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Authoritarian Government update

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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,920 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    And here we go.....

    What WWVI? That's about what we're up to now?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    Trump is off base here.


    It’s clear that the States are the ones that have the absolute power to strip it’s Citizens of half of their Bill of Rights.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,968
    salemcoog said:

    Trump is off base here.


    It’s clear that the States are the ones that have the absolute power to strip it’s Citizens of half of their Bill of Rights.

    Trump is just trolling the press.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    I wish @AllahPundit poasted here
    If his authority in emergencies is “total” — and again, it isn’t — how can he say “I don’t take responsibility at all” when asked about the early failure in testing?

    Someone on his staff needs to explain to him that claiming “total authority” is going to make it much harder for him to scapegoat Cuomo and other governors for the sustained economic pain when they refuse to reopen on his timetable. Which is what’s coming, and not just among Democratic governors:
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club

    I wish @AllahPundit poasted here

    If his authority in emergencies is “total” — and again, it isn’t — how can he say “I don’t take responsibility at all” when asked about the early failure in testing?

    Someone on his staff needs to explain to him that claiming “total authority” is going to make it much harder for him to scapegoat Cuomo and other governors for the sustained economic pain when they refuse to reopen on his timetable. Which is what’s coming, and not just among Democratic governors:
    Except that Cuomo is insisting on making it clear that he helped ruin the economy with the Nazi Governors

    Trump puts out the bait and the democrats hit it hard. The tweets and news briefings aren't for the base. Its for Sven and Harv
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    Well, when the fuck is Trump going to use that awesome power and open shit up?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club

    Well, when the fuck is Trump going to use that awesome power and open shit up?

    Governors have the power to stop him. As they gleefully are pointing out while jack booting backyard parties. They shut it down.

    Trump will say to open it and they won't and the people will be in favor of opening it up

    We don't have a dictator. Regardless of any tweets
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,423 Standard Supporter
    Open it up and those states get to be destroyed. Cut federal aid to them. They want to hurt Trump at any cost.
  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,753 Swaye's Wigwam

    I wish @AllahPundit poasted here

    If his authority in emergencies is “total” — and again, it isn’t — how can he say “I don’t take responsibility at all” when asked about the early failure in testing?

    Someone on his staff needs to explain to him that claiming “total authority” is going to make it much harder for him to scapegoat Cuomo and other governors for the sustained economic pain when they refuse to reopen on his timetable. Which is what’s coming, and not just among Democratic governors:
    Except that Cuomo is insisting on making it clear that he helped ruin the economy with the Nazi Governors

    Trump puts out the bait and the democrats hit it hard. The tweets and news briefings aren't for the base. Its for Sven and Harv
    Could be true. However, when the CBS reporter was going at him, there was a pretty clear moment he was ready to snap after he paused mid sentence and stared straight ahead. I was hoping for it but had to settle for the production it ended up being instead.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    I wish @AllahPundit poasted here

    If his authority in emergencies is “total” — and again, it isn’t — how can he say “I don’t take responsibility at all” when asked about the early failure in testing?

    Someone on his staff needs to explain to him that claiming “total authority” is going to make it much harder for him to scapegoat Cuomo and other governors for the sustained economic pain when they refuse to reopen on his timetable. Which is what’s coming, and not just among Democratic governors:
    Except that Cuomo is insisting on making it clear that he helped ruin the economy with the Nazi Governors

    Trump puts out the bait and the democrats hit it hard. The tweets and news briefings aren't for the base. Its for Sven and Harv
    Could be true. However, when the CBS reporter was going at him, there was a pretty clear moment he was ready to snap after he paused mid sentence and stared straight ahead. I was hoping for it but had to settle for the production it ended up being instead.
    Trump knows his audience
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club
    Tucker Carlson: For Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in the coronavirus crisis, it's all about power

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-coronavirus-power


    This is probably more concerning but still
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Well, when the fuck is Trump going to use that awesome power and open shit up?

    Governors have the power to stop him. As they gleefully are pointing out while jack booting backyard parties. They shut it down.

    Trump will say to open it and they won't and the people will be in favor of opening it up

    We don't have a dictator. Regardless of any tweets
    Then Trump should quit being a pansy, declare the country open for business, and let the political chips fall where they may.

    Right now he looks clueless and doesn't know what the fuck to do.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club

    Well, when the fuck is Trump going to use that awesome power and open shit up?

    Governors have the power to stop him. As they gleefully are pointing out while jack booting backyard parties. They shut it down.

    Trump will say to open it and they won't and the people will be in favor of opening it up

    We don't have a dictator. Regardless of any tweets
    Then Trump should quit being a pansy, declare the country open for business, and let the political chips fall where they may.

