats fighting

    Do CEOs who sign off on the company's financials get to hide behind "Nobody informed me of the problems with the numbers" defense when the SEC comes after them?
    Mostly, no.
    Depends on whether controls have been circumvented and whether the CEO had knowledge.

    If a fraud was being perpetrated including collusion going undetected at lower levels, he'd have a shot. If he had knowledge, maybe depending on what the mitigation performed was. Otherwise, SOX is not kind to the ignorant.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    McCabe is now calling Rosenstein a liar

    Rats fighting

    Do CEOs who sign off on the company's financials get to hide behind "Nobody informed me of the problems with the numbers" defense when the SEC comes after them?
    Mostly, no.
    Depends on whether controls have been circumvented and whether the CEO had knowledge.

    If a fraud was being perpetrated including collusion going undetected at lower levels, he'd have a shot. If he had knowledge, maybe depending on what the mitigation performed was. Otherwise, SOX is not kind to the ignorant.

    What about if he says that he never bothered to read all of the financial reports and he never talked to the CFO about the fact that they knew the numbers were crap 6 months earlier?