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incremetal_progressincremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
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even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,396
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    Hope this gets shut down fast. People who have paid into SS their entire working lives should get exactly what the government promissed. Would the plan be voluntary or forced?
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    Voluntary. The first timE
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,310
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

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    incremetal_progressincremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,396
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,310
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Big fan of inflation, then, eh? Maybe lay that out to Benito Inslee on keeping spending going and the economy open.

    English lit or Elementary Ed major?

    @UW_Doog_Bot HELP!!!!
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    incremetal_progressincremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
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    incremetal_progressincremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    Maybe not where you live. It's a large, diverse country.

    Broaden your horizons fren.
    broadly speaking the economy isn't going completely back to normal anytime soon.

    that's the point of the post, this is the worst possible time to consider cutting spending.
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    incremetal_progressincremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?

    As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
    if the government imposes austerity it will be a decade long depression. Opening the economy alone isn't enough.
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,396
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    Well, people of your worldview and mindset won't but the rest of us 50% will live our lives once again.
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    MelloDawgMelloDawg Member Posts: 6,251
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?

    As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
    The potential of 25% unemployment is more than a mild recession.

    That said, I’m no economist but I have doubts that anything other than “business as usual” will bring the economy to where it needs to be. That also being said, it will not be business as usual anywhere by November. Unemployment will still be at a number that’s damning during normal times and would be a lead pipe cinch to lose an election. It’ll come down to messaging for Team Trump and if he can spin statistics to say what an anomaly this was and not his fault.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,518
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    MelloDawg said:



    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?

    As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
    The potential of 25% unemployment is more than a mild recession.

    That said, I’m no economist but I have doubts that anything other than “business as usual” will bring the economy to where it needs to be. That also being said, it will not be business as usual anywhere by November. Unemployment will still be at a number that’s damning during normal times and would be a lead pipe cinch to lose an election. It’ll come down to messaging for Team Trump and if he can spin statistics to say what an anomaly this was and not his fault.
    You need someone to spin facts that are in front of your face?
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,483
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    MelloDawg said:



    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?

    As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
    The potential of 25% unemployment is more than a mild recession.

    That said, I’m no economist but I have doubts that anything other than “business as usual” will bring the economy to where it needs to be. That also being said, it will not be business as usual anywhere by November. Unemployment will still be at a number that’s damning during normal times and would be a lead pipe cinch to lose an election. It’ll come down to messaging for Team Trump and if he can spin statistics to say what an anomaly this was and not his fault.
    You need someone to spin facts that are in front of your face?
    The left drums up fear with unprecedented pandemic that will kill millions, forcing shut down, drags feet, creates chaos, tanks economy, acts shocked the economy tanks, blames Trump.


    The shamelessness of suggesting this is on Trump is special.

    I've said from the beginning, if it gets Trump out in November it will all be worth it. That's all this is.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,753
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    Why is it that people fall for the false binary of "stay at home" or "business as usual"?

    As if a mild recession is the same thing as a decade long depression.
    For real. None of us knows what a depression is all about and probably aren’t tuff enuff to make it through.
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    even discussing shit like this when unemployment is nearing 20% is Hoover-esque
    Uh....how you gonna pay for the entitlements otherwise?

    More loans from the Chinese overlords? Backed by what? Their already overleveraged financial system?

    Tax revenue are set to plummet. Or are you thinking maybe the US government should nationalize and confiscate property to stay liquid? Scaling back is going to have to happen everywhere.


    Very Castro-esque of you.

    nobody fucking cares about deficits anymore. voters don't. republicans don't. democrats don't. Cutting spending right now will only accelerate our march towards another great depression.
    Unless we stop the madness and get back to work.
    that won't change anything. Even if the economy is "opened" no one is gonna fly, eat out, or do anything.
    I’m in Montana at a bar having an afternoon IPA or 4 and it’s packed. Fly-fished the Clark’s Fork already today. You stay in mom’s basement. Some of us aren’t pussies.
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Have to say, it’s basically business as usual in Missoula this weekend. I’m sure we will all be dead in two weeks.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,753
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    Hope this gets shut down fast. People who have paid into SS their entire working lives should get exactly what the government promissed. Would the plan be voluntary or forced?

    Basically agree with this. Although I’m not a fan of entitlements and think the welfare state we’ve created needs an overhaul.

    But we’d have a pretty good mess on our hands as a society if we did away with SS and Medicare. Plus, I’d like a shot at getting some of my $$ back.
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