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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,464 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    The straw man theyve built is incredible.

    It was gonna be 2.2 million deaths! Cuomo and that fag from CA saved us!

    “Think of the number — potentially 2.2 million people if we did nothing, if we didn’t do the distancing, if we didn’t do all of the things that we’re doing." - Donald J. Trump
    When did he say that fuckface?

    He was using your shitty model because experts

    I said the left would end up blaming Trump for what the governors did

    I was right

    Trump didn't shut anything down.

    HHusky said:

    The straw man theyve built is incredible.

    It was gonna be 2.2 million deaths! Cuomo and that fag from CA saved us!

    “Think of the number — potentially 2.2 million people if we did nothing, if we didn’t do the distancing, if we didn’t do all of the things that we’re doing." - Donald J. Trump
    When did he say that fuckface?

    He was using your shitty model because experts

    I said the left would end up blaming Trump for what the governors did

    I was right

    Trump didn't shut anything down.
    I’m not blaming Daddy for the governors doing the right thing. You’re getting your rants in a jumble.
    You're not doing anything other than making a fool out of yourself

    You brought up your daddy.

    The governors did the wrong thing

    Fucked the economy based on a faulty model

    Fucking brilliant
    And the accurate model projects how many deaths and illnesses? (4th time)
    What accurate model?

    When have we done this before?

    Should we do it again next year?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,334

    HHusky said:

    Weighing in here. The virus is a bad virus. Certainly not the flu. Tends to kill old fucks like Race.

    That said, social distancing seemed like a reasonable and effective measure. 6', wash your hands, etc. I could even get on board with closing schools for a while.

    Crashing the entire economy and shuttering virtually all businesses probably, in my opinion, was not needed. That's where the went too far. When the bodies don't stack up like cordwood in countries who didn't go as far as we did, that will be an interesting data point.

    For all you fuckers who say, no price is too high to pay to save a human life, go fuck yourselves. That's simply not true.

    Could we make cars more safe? Sure...but they'd be too damn expensive. People die.
    How about freeways? Sure could. Costs too much. People die.
    Could we make the buildings in Seattle safer for the big one? Yep. Do we? Nope - there's a practical limit?
    How about our water supply? Do people die from lead or get illnesses? Yep. Why, because it costs too much to fix it?
    Are space heaters the safest way to heat your house? Nope. Do they cause fires and people die? Yup. Why? Because it's a cheap way to heat.

    We make tradeoffs all the time.

    I’ve seen you and Damone argue repeatedly that someone is saying no sacrifice is too great if it saves one life. Who the Hell is actually saying that?
    I showed you earlier today

    Cuomo for one. Biden for another
    Send them an invite then.

    They don’t really believe that, nor do they behave as if they really believe that. No one does.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,570 Standard Supporter
    We have the cure. I even posted the article earlier. Odd many aren't using it.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,525
    HHusky said:

    Weighing in here. The virus is a bad virus. Certainly not the flu. Tends to kill old fucks like Race.

    That said, social distancing seemed like a reasonable and effective measure. 6', wash your hands, etc. I could even get on board with closing schools for a while.

    Crashing the entire economy and shuttering virtually all businesses probably, in my opinion, was not needed. That's where the went too far. When the bodies don't stack up like cordwood in countries who didn't go as far as we did, that will be an interesting data point.

    For all you fuckers who say, no price is too high to pay to save a human life, go fuck yourselves. That's simply not true.

    Could we make cars more safe? Sure...but they'd be too damn expensive. People die.
    How about freeways? Sure could. Costs too much. People die.
    Could we make the buildings in Seattle safer for the big one? Yep. Do we? Nope - there's a practical limit?
    How about our water supply? Do people die from lead or get illnesses? Yep. Why, because it costs too much to fix it?
    Are space heaters the safest way to heat your house? Nope. Do they cause fires and people die? Yup. Why? Because it's a cheap way to heat.

    We make tradeoffs all the time.

    I’ve seen you and Damone argue repeatedly that someone is saying no sacrifice is too great if it saves one life. Who the Hell is actually saying that?
    You all seem just fine with high #s and crashing the country. I guess I'm inferring you're ok with that. It's pretty obvious even if you aren't saying it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,464 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Weighing in here. The virus is a bad virus. Certainly not the flu. Tends to kill old fucks like Race.

    That said, social distancing seemed like a reasonable and effective measure. 6', wash your hands, etc. I could even get on board with closing schools for a while.

    Crashing the entire economy and shuttering virtually all businesses probably, in my opinion, was not needed. That's where the went too far. When the bodies don't stack up like cordwood in countries who didn't go as far as we did, that will be an interesting data point.

    For all you fuckers who say, no price is too high to pay to save a human life, go fuck yourselves. That's simply not true.

    Could we make cars more safe? Sure...but they'd be too damn expensive. People die.
    How about freeways? Sure could. Costs too much. People die.
    Could we make the buildings in Seattle safer for the big one? Yep. Do we? Nope - there's a practical limit?
    How about our water supply? Do people die from lead or get illnesses? Yep. Why, because it costs too much to fix it?
    Are space heaters the safest way to heat your house? Nope. Do they cause fires and people die? Yup. Why? Because it's a cheap way to heat.

    We make tradeoffs all the time.

    I’ve seen you and Damone argue repeatedly that someone is saying no sacrifice is too great if it saves one life. Who the Hell is actually saying that?
    I showed you earlier today

    Cuomo for one. Biden for another
    Send them an invite then.

    They don’t really believe that, nor do they behave as if they really believe that. No one does.
    Fuck off. When Trump said let's get back by Easter the Democrats freaked out

    But they didn't mean it

    For fucks sake
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,334

    HHusky said:

    Weighing in here. The virus is a bad virus. Certainly not the flu. Tends to kill old fucks like Race.

