Ken Burns Civil War Series - Episode One: The Cause (1861)
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We shall see.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm talking present day. Both mindset and lifestyle -and, with the amount of New Yorkers and Californians fleeing, the economic tables will turn soon enough.YellowSnow said:
The snow in Colorado sucks compared to Utah. No need to. Great quality of life there too except I’m not into armpit sex.PurpleThrobber said:
California has the sixth largest economy in the world and its gone to shit.YellowSnow said:
Uhm yeah, no. The GDP of the union states circa 1865 still dwarfs the CSA states. Both per capita and in absolute terms. Same as it ever was.PurpleThrobber said:
The South is the new NorthCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The NorthSECDAWG said:
Sorry Pod. Minus slavery issues, I fight with my confederate brothers against big gubment.YellowSnow said:Shout out to our Shelby Foote @RaceBannon .
Fuck off @SECDAWG you treasonous cousin fucker.
@swaye @whlinder Northern Virginia is for gay lovers and losers.
As Hank Jr sang:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk
Just needed more supplies. Could out shoot em 10:1.
Was a terrible War. Lotta good lives lost and beautiful families and properties destroyed.
SEC still hasn’t forgot and thus, football.
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There are other metrics besides coin, fren
You should get east of the wasatch more often.
Sure they are other considerations, but that’s not my point about the Civil War. The North won with more bodies and with more GDP. The south has caught up some but the Union still has more bodies and more GDP.
I’m sure an argument can be made that TX or FL has a better middle class quality of life than CA, but that’s not where I was going with this.
Go spend two months in the south and your perspective will change dramatically.
Alas I’m not a fit recreationally or weather wise for the Souf. Is what it is. -
So as it turns out bend Broadband doesn’t have the History channel on its standard package.RaceBannon said:
Homework assignmentYellowSnow said:
We lost Football to the Confederacy.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The NorthSECDAWG said:
Sorry Pod. Minus slavery issues, I fight with my confederate brothers against big gubment.YellowSnow said:Shout out to our Shelby Foote @RaceBannon .
Fuck off @SECDAWG you treasonous cousin fucker.
@swaye @whlinder Northern Virginia is for gay lovers and losers.
As Hank Jr sang:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk
Just needed more supplies. Could out shoot em 10:1.
Was a terrible War. Lotta good lives lost and beautiful families and properties destroyed.
SEC still hasn’t forgot and thus, football.
1-0
The Big and Pac giving up the Rose Bowl @RaceBannon was as if Pickett's Charge had broken the Union center at Gettysburg.
More hawt talk to come in the Greatest Battle tournament.
History Channel 3pm today
6 hours of Unconditional Surrender Grant
I guess the Ducktards dont care about history. -
Doog_de_Jour said:
As today is the anniversary of the Battle of Fort Sumter, I kick off my annual rewatch of the PBS documentary series The Civil War.
Annnndddddddd roll “Ashokan Farewell”...
https://youtu.be/uZmxZThb084
SPOILERS FOLLOW...
Episode opens with the anecdote about Wilmer McLean and how a cannonball exploded through his fireplace and went into the kitchen of his Virginian farmhouse to kick off the First Battle of Bull Run (ILTCIT because I’m a Northerner). Fast forward several years and the same dude is hosting Lee’s surrender to Grant. “The war began in my front yard and ended in my parlor.” WHAT ARE THE ODDS?
You briefly are introduced the cast of characters.. heavy hitters with the voice talent: Jason Robards, Morgan Freeman, Center, Jeremy Irons. You also get the first of many interviews with historians like Shelby Foote (raawwwrrrr) and Barbara Fields. Barbara definitely appears ready to rumble.
Film footage of FDR thanking Civil War vets that fought alongside @RaceBannon at Gettysburg.
Causes of the conflict are outlined...states' rights, the invention of the cotton gin, John Brown at Harpers Ferry, the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860, Uncle Tom’s Cabin, bleeding Kansas, the firing on Fort Sumter...we didn’t start the fire...it was always burning, since the world’s been turning.
John C. Calhoun, Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, and some Southerners write a bunch of racist crap that nobody asked for.
Mary Chestnut begins her diary, predicting a “cataclysmic” and quick end to the conflict.
The episode ends with a heart wrenching letter a Union solider Private Jacob Browning writes home to his wife, Martha, before being killed at Manassas Stadium by a superior Confederate squad, 34-17. -
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YellowSnow said:
Uhm yeah, no. The GDP of the union states circa 1865 still dwarfs the CSA states. Both per capita and in absolute terms. Same as it ever was.PurpleThrobber said:
The South is the new NorthCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The NorthSECDAWG said:
Sorry Pod. Minus slavery issues, I fight with my confederate brothers against big gubment.YellowSnow said:Shout out to our Shelby Foote @RaceBannon .
Fuck off @SECDAWG you treasonous cousin fucker.
@swaye @whlinder Northern Virginia is for gay lovers and losers.
As Hank Jr sang:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk
Just needed more supplies. Could out shoot em 10:1.
Was a terrible War. Lotta good lives lost and beautiful families and properties destroyed.
SEC still hasn’t forgot and thus, football.
1-0
This was key. The bigger population and better infrastructure was an absolute advantage and if not for McClellan, I wonder if the Civil War would have concluded in 1964.
Has anyone read the Grant Book by Chernow? Ridiculously good. Grant is one of the most notable Americans ever IMHO. -
Civil war over in 1964 ? Damn. That’s like Joan of Arc shit. Lulz.HFNY said:YellowSnow said:
Uhm yeah, no. The GDP of the union states circa 1865 still dwarfs the CSA states. Both per capita and in absolute terms. Same as it ever was.PurpleThrobber said:
The South is the new NorthCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The NorthSECDAWG said:
Sorry Pod. Minus slavery issues, I fight with my confederate brothers against big gubment.YellowSnow said:Shout out to our Shelby Foote @RaceBannon .
