Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
Joe sought the ouster of a corrupt prosecutor, in keeping with US policy and the wishes of our allies. Quite the scandal.
On the call Poroshenko said they had nothing on the prosecutor. Biden and others wanted him gone for investigating Burisma. They got rid of the prosecutor, Biden and Obama give them $1 billion. Poroshenko is so corrupt he had to move from Ukraine in exile after being voted out of office.
What do your kids have to say about it?
Joe and Obama wanted him gone for something having to do with an investigation that was no longer open? Do tell.
As for corruption, Poroshenko can say what he wants. The guy was slow walking every corruption case before him, refusing to cooperate with our allies on corruption cases, and there was plenty of evidence of his own corruption.
But Burisma!
H didn’t listen to the call. The patented HHutzky Head Up His Butt Strut is still a thing. All talk, all made up ‘facts,’ as work comp legal hacks like him do every day.
Shokin was going after a corrupt Ukrainian company named Burisma for laundering aircraft money to corrupt officials all over the EU. Hunter Biden had a no-show board position for $83,000 a month. His Daddy says stop investigating or else no aid. Lionel pretends none of this was happening because to him, everything his liberal gods do is fine, even when it’s blatant corruption and even an illegal withholding of aid by said liberal gods.
But let’s spend six months impeaching Trump because of Adam Schiff’s fiction and a “whistle-blower” who nobody is allowed to interview or even talk about. My favorite is when Schiff said don’t say the name (Eric Ciaramella) of the whistleblower that Schiff claimed he didn’t know the identity, ever. Quite the logic there, eh.
Lie after lie after lie. It’s the Hutz way.
Shokin wasn't going after anyone. That was actually the complaint about him. (He wasn't even investigating Burisma.)
What's exciting about the call? We knew Joe wanted the Prosecutor fired. So did the POTUS, the UK and others.
I can't stop anyone from seeking to trade on his last name. If you want to impeach Hunter, go ahead.
He was investigating Burisma. The 2015 investigation was taken over by Shokin and was continuing into 2016. Is it your default to lie, Lionel? Wait, it’s been that way for the 5 years we’ve been communicating. Works for you in real life with your fellow liars, I suppose.
Nope. You couldn't actually be more wrong. One of the reasons he was ousted was because he had simply shit canned all criminal investigations. Those included the investigation into Burisma.
Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
Joe sought the ouster of a corrupt prosecutor, in keeping with US policy and the wishes of our allies. Quite the scandal.
On the call Poroshenko said they had nothing on the prosecutor. Biden and others wanted him gone for investigating Burisma. They got rid of the prosecutor, Biden and Obama give them $1 billion. Poroshenko is so corrupt he had to move from Ukraine in exile after being voted out of office.
What do your kids have to say about it?
Joe and Obama wanted him gone for something having to do with an investigation that was no longer open? Do tell.
As for corruption, Poroshenko can say what he wants. The guy was slow walking every corruption case before him, refusing to cooperate with our allies on corruption cases, and there was plenty of evidence of his own corruption.
Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
Joe sought the ouster of a corrupt prosecutor, in keeping with US policy and the wishes of our allies. Quite the scandal.
On the call Poroshenko said they had nothing on the prosecutor. Biden and others wanted him gone for investigating Burisma. They got rid of the prosecutor, Biden and Obama give them $1 billion. Poroshenko is so corrupt he had to move from Ukraine in exile after being voted out of office.
What do your kids have to say about it?
Joe and Obama wanted him gone for something having to do with an investigation that was no longer open? Do tell.
As for corruption, Poroshenko can say what he wants. The guy was slow walking every corruption case before him, refusing to cooperate with our allies on corruption cases, and there was plenty of evidence of his own corruption.
But Burisma!
The US, EU, IMF, anti-corruption crusaders etc wanted Shokin, aka the diamond prosecutor, gone cause while he shelved the Burisma investigation along with every other case involving Ukrainian oligarchs his prosecutors were getting rich off bribes of cash and diamonds. Looks like PDX, the most prolific liar in shed history is back to his same ole tricks...
Mr. GOP is almost as big a liar as HHutzky. Moreso, perhaps, because Scotty pretended to be a GOP on The Shed. Still waiting on links that say Shokin dropped investigations into Hunter Biden’s Burisma, so that’s why Biden wanted him out in the Quid Pro Joe.
Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
Joe sought the ouster of a corrupt prosecutor, in keeping with US policy and the wishes of our allies. Quite the scandal.
On the call Poroshenko said they had nothing on the prosecutor. Biden and others wanted him gone for investigating Burisma. They got rid of the prosecutor, Biden and Obama give them $1 billion. Poroshenko is so corrupt he had to move from Ukraine in exile after being voted out of office.
What do your kids have to say about it?
Joe and Obama wanted him gone for something having to do with an investigation that was no longer open? Do tell.
As for corruption, Poroshenko can say what he wants. The guy was slow walking every corruption case before him, refusing to cooperate with our allies on corruption cases, and there was plenty of evidence of his own corruption.
Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
Joe sought the ouster of a corrupt prosecutor, in keeping with US policy and the wishes of our allies. Quite the scandal.
On the call Poroshenko said they had nothing on the prosecutor. Biden and others wanted him gone for investigating Burisma. They got rid of the prosecutor, Biden and Obama give them $1 billion. Poroshenko is so corrupt he had to move from Ukraine in exile after being voted out of office.
What do your kids have to say about it?
Joe and Obama wanted him gone for something having to do with an investigation that was no longer open? Do tell.
As for corruption, Poroshenko can say what he wants. The guy was slow walking every corruption case before him, refusing to cooperate with our allies on corruption cases, and there was plenty of evidence of his own corruption.
But Burisma!
The US, EU, IMF, anti-corruption crusaders etc wanted Shokin, aka the diamond prosecutor, gone cause while he shelved the Burisma investigation along with every other case involving Ukrainian oligarchs his prosecutors were getting rich off bribes of cash and diamonds. Looks like PDX, the most prolific liar in shed history is back to his same ole tricks...
The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee already has acknowledged such an arrangement publicly. But the leaked audio revived criticism that Biden was engaged in a kind of quid-pro-quo, much like President Trump was accused -- during impeachment proceedings -- of linking U.S. aid to calls for Zelensky to probe Shokin's ouster. The audio indicates Poroshenko went along with Biden's plan but did not think Shokin was involved in wrongdoing.
Shokin purportedly has said under oath that he had launched a probe concerning Hunter Biden's role at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma Holdings when he was ousted. Hunter Biden held a lucrative post there, despite limited expertise, while his father handled Ukrainian policy as vice president. At the least, Ukrainian prosecutors had previously been investigating Burisma's founder. Biden's defenders have argued his intervention had nothing to do with Burisma and was focused on corruption concerns.
Zelensky said at a news conference in Ukraine that the contents of the leaked conversations, however, “might be perceived, qualified as high treason,” according to The Washington Post. Ukrainian prosecutors have said they are looking into sweeping "international corruption." Zelensky has tried to maintain good relations with the Trump administration, even as his 2019 discussions were at the core of the U.S. president's impeachment.
The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee already has acknowledged such an arrangement publicly. But the leaked audio revived criticism that Biden was engaged in a kind of quid-pro-quo, much like President Trump was accused -- during impeachment proceedings -- of linking U.S. aid to calls for Zelensky to probe Shokin's ouster. The audio indicates Poroshenko went along with Biden's plan but did not think Shokin was involved in wrongdoing.
Is there any chance at all the @GDS and @HHusky back up their bullshit lie that Biden wanted Shokin out because he wasn’t investigating Burisma enough? Are those two idiots, pathological liars, or both?
Shokin purportedly has said under oath that he had launched a probe concerning Hunter Biden's role at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma Holdings when he was ousted. Hunter Biden held a lucrative post there, despite limited expertise, while his father handled Ukrainian policy as vice president. At the least, Ukrainian prosecutors had previously been investigating Burisma's founder. Biden's defenders have argued his intervention had nothing to do with Burisma and was focused on corruption concerns.
Hey come on, @GDS and @HHusky say Shokin was fired for dropping the investigation. Scotty may be the dumbest poster outside of @HustlinOwl here, and also a liar of epic proportions. I see he trolls WestLinn’s and Bend’s post obsessively to downvote them. Quite the life, Mr. GOP.
Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @ MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
No, I’m not though, that’s the point of confusion you seem to have. The Trump scenario didn’t move the needle for me, neither did the Biden scenario. I think they both were asking for something, but a person’s singular outrage at either would make no difference.
Democrats being outraged at Trump but ignoring Biden is the same as Conservatives being outraged at Biden and ignoring Trump. Claiming definitively that one did nothing wrong and the other did only further cements the division.
