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Questioning my own assumptions

GrundleStiltzkin
GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
Per WA DOH, https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus Confirmed Cases / Deaths by Age

Age Group Percent of Cases Percent of Deaths
0-19 2% 0%
20-39 27% 1%
40-59 34% 7%
60-79 26% 38%
80+ 10% 55%
Unknown 1% 0%
I'd been relying on the high communicability figure of COVID. It's the "fact" that seems to have varied the least over time. However, looking at 0-19 cohort having only 2% of cases, yet also a group that spends huge amounts of time in close contact with others, maybe it isn't as contagious.




Or, perhaps, they just don't get symptoms worthy of testing, and I was even righter, as I always tend to be.

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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,623 Founders Club
    Yep, way more immunity out there than anyone realizes. 90% sure I had this back in late January. I want my gold star to carry on.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    School age kids would be an interesting group for pseudo-random antibody testing.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,003

    School age kids would be an interesting group for pseudo-random antibody testing.

    For STD's or the Covid?

    Whynotboth.gif?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Oh, another thing I was right about, the adverse outcomes of mass amounts of kids out of school and possibly unsupervised will be greater than the risk of in-school COVID exposure.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,672 Founders Club
    I’m hearing all the amazon delivery strikers are about to get replaced with 13yos on bikes
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,567 Standard Supporter

    Oh, another thing I was right about, the adverse outcomes of mass amounts of kids out of school and possibly unsupervised will be greater than the risk of in-school COVID exposure.

    They shut down playgrounds here, which actually does make some sense.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    Oh, another thing I was right about, the adverse outcomes of mass amounts of kids out of school and possibly unsupervised will be greater than the risk of in-school COVID exposure.

    They shut down playgrounds here, which actually does make some sense.
    Is N95 Mask Shaming a thing down there yet? It is in Seattle. The Most Nukeable city in the US.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,567 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2020

    Oh, another thing I was right about, the adverse outcomes of mass amounts of kids out of school and possibly unsupervised will be greater than the risk of in-school COVID exposure.

    They shut down playgrounds here, which actually does make some sense.
    Is N95 Mask Shaming a thing down there yet? It is in Seattle. The Most Nukeable city in the US.
    I was in Fry's (supermarket) and about 35 percent have masks. I don't own a mask and I'm not going to buy one.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2020

    Oh, another thing I was right about, the adverse outcomes of mass amounts of kids out of school and possibly unsupervised will be greater than the risk of in-school COVID exposure.

    They shut down playgrounds here, which actually does make some sense.
    Is N95 Mask Shaming a thing down there yet? It is in Seattle. The Most Nukeable city in the US.
    I was in Fry's (supermarket) and about 35 percent have masks. I don't own a mask and I'm not going to buy one.
    The long distance woman I was screwing who lives somewhere in SW WA wore some ridiculous mask with Indian feathers on it to the store. She scoffed when I suggested her daughter could have a couple of friends over for the birfday party. How careless of me. Even Jay allows that.
    When the country is 50 million short, or something like that, it's really important for ugly, unattractive Seattle people with bad teeth and breath to lecture people wearing a mask about how doctors need them all and wearing one is killing someone else's loved one.

    Yes. This City has people that fucking Stupid.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,567 Standard Supporter

    Oh, another thing I was right about, the adverse outcomes of mass amounts of kids out of school and possibly unsupervised will be greater than the risk of in-school COVID exposure.

    They shut down playgrounds here, which actually does make some sense.
    Is N95 Mask Shaming a thing down there yet? It is in Seattle. The Most Nukeable city in the US.
    I was in Fry's (supermarket) and about 35 percent have masks. I don't own a mask and I'm not going to buy one.
    The long distance woman I was screwing who lives somewhere in SW WA wore some ridiculous mask with Indian feathers on it to the store. She scoffed when I suggested her daughter could have a couple of friends over for the birfday party. How careless of me. Even Jay allows that.
    When the country is 50 million short, or something like that, it's really important for ugly, unattractive Seattle people with bad teeth and breath to lecture people wearing a mask about how doctors need them all and wearing one is killing someone else's loved one.

    Yes. This City has people that fucking Stupid.
    I can't stand what Seattle has become. It was okay when I was a kid decades ago. As stupid as people are here (three turned left as a fire truck was coming the other day), it still beats Seattle.

