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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    Honestly, I want to learn more (that is, any) about this. Complete blank spot for me.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,151 Swaye's Wigwam

    Honestly, I want to learn more (that is, any) about this. Complete blank spot for me.

    I'll try to sauce some more accessible content later but for now just realize the US is in a good position to drop a fat stimulus bill without hurting our debt load much at all.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,068
    I just sat on the phone for a full hour with the controller and the managing director of a hospital in New York who we already shipped 35000 masks to wire us the payment. These idiots have lost their minds.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,126 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    salemcoog said:

    Swaye said:

    I still don't get it. Going to need to really spell this out for the dumb red.

    We just basically had a forcible take over of the world economy. The US Fed is now the world's central bank. Anyone who doesn't play ball is going to be bent over and have the plunger inserted until it hits the back of their nasal cavity from the wrong direction.
    So what tactics can be used to hurt China? They are our true enemy, I do know our economies are co dependent and so we don't want to wreck them. But how do we make them feel pain economically without hurting ourselves in the process.

    They need greenbacks to run their economy. It already was hurting them. Now it will even more. We can charge them a premium for every dollar they need to conduct business on the world market.

    This is precisely what Russia and China didn't want.

    This is similar to after WW2 where the world economy was wrecked except for the US and we established the dollar as the reserve currency of "the west" but back then we had to have gold to back it.
    What a great move to move to a fiat currency from gold. Brilliant!!

    The Don had all the intel they needed about the virus late December. This was a bigger plan to crumble the economy. Mass surveillance is coming. Facial recognition is in Washington.

    You want to jackoff trump for cutting flights from china go for it. The federal response is and was garbage. It was clearly on purpose.


    How could we ever have enough gold at this point in the game to back up US currency? Plus the Chi Coms would just fuck it all up anyhow.




  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,169 Swaye's Wigwam

    I just sat on the phone for a full hour with the controller and the managing director of a hospital in New York who we already shipped 35000 masks to wire us the payment. These idiots have lost their minds.

    You have to talk to customers? T's and P's man.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,242
    I expected more of a reaction from the Dow. Maybe the big reaction is it didn't go in the shitter again today.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    I still don't get it. Going to need to really spell this out for the dumb red.

    As a drunken frat boy from a middling institution who majored in finance.....


    USA rules.
    Finally, something I can understand.


    How can I put this, it's like we sold someone our rolex at a premium and now in the financial crisis they are short dollars so they are selling us back the rolex at a discount. And even then, it's like we are giving them rez casino tokens instead while laughing in their face.

    Edit:oh right, and everyone in the whole trailer park is lining up to get this deal.
    But are the people piloting this move diverse in nature?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,151 Swaye's Wigwam
    salemcoog said:

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    I still don't get it. Going to need to really spell this out for the dumb red.

    As a drunken frat boy from a middling institution who majored in finance.....


    USA rules.
    Finally, something I can understand.


    How can I put this, it's like we sold someone our rolex at a premium and now in the financial crisis they are short dollars so they are selling us back the rolex at a discount. And even then, it's like we are giving them rez casino tokens instead while laughing in their face.

    Edit:oh right, and everyone in the