Ummmm. You're missing the point.
And without covid it would be getting very little media attention.
Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @ MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
No, I’m not though, that’s the point of confusion you seem to have. The Trump scenario didn’t move the needle for me, neither did the Biden scenario. I think they both were asking for something, but a person’s singular outrage at either would make no difference.
Democrats being outraged at Trump but ignoring Biden is the same as Conservatives being outraged at Biden and ignoring Trump. Claiming definitively that one did nothing wrong and the other did only further cements the division.
Both sides do it. Except I’m only calling out the media’s (lack of) reaction to Biden, in his own voice on a call, doing exactly what the Democrats accused Trump of doing and wasting months on impeachment. If you can’t see the difference on narratives, as I stated, cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing. Your news isn’t even reporting it accurately, if at all.
I don’t dispute there are similarities and I don’t dispute the news isn’t covering the Biden storyline. I might offer that there’s a pandemic happening right now which takes precedence on the airwaves in their opinion (whether or not it should or that it’s happening to the degree of severity claimed is another thread).
I just don’t choose to die on this hill as so many others seem to nor do I predicate my vote on these things.
Maybe you don’t care about it, but your teammates decided to impeach the President on a Ukraine nothingburger because ... why again? Meanwhile, Biden and Pelosi were calling Trump a racist for halting flights from China because of WuFlu as the impeachment farcical trial was in progress. Now Trump didn’t do enough? Ridiculous and if you support this bullshit hypocrisy, you’re just another Tommy or HHutzky.
You’re still here?
Yes, and I’m still kicking your $129 LEGEND ass, Spaulding.
You seem fixated on that dollar amount. It’s just the way we support this place. You should try it. What’s holding you back?
Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
Trump would be in jail under the Obama team
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.
What would you like to come of this piece of news?
Biden and his son be investigated.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quo
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @ MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.
No, I’m not though, that’s the point of confusion you seem to have. The Trump scenario didn’t move the needle for me, neither did the Biden scenario. I think they both were asking for something, but a person’s singular outrage at either would make no difference.
Democrats being outraged at Trump but ignoring Biden is the same as Conservatives being outraged at Biden and ignoring Trump. Claiming definitively that one did nothing wrong and the other did only further cements the division.
Both sides do it. Except I’m only calling out the media’s (lack of) reaction to Biden, in his own voice on a call, doing exactly what the Democrats accused Trump of doing and wasting months on impeachment. If you can’t see the difference on narratives, as I stated, cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing. Your news isn’t even reporting it accurately, if at all.
I don’t dispute there are similarities and I don’t dispute the news isn’t covering the Biden storyline. I might offer that there’s a pandemic happening right now which takes precedence on the airwaves in their opinion (whether or not it should or that it’s happening to the degree of severity claimed is another thread).
I just don’t choose to die on this hill as so many others seem to nor do I predicate my vote on these things.
Maybe you don’t care about it, but your teammates decided to impeach the President on a Ukraine nothingburger because ... why again? Meanwhile, Biden and Pelosi were calling Trump a racist for halting flights from China because of WuFlu as the impeachment farcical trial was in progress. Now Trump didn’t do enough? Ridiculous and if you support this bullshit hypocrisy, you’re just another Tommy or HHutzky.
You’re still here?
Yes, and I’m still kicking your $129 LEGEND ass, Spaulding.
You seem fixated on that dollar amount. It’s just the way we support this place. You should try it. What’s holding you back?
None of those say what you claimed, Mr. GOP, and your Fake News links belie what Shokin said under oath. You’re not only the most prolific liar here, but you’re stupid, too.
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He's getting close to the number of posts he got in last time before he got banned. https://hardcorehusky.com/profile/PDXDuckFan
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/zelensky-probe-audio-biden-ukraine
The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee already has acknowledged such an arrangement publicly. But the leaked audio revived criticism that Biden was engaged in a kind of quid-pro-quo, much like President Trump was accused -- during impeachment proceedings -- of linking U.S. aid to calls for Zelensky to probe Shokin's ouster. The audio indicates Poroshenko went along with Biden's plan but did not think Shokin was involved in wrongdoing.
And without covid it would be getting very little media attention.
Typical lib response.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/viktor-shokin-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-biden-hunter-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/
https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/world/europe/political-stability-in-the-balance-as-ukraine-ousts-top-prosecutor.html