    Right now he looks clueless and doesn't know what the fuck to do.
    Disagree
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club
    On March 23rd, Gretchen Whitmer, who is the governor of Michigan, announced it was going to be necessary to lock down her state during the coronavirus outbreak and she explained why she was doing it. Here's what she said.

    Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer: Without additional aggressive measures, soon, our hospitals will be overwhelmed, and we don't currently don't even have enough beds, masks, gowns and ventilators.

    We must work together to bend the curve. We must do more to curtail community spread so our health system has a fighting chance.

    Today, I'm issuing a stay home, stay safe executive order.

    Okay, so she said -- we want to be fair here -- what a lot of people were saying last month, which is, we need to slow the transmission of this so our health care system doesn't fall apart. As we just told you a moment ago, that's what the model said. Models had already factored in the lockdown.

    So, two weeks later, what's happened? Well, Michigan's health care system has not collapsed. Even in Detroit, which is as you likely know, has seen one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks anywhere in the nation.

    Many hospitals in Michigan are now discharging more coronavirus patients than they're admitting. In fact, an emergency hospital under construction outside Detroit has slashed its bed count from 1,000 to just 250. Why? The expected number of patients failed to arrive.

    Now, that's all great news that you would think Gov. Whitmer, who is supposed to be looking out for the interest of her own people, would be celebrating on television. She is doing just the opposite. She has moved aggressively to seize even more control of her state and the lives of the people who live there. So she bulled forward.

    Last week, Whitmer banned all gatherings anywhere, for any reason of any size, including in people's private homes, as if she is allowed to do that.

    If Michigan residents own more than one home, Whitmer has banned them from traveling between them, and outside Detroit, it is very common, especially for working-class people, to have a cabin up north. You're not allowed to go there.

    And then she kept going. Not only did Gov. Whitmer close most stores in the state, she banned the few that remained open from selling items that she deemed unnecessary.


    Again seems like a much larger issue but the people do love the circus
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club
    https://foxnews.com/politics/doj-mississippi-church

    EXCLUSIVE: The Justice Department intervened in a Mississippi church’s lawsuit by saying in a court filing that it "strongly suggests that the city’s actions target religious conduct" after the church sued police for ticketing congregants during a drive-in service amid coronavirus, Fox News has learned.

    The Justice Department is siding with Temple Baptist Church in Greenville, Miss., after Greenville police officers began issuing $500 tickets to congregants who refused to leave a parking lot where the church was holding a drive-in service.

    In the statement of interest obtained exclusively by Fox News on Tuesday, the Justice Department said the U.S. regularly files statements of interest on “important issues of religious liberty in courts at every level, from trial courts to the Supreme Court of the United States.” It noted that Attorney General Bill Barr has “issued comprehensive guidance interpreting religious-liberty protections” under the Constitution.



    This is a legit Federal intervention. Same as if someone decided to sell TP to whites only during a state mandated lockdown.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    https://time.com/3540288/ebola-federal-government-end-quarantine-health-workers-kaci-hickox/
    The White House made a push Sunday against a mandate ordered by several states over the last three days that requires all health care workers returning from West Africa who had any contact with Ebola patients to be put in quarantine for 21 days, regardless of symptoms or test results.

    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie announced the mandatory quarantine policy, which far exceeds Federal guidelines, on Friday, a day after New York doctor Craig Spencer was diagnosed with Ebola after returning from Guinea, where he contracted the disease. Illinois and Florida have followed suit and put similar policies in place.

    The New York Times reports that the Obama administration is now levying pressure on both New York and New Jersey to roll back the new rules, after the detainment practice received widespread criticism from the health community.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,785 Standard Supporter

    https://foxnews.com/politics/doj-mississippi-church

    EXCLUSIVE: The Justice Department intervened in a Mississippi church’s lawsuit by saying in a court filing that it "strongly suggests that the city’s actions target religious conduct" after the church sued police for ticketing congregants during a drive-in service amid coronavirus, Fox News has learned.

    The Justice Department is siding with Temple Baptist Church in Greenville, Miss., after Greenville police officers began issuing $500 tickets to congregants who refused to leave a parking lot where the church was holding a drive-in service.

    In the statement of interest obtained exclusively by Fox News on Tuesday, the Justice Department said the U.S. regularly files statements of interest on “important issues of religious liberty in courts at every level, from trial courts to the Supreme Court of the United States.” It noted that Attorney General Bill Barr has “issued comprehensive guidance interpreting religious-liberty protections” under the Constitution.



    This is a legit Federal intervention. Same as if someone decided to sell TP to whites only during a state mandated lockdown.

    DOJ! DOJ! DOJ!

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