    Masks supposedly slow the spread. But since there are wildly variable numbers on this and the media and politicians lie constantly, who knows what the real numbers are. Some cuntries only count COVID deaths when it's the sole cause. I trust them. I won't cough or sneeze on people. How about that?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,567 Standard Supporter
    Most hospitals have supplies. Most hospitals are dead and laying off people or furloughing them. The wave is coming. Just like it was supposed to come last week. Or maybe it'll be next week. Oh, it never came? Well thank god Governor KOMO or Governor Inslee flattened the curve. What heros. It WOULD have come and people WOULD HAVE DIED.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    At least we're tallying accurate numbers so that we can learn from the pandemic.

    As of this writing, there are 7,810 deaths in the United States attributed to the pandemic. More than 7,000 Americans die every single day, on average, of everything. Over the course of this pandemic, this has amounted to a noticeable but still mild uptick above that average over the course of it. Add to that the directive from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to count any death tangentially related to COVID-19, and you have to wonder if that number actually holds. That directive reads, “COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.” (The emphasis in bolding is theirs.)
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,667 Founders Club
    edited April 2020
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,623 Founders Club
    edited April 2020
    Well never get the truth on any of this. Would be super interesting to know of the people that have contracted, did they also have a recent flu shot etc. obviously it would wouldn’t have directly healed anyone, but the combination of regular flu plus corona probably isn’t great and worse than either assuming only one or the other. Does the flu get a similar method of score keeping in a regular year? The numbers are never going to get sorted through I’m sure.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    It's not a bad idea. Germany and the Czechs are doing it and it seems to be helping. I always have a bunch of N95s cause I do a lot of dusty shit on the weekends, sometimes, and a box of 10 or 20 is way cheaper per mask than 3 at a time.

    Somehow I don't think I'm paralyzing Harborview's ability to treat patients by wearing one, but Seattle's dumbasses on Nextdoor and Facebook say I'm the Devil.

    Is it any wonder Seattle's population reads so many books? Social Retards love to Read, cause they can't socialize for shit.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,869
    Complaining about the refs now?

    Scoreboard baby!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,003

    Oh, another thing I was right about, the adverse outcomes of mass amounts of kids out of school and possibly unsupervised will be greater than the risk of in-school COVID exposure.

    They shut down playgrounds here, which actually does make some sense.
    Is N95 Mask Shaming a thing down there yet? It is in Seattle. The Most Nukeable city in the US.
    I was in Fry's (supermarket) and about 35 percent have masks. I don't own a mask and I'm not going to buy one.



    The Throbber picked up a mask so he can operate behind progressive lines when hell breaks looks. Practicing my AAAARRGGHH!! MEAN ORANGE MAN! screams if needed.


  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,003
    edited April 2020

    It's not a bad idea. Germany and the Czechs are doing it and it seems to be helping. I always have a bunch of N95s cause I do a lot of dusty shit on the weekends, sometimes, and a box of 10 or 20 is way cheaper per mask than 3 at a time.

    Somehow I don't think I'm paralyzing Harborview's ability to treat patients by wearing one, but Seattle's dumbasses on Nextdoor and Facebook say I'm the Devil.

    Is it any wonder Seattle's population reads so many books? Social Retards love to Read, cause they can't socialize for shit.

    What is Harborview's occupancy rate right now, by the way?

    Has there been any disclosure of beds occupied?

    Axing for a fren. Honest inquiry - too lazy to search it.



  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    It's not a bad idea. Germany and the Czechs are doing it and it seems to be helping. I always have a bunch of N95s cause I do a lot of dusty shit on the weekends, sometimes, and a box of 10 or 20 is way cheaper per mask than 3 at a time.

    Somehow I don't think I'm paralyzing Harborview's ability to treat patients by wearing one, but Seattle's dumbasses on Nextdoor and Facebook say I'm the Devil.

    Is it any wonder Seattle's population reads so many books? Social Retards love to Read, cause they can't socialize for shit.

    I found a box of 15 in my earthquake kit and they are staying with us.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    It's not a bad idea. Germany and the Czechs are doing it and it seems to be helping. I always have a bunch of N95s cause I do a lot of dusty shit on the weekends, sometimes, and a box of 10 or 20 is way cheaper per mask than 3 at a time.

