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Biden Phone Call to Ukraine President Released
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Ummmm. You're missing the point.MelloDawg said:
No, I’m not though, that’s the point of confusion you seem to have. The Trump scenario didn’t move the needle for me, neither did the Biden scenario. I think they both were asking for something, but a person’s singular outrage at either would make no difference.NorthwestFresh said:
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @ MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.RaceBannon said:
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quoMelloDawg said:
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.NorthwestFresh said:
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.MelloDawg said:
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.Bendintheriver said:
Biden and his son be investigated.MelloDawg said:
What would you like to come of this piece of news?NorthwestFresh said:
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Trump would be in jail under the Obama teamNorthwestFresh said:Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/phone-calls-between-quid-pro-joe-biden-and-ukraines-poroshenko-leak-explicitly-details
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Democrats being outraged at Trump but ignoring Biden is the same as Conservatives being outraged at Biden and ignoring Trump. Claiming definitively that one did nothing wrong and the other did only further cements the division.
And without covid it would be getting very little media attention. -
Zero response from Scotti.
Typical lib response. -
You seem fixated on that dollar amount. It’s just the way we support this place. You should try it. What’s holding you back?NorthwestFresh said:
Yes, and I’m still kicking your $129 LEGEND ass, Spaulding.ThomasFremont said:
You’re still here?NorthwestFresh said:I’m
Maybe you don’t care about it, but your teammates decided to impeach the President on a Ukraine nothingburger because ... why again? Meanwhile, Biden and Pelosi were calling Trump a racist for halting flights from China because of WuFlu as the impeachment farcical trial was in progress. Now Trump didn’t do enough? Ridiculous and if you support this bullshit hypocrisy, you’re just another Tommy or HHutzky.MelloDawg said:
I don’t dispute there are similarities and I don’t dispute the news isn’t covering the Biden storyline. I might offer that there’s a pandemic happening right now which takes precedence on the airwaves in their opinion (whether or not it should or that it’s happening to the degree of severity claimed is another thread).NorthwestFresh said:
Both sides do it. Except I’m only calling out the media’s (lack of) reaction to Biden, in his own voice on a call, doing exactly what the Democrats accused Trump of doing and wasting months on impeachment. If you can’t see the difference on narratives, as I stated, cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing. Your news isn’t even reporting it accurately, if at all.MelloDawg said:
No, I’m not though, that’s the point of confusion you seem to have. The Trump scenario didn’t move the needle for me, neither did the Biden scenario. I think they both were asking for something, but a person’s singular outrage at either would make no difference.NorthwestFresh said:
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @ MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.RaceBannon said:
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quoMelloDawg said:
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.NorthwestFresh said:
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.MelloDawg said:
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.Bendintheriver said:
Biden and his son be investigated.MelloDawg said:
What would you like to come of this piece of news?NorthwestFresh said:
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Trump would be in jail under the Obama teamNorthwestFresh said:Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/phone-calls-between-quid-pro-joe-biden-and-ukraines-poroshenko-leak-explicitly-details
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Democrats being outraged at Trump but ignoring Biden is the same as Conservatives being outraged at Biden and ignoring Trump. Claiming definitively that one did nothing wrong and the other did only further cements the division.
I just don’t choose to die on this hill as so many others seem to nor do I predicate my vote on these things. -
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Notice how the Tug Right skipped neatly past the AOC lure I dangled. Speaks volume and helps Yang, IMO
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Time to shine, @GDS.Bendintheriver said:Zero response from Scotti.
