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incremetal_progress
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even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
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Hope this gets shut down fast. People who have paid into SS their entire working lives should get exactly what the government promissed. Would the plan be voluntary or forced?
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Voluntary. The first timE
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Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
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nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
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Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you. -
Big fan of inflation, then, eh? Maybe lay that out to Benito Inslee on keeping spending going and the economy open.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
English lit or Elementary Ed major?
@UW_Doog_Bot HELP!!!! -
Pretty sure they floated this back before the economy took a shit. Let the outrage bus continue regardless.
Also, entitlements are going to have to be reformed to stay solvent. No matter what I expect the Left to deny that basic reality and continue to be outraged anytime it's addressed. -
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
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Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression. -
Maybe not where you live. It's a large, diverse country.incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
Broaden your horizons fren. -
broadly speaking the economy isn't going completely back to normal anytime soon.dnc said:
Maybe not where you live. It's a large, diverse country.incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
Broaden your horizons fren.
that's the point of the post, this is the worst possible time to consider cutting spending.
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if the government imposes austerity it will be a decade long depression. Opening the economy alone isn't enough.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
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Well, people of your worldview and mindset won't but the rest of us 50% will live our lives once again.incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you. -
The potential of 25% unemployment is more than a mild recession.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
That said, I’m no economist but I have doubts that anything other than “business as usual” will bring the economy to where it needs to be. That also being said, it will not be business as usual anywhere by November. Unemployment will still be at a number that’s damning during normal times and would be a lead pipe cinch to lose an election. It’ll come down to messaging for Team Trump and if he can spin statistics to say what an anomaly this was and not his fault. -
You need someone to spin facts that are in front of your face?MelloDawg said:
The potential of 25% unemployment is more than a mild recession.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
That said, I’m no economist but I have doubts that anything other than “business as usual” will bring the economy to where it needs to be. That also being said, it will not be business as usual anywhere by November. Unemployment will still be at a number that’s damning during normal times and would be a lead pipe cinch to lose an election. It’ll come down to messaging for Team Trump and if he can spin statistics to say what an anomaly this was and not his fault. -
The left drums up fear with unprecedented pandemic that will kill millions, forcing shut down, drags feet, creates chaos, tanks economy, acts shocked the economy tanks, blames Trump.RaceBannon said:
You need someone to spin facts that are in front of your face?MelloDawg said:
The potential of 25% unemployment is more than a mild recession.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
That said, I’m no economist but I have doubts that anything other than “business as usual” will bring the economy to where it needs to be. That also being said, it will not be business as usual anywhere by November. Unemployment will still be at a number that’s damning during normal times and would be a lead pipe cinch to lose an election. It’ll come down to messaging for Team Trump and if he can spin statistics to say what an anomaly this was and not his fault.
The shamelessness of suggesting this is on Trump is special.
I've said from the beginning, if it gets Trump out in November it will all be worth it. That's all this is. -
For real. None of us knows what a depression is all about and probably aren’t tuff enuff to make it through.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression. -
I’m in Montana at a bar having an afternoon IPA or 4 and it’s packed. Fly-fished the Clark’s Fork already today. You stay in mom’s basement. Some of us aren’t pussies.incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you. -
Have to say, it’s basically business as usual in Missoula this weekend. I’m sure we will all be dead in two weeks.
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Basically agree with this. Although I’m not a fan of entitlements and think the welfare state we’ve created needs an overhaul.DuckHHunterisafag said:Hope this gets shut down fast. People who have paid into SS their entire working lives should get exactly what the government promissed. Would the plan be voluntary or forced?
But we’d have a pretty good mess on our hands as a society if we did away with SS and Medicare. Plus, I’d like a shot at getting some of my $$ back. -
Good. Give me the $10k and let me stop throwing my money away into SS taxes. I'll get a lot more out of that lump sum than whatever paltry payout I'm scheduled to get a few decades from now.
It was a nice idea 80 years ago, and it worked for awhile, but all ponzi schemes finally hit their wall.
Of course we all know this will never actually happen. Neither party has the balls to really go after entitlement reform. The AARP has them scared shitless. -
Some state governments, including the governors of those of us dumb enough to live in CA/OR/WA, are imposing austerity right now. What the fuck are you looking at to tell you these aren’t austere measures already imposed on our Pacific Coast states’ economies?incremetal_progress said:
if the government imposes austerity it will be a decade long depression. Opening the economy alone isn't enough.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you.
As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
Democrat Governors are picking winners/losers in terms of being “essential” while every mooch in a taxpayer-funded government job is still being paid. -
Disagree bigly. I think there’s pent up demand. Things will change here and there. But people want to get back life as normally as possible. I also think people in general are not as afraid of the COVID as they were in the beginning.incremetal_progress said:
that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.incremetal_progress said:
nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.PurpleThrobber said:
Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?
Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.
Very Castro-esque of you. -
Oddly, pretty much every government construction project seems to be essential in Portland. I can’t speak for the rest of the state. Which is why I’m in Montana and Wyoming for a month.
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You’ll still pay the tax, it’s just that you’ll have the $10000 credited to your accountGreenRiverGatorz said:Good. Give me the $10k and let me stop throwing my money away into SS taxes. I'll get a lot more out of that lump sum than whatever paltry payout I'm scheduled to get a few decades from now.
It was a nice idea 80 years ago, and it worked for awhile, but all ponzi schemes finally hit their wall.
Of course we all know this will never actually happen. Neither party has the balls to really go after entitlement reform. The AARP has them scared shitless. -
No one should ever believe WAPO. The article is bullshit. Just more of the same.incremetal_progress said:
even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
I can't access the article. Can anyone tell us if it is based on anonymous sources? -
you guys are fucking nuts if you think simply saying "the economy is open!" is gonna fix everything. Truly delusional thinking.
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I sure as fuck know that "the economy is closed" isn't gonna help.incremetal_progress said:you guys are fucking nuts if you think simply saying "the economy is open!" is gonna fix everything. Truly delusional thinking.
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Except this post was about how stupid cutting spending is when the economy can operate at half capacity (at best), not advocating that we stay closed until the end of time.PurpleThrobber said:
I sure as fuck know that "the economy is closed" isn't gonna help.incremetal_progress said:you guys are fucking nuts if you think simply saying "the economy is open!" is gonna fix everything. Truly delusional thinking.
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Fix everything no. Depression no too.incremetal_progress said:you guys are fucking nuts if you think simply saying "the economy is open!" is gonna fix everything. Truly delusional thinking.
This can’t go on much longer.