Fuck off @SECDAWG you treasonous cousin fucker.
@swaye @whlinder Northern Virginia is for gay lovers and losers.
As Hank Jr sang:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk
Just needed more supplies. Could out shoot em 10:1.
Was a terrible War. Lotta good lives lost and beautiful families and properties destroyed.
SEC still hasn’t forgot and thus, football.
1-0
This was key. The bigger population and better infrastructure was an absolute advantage and if not for McClellan, I wonder if the Civil War would have concluded in 1964.
Has anyone read the Grant Book by Chernow? Ridiculously good. Grant is one of the most notable Americans ever IMHO.
Yes, a number of us @CFetters_Nacho_Lover and @CfettersNachoLover and myself have read Grant by Chernow. @pawz maybe as well.
Greatest General America ever produced and on the Mt Rushmore of greatest American life stories. -
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I literally finally finished it this week. Really good read. Biased though, I'm a long tim Chernow fan.HFNY said:YellowSnow said:
Uhm yeah, no. The GDP of the union states circa 1865 still dwarfs the CSA states. Both per capita and in absolute terms. Same as it ever was.PurpleThrobber said:
The South is the new NorthCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The NorthSECDAWG said:
Sorry Pod. Minus slavery issues, I fight with my confederate brothers against big gubment.YellowSnow said:Shout out to our Shelby Foote @RaceBannon .
Fuck off @SECDAWG you treasonous cousin fucker.
@swaye @whlinder Northern Virginia is for gay lovers and losers.
As Hank Jr sang:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk
Just needed more supplies. Could out shoot em 10:1.
Was a terrible War. Lotta good lives lost and beautiful families and properties destroyed.
SEC still hasn’t forgot and thus, football.
1-0
This was key. The bigger population and better infrastructure was an absolute advantage and if not for McClellan, I wonder if the Civil War would have concluded in 1964.
Has anyone read the Grant Book by Chernow? Ridiculously good. Grant is one of the most notable Americans ever IMHO.
Didn't know a lot about Grant before hand. One of our most underrated Presidents.
He should have gone to the convention floor to get that 3rd term, IMO.
For as great a leader as he was, it was amazing how he managed to get burned often in his business dealings.
One mentally TUFF sob. That's for sure.
@YellowSnow @HFNY @CFetters_Nacho_Lover @Doog_de_Jour -
Thanks Pawz!pawz said:
I literally finally finished it this week. Really good read. Biased though, I'm a long tim Chernow fan.HFNY said:YellowSnow said:
Uhm yeah, no. The GDP of the union states circa 1865 still dwarfs the CSA states. Both per capita and in absolute terms. Same as it ever was.PurpleThrobber said:
The South is the new NorthCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The NorthSECDAWG said:
Sorry Pod. Minus slavery issues, I fight with my confederate brothers against big gubment.YellowSnow said:Shout out to our Shelby Foote @RaceBannon .
Fuck off @SECDAWG you treasonous cousin fucker.
@swaye @whlinder Northern Virginia is for gay lovers and losers.
As Hank Jr sang:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk
Just needed more supplies. Could out shoot em 10:1.
Was a terrible War. Lotta good lives lost and beautiful families and properties destroyed.
SEC still hasn’t forgot and thus, football.
1-0
This was key. The bigger population and better infrastructure was an absolute advantage and if not for McClellan, I wonder if the Civil War would have concluded in 1964.
Has anyone read the Grant Book by Chernow? Ridiculously good. Grant is one of the most notable Americans ever IMHO.
Didn't know a lot about Grant before hand. One of our most underrated Presidents.
He should have gone to the convention floor to get that 3rd term, IMO.
For as great a leader as he was, it was amazing how he managed to get burned often in his business dealings.
One mentally TUFF sob. That's for sure.
@YellowSnow @HFNY @CFetters_Nacho_Lover @Doog_de_Jour -
Chernow's take on Worshington is also essential.pawz said:
I literally finally finished it this week. Really good read. Biased though, I'm a long tim Chernow fan.HFNY said:YellowSnow said:
Uhm yeah, no. The GDP of the union states circa 1865 still dwarfs the CSA states. Both per capita and in absolute terms. Same as it ever was.PurpleThrobber said:
The South is the new NorthCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The NorthSECDAWG said:
Sorry Pod. Minus slavery issues, I fight with my confederate brothers against big gubment.YellowSnow said:Shout out to our Shelby Foote @RaceBannon .
Fuck off @SECDAWG you treasonous cousin fucker.
@swaye @whlinder Northern Virginia is for gay lovers and losers.
As Hank Jr sang:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk
Just needed more supplies. Could out shoot em 10:1.
Was a terrible War. Lotta good lives lost and beautiful families and properties destroyed.
SEC still hasn’t forgot and thus, football.
1-0
This was key. The bigger population and better infrastructure was an absolute advantage and if not for McClellan, I wonder if the Civil War would have concluded in 1964.
Has anyone read the Grant Book by Chernow? Ridiculously good. Grant is one of the most notable Americans ever IMHO.
Didn't know a lot about Grant before hand. One of our most underrated Presidents.
He should have gone to the convention floor to get that 3rd term, IMO.
For as great a leader as he was, it was amazing how he managed to get burned often in his business dealings.
One mentally TUFF sob. That's for sure.
@YellowSnow @HFNY @CFetters_Nacho_Lover @Doog_de_Jour
I think his presidency was underrated and he did the best he could with Reconstruction. It was a losing hand, however, unless we? wanted to occupy @SECDAWG for 50 years.
Don't know about 3rd term though. George set the precedent here and it was a good one. We don't need life long kings.