Typical lib response. -
Sure - there are pages and pages of them. Your google broken?RaceBannon said:Got a link Scott? Liar 2 shows up
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/viktor-shokin-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-biden-hunter-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/
https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/world/europe/political-stability-in-the-balance-as-ukraine-ousts-top-prosecutor.html -
Why would AOC be in a Biden thread?Baseman said:Notice how the Tug Right skipped neatly past the AOC lure I dangled. Speaks volume and helps Yang, IMO
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I don’t want to be a LEGEND, GDI.ThomasFremont said:
You seem fixated on that dollar amount. It’s just the way we support this place. You should try it. What’s holding you back?NorthwestFresh said:
Yes, and I’m still kicking your $129 LEGEND ass, Spaulding.ThomasFremont said:
You’re still here?NorthwestFresh said:I’m
Maybe you don’t care about it, but your teammates decided to impeach the President on a Ukraine nothingburger because ... why again? Meanwhile, Biden and Pelosi were calling Trump a racist for halting flights from China because of WuFlu as the impeachment farcical trial was in progress. Now Trump didn’t do enough? Ridiculous and if you support this bullshit hypocrisy, you’re just another Tommy or HHutzky.MelloDawg said:
I don’t dispute there are similarities and I don’t dispute the news isn’t covering the Biden storyline. I might offer that there’s a pandemic happening right now which takes precedence on the airwaves in their opinion (whether or not it should or that it’s happening to the degree of severity claimed is another thread).NorthwestFresh said:
Both sides do it. Except I’m only calling out the media’s (lack of) reaction to Biden, in his own voice on a call, doing exactly what the Democrats accused Trump of doing and wasting months on impeachment. If you can’t see the difference on narratives, as I stated, cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing. Your news isn’t even reporting it accurately, if at all.MelloDawg said:
No, I’m not though, that’s the point of confusion you seem to have. The Trump scenario didn’t move the needle for me, neither did the Biden scenario. I think they both were asking for something, but a person’s singular outrage at either would make no difference.NorthwestFresh said:
Cognitive Dissonance is a hell of a thing. @ MelloDawg is out-Fremonting @ThomasFremont with his word salads and logical pretzels trying to justify Biden doing what his team accused Trump of doing. These people aren’t worth having a rational with on anything regarding their religion.RaceBannon said:
The Senate laughed the charges out of chambers. There was no quid pro quoMelloDawg said:
“Under investigation in Ukraine” is unlikely to amount to much, you know that. I recall hearing about that, but likely you hear about it less now as again, nothing will come of it.NorthwestFresh said:
Trump didn’t do it with similar evidence. Adam Schiff and Morbidly Obese war hero Vidman made up in their own minds a transcript of a call that didn’t at all reflect the actual call, and you liberals wasted 6 months on that lie. We? didn’t even get a basic media report of Biden engaging in what you liberals consider a crime. Biden is now under investigation again in Ukraine, but you wouldn’t know it other than me posting it. Get out of your Leftist Echo Chamber and educate yourself.MelloDawg said:
Right, but if Trump supposedly did it with similar evidence, isn’t that also wrong? I mean, several GOP senators admitted it happened but just wasn’t worth removing him from office. I think he was made to be the example, his supporters just thought it was heinous.Bendintheriver said:
Biden and his son be investigated.MelloDawg said:
What would you like to come of this piece of news?NorthwestFresh said:
Meanwhile, not one liberal news source reported this bombshell call on their nightly news or is even reporting it.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Trump would be in jail under the Obama teamNorthwestFresh said:Leaked phone calls between Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin - who Poroshenko admits did nothing wrong - in exchange for $1 billion in US loan guarantees (which Biden openly bragged about in January, 2018).
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/phone-calls-between-quid-pro-joe-biden-and-ukraines-poroshenko-leak-explicitly-details
Protecting Hunter and using foreign aid as leverage.
FFS you rats celebrated the cause for a Mueller investigation over Don Jr. having a simple meeting with a Russian. Now you want to ignore an investigation into what is clearly a corrupt Biden and son making millions off of Biden pedaling influence with the US Government and then forcing the President of Ukraine to call off the Ukrainian investigation into his son and Burisma?
WTF is wrong with you people?
What the fuck do you mean "what would you like to come of this piece of news"? The country needs to stop this kind of crime and international strong arming for personal profit. They need to prosecute Biden and his crack addict, deadbeat dad, son. Biden and his family are 100% pure trash and low life scum. They need to be made into an example that this kind of criminal conduct does not go unpunished.
That said, I’m not part of the “rats” who really cared about the Ukraine scandal as I knew nothing would come of it and that sort of discussion likely does happen often, it’s just more salacious to leak those things these days because Trump. I applaud those who took principled stands on it but sure, I’d look like a hypocrite if I cared about the Trump scenario and not this one.
It’s not a cognitive dissonance issue with me on this. I did think the Trump version of this seemed thin, but he was charged with obstruction and abuse of power, GOP senators were in agreement, it was just a weak set of charges. Can Biden be charged with something similar in the US?
Regarding echo chambers, since you’ve used that a couple times today, this entire bored is an echo chamber.
There was with Joe. Its on fucking video tape
Try again roadkill
Democrats being outraged at Trump but ignoring Biden is the same as Conservatives being outraged at Biden and ignoring Trump. Claiming definitively that one did nothing wrong and the other did only further cements the division.
I just don’t choose to die on this hill as so many others seem to nor do I predicate my vote on these things. -
None of those say what you claimed, Mr. GOP, and your Fake News links belie what Shokin said under oath. You’re not only the most prolific liar here, but you’re stupid, too.GDS said:
Sure - there are pages and pages of them. Your google broken?RaceBannon said:Got a link Scott? Liar 2 shows up
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/viktor-shokin-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-biden-hunter-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/
https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/world/europe/political-stability-in-the-balance-as-ukraine-ousts-top-prosecutor.html