    That said, social distancing seemed like a reasonable and effective measure. 6', wash your hands, etc. I could even get on board with closing schools for a while.

    Crashing the entire economy and shuttering virtually all businesses probably, in my opinion, was not needed. That's where the went too far. When the bodies don't stack up like cordwood in countries who didn't go as far as we did, that will be an interesting data point.

    For all you fuckers who say, no price is too high to pay to save a human life, go fuck yourselves. That's simply not true.

    Could we make cars more safe? Sure...but they'd be too damn expensive. People die.
    How about freeways? Sure could. Costs too much. People die.
    Could we make the buildings in Seattle safer for the big one? Yep. Do we? Nope - there's a practical limit?
    How about our water supply? Do people die from lead or get illnesses? Yep. Why, because it costs too much to fix it?
    Are space heaters the safest way to heat your house? Nope. Do they cause fires and people die? Yup. Why? Because it's a cheap way to heat.

    We make tradeoffs all the time.

    I’ve seen you and Damone argue repeatedly that someone is saying no sacrifice is too great if it saves one life. Who the Hell is actually saying that?
    You all seem just fine with high #s and crashing the country. I guess I'm inferring you're ok with that. It's pretty obvious even if you aren't saying it.
    You seem to be arguing that we should go ahead and have numbers that are multiples of what we’re seeing now and that somehow those numbers won’t “crash the country”. I’m skeptical. Convince me.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,525
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Weighing in here. The virus is a bad virus. Certainly not the flu. Tends to kill old fucks like Race.

    That said, social distancing seemed like a reasonable and effective measure. 6', wash your hands, etc. I could even get on board with closing schools for a while.

    Crashing the entire economy and shuttering virtually all businesses probably, in my opinion, was not needed. That's where the went too far. When the bodies don't stack up like cordwood in countries who didn't go as far as we did, that will be an interesting data point.

    For all you fuckers who say, no price is too high to pay to save a human life, go fuck yourselves. That's simply not true.

    Could we make cars more safe? Sure...but they'd be too damn expensive. People die.
    How about freeways? Sure could. Costs too much. People die.
    Could we make the buildings in Seattle safer for the big one? Yep. Do we? Nope - there's a practical limit?
    How about our water supply? Do people die from lead or get illnesses? Yep. Why, because it costs too much to fix it?
    Are space heaters the safest way to heat your house? Nope. Do they cause fires and people die? Yup. Why? Because it's a cheap way to heat.

    We make tradeoffs all the time.

    I’ve seen you and Damone argue repeatedly that someone is saying no sacrifice is too great if it saves one life. Who the Hell is actually saying that?
    You all seem just fine with high #s and crashing the country. I guess I'm inferring you're ok with that. It's pretty obvious even if you aren't saying it.
    You seem to be arguing that we should go ahead and have numbers that are multiples of what we’re seeing now and that somehow those numbers won’t “crash the country”. I’m skeptical. Convince me.
    I don't have the energy to debate this with you. Perhaps do a little reading, turn off Anderson Cooper, and think about what the government is **actually** doing. Then think about how necessary each of these measures actually are in reducing the death rate.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Social distancing appears to be working in other countries. That provides hope for death reductions here if we stay the course.

    Sorry you were disappointed.

    The original estimates were with social distancing dumbass.

    It’s getting close for you to stop cheerleading death and admit I (and grundlestilzkin) were right.
    And new data from countries practicing social distancing keeps coming in, dumbass.

    Admit the whole thing was a joke, like you said? Is that why you seem so lighthearted and happy?
    Sure - that's why they are dismantling the field hospital at Century Link. Purely social distancing. Riiiiight.

    Bullshit. The whole construction was a farce in the first place and a publicity ploy to instill fear in people. Seattle hospitals were NEVER at capacity nor were there contingent overflow facilities at capacity nor was there medical personnel staff available to staff said hoax field hospital even if they were full.

    Sham.


    So you think it's a joke?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    Weighing in here. The virus is a bad virus. Certainly not the flu. Tends to kill old fucks like Race.

    That said, social distancing seemed like a reasonable and effective measure. 6', wash your hands, etc. I could even get on board with closing schools for a while.

    Crashing the entire economy and shuttering virtually all businesses probably, in my opinion, was not needed. That's where the went too far. When the bodies don't stack up like cordwood in countries who didn't go as far as we did, that will be an interesting data point.

    For all you fuckers who say, no price is too high to pay to save a human life, go fuck yourselves. That's simply not true.

    Could we make cars more safe? Sure...but they'd be too damn expensive. People die.
    How about freeways? Sure could. Costs too much. People die.
    Could we make the buildings in Seattle safer for the big one? Yep. Do we? Nope - there's a practical limit?
    How about our water supply? Do people die from lead or get illnesses? Yep. Why, because it costs too much to fix it?
    Are space heaters the safest way to heat your house? Nope. Do they cause fires and people die? Yup. Why? Because it's a cheap way to heat.

    We make tradeoffs all the time.

    I’ve seen you and Damone argue repeatedly that someone is saying no sacrifice is too great if it saves one life. Who the Hell is actually saying that?
    Biden said it.

    Hth.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,525
    Not all mitigation factors have the same R0

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0037549715581637

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30567-5/fulltext

    We threw the kitchen sink at it to reduce R0. At the expense of the economy and 10s of millions of people's livelihood.

    Maybe we didn't need to throw the kitchen sink at it. We'll never know.

    Certainly, banning fishing had a very low impact on reduction of R0.