    Somehow I don't think I'm paralyzing Harborview's ability to treat patients by wearing one, but Seattle's dumbasses on Nextdoor and Facebook say I'm the Devil.

    Is it any wonder Seattle's population reads so many books? Social Retards love to Read, cause they can't socialize for shit.

    I found a box of 15 in my earthquake kit and they are staying with us.
    Found the hater of heroes ^^
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,869

    It's not a bad idea. Germany and the Czechs are doing it and it seems to be helping. I always have a bunch of N95s cause I do a lot of dusty shit on the weekends, sometimes, and a box of 10 or 20 is way cheaper per mask than 3 at a time.

    Somehow I don't think I'm paralyzing Harborview's ability to treat patients by wearing one, but Seattle's dumbasses on Nextdoor and Facebook say I'm the Devil.

    Is it any wonder Seattle's population reads so many books? Social Retards love to Read, cause they can't socialize for shit.

    Imagine everyone’s surprise at learning Turd isn’t a reader.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2020
    HHusky said:


    Is it any wonder Seattle's population reads so many books? Social Retards love to Read, cause they can't socialize for shit.

    Imagine everyone’s surprise at learning Turd isn’t a reader.
    Walked yourself right into that one, Retard.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2020
    Confirmed Cases / Deaths by Age

    Age Group Percent of Cases Percent of Deaths
    0-19 2% 0%
    20-39 27% 1%
    40-59 34% 7%
    60-79 26% 38%
    80+ 10% 55%
    Unknown 1% 0%

    February 27, 2020: Bothell High School closed for two days, staff member returned from international travel and companion on trip became sick.
    https://www.kuow.org/stories/bothell-high-school-closed-over-covid-19-concern
    February 28, 2020: Suspected sick person tests negative.
    https://www.bellevuereporter.com/news/family-member-of-bothell-high-staffer-tests-negative-for-covid-19/




    February 28, 2020: Jackson High School closed after student tests positive.
    https://www.heraldnet.com/news/mariner-high-school-students-father-dies-of-coronavirus/
    Re-opens March 3
    While no other students had fallen ill as of Tuesday afternoon, custodians in the district have made cleaning touchpoints a high priority and been verifying that each classroom has a cleaner for wiping down surfaces such as desks and tables.

    https://districtadministration.com/coronavirus-covid-19-washington-disinfect-closes-schools/




    March 2, 2020: Mariner High School closed after "close contact of a student became infected with the virus and died."
    https://www.heraldnet.com/news/mariner-high-school-students-father-dies-of-coronavirus/




    March 2, 2020: Kingston High School closed with student tests positive.
    https://komonews.com/news/local/5-school-close-monday-for-cleanings-over-coronavirus-concerns




    March 4, 2020: All Monroe schools closed after two elementary students were exposed to COVID
    https://q13fox.com/2020/03/04/monroe-schools-closed-thursday-for-sanitization-coronavirus-preparations/
    Today we learned that two of our students at Fryelands Elementary were possibly exposed to the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) last week. The two students began showing symptoms of illness over the weekend and have not been at school this week. With a possible exposure and symptoms present, both students have been tested for the coronavirus and are awaiting results. The two ill students have older siblings also living in the home who attend Hidden River Middle School and Monroe High School. The older siblings do not currently have symptoms of the illness and as of today, their parent has indicated that they will stay home from school as a precaution until their younger siblings' test results come back.

    https://www.monroe.wednet.edu/about/news/new-page/~post/coronavirus-update-3420-20200304



    Jackson High School's cafeteria is 7500 square feet. It's student body is roughly 2,200. Between common practice of rotating lunch periods and occupancy standards, the cafeteria might be occupied by 500 students concurrently at one student per 15 sq. ft. density. Certainly not all of the 7500 is student accessible, and not an entire fourth of the student body will use the cafeteria, so let's just go with 15ft2. Of course, that is only one point of close contact during a school day.

    The 6-foot social distancing guideline converts to a one person per 144ft2 density.

    My question, and it's a real one, not a Tug Question™. Where are the outbreaks around these high schools?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,667 Founders Club
    Pretty sure that tug posters are applying better analysis than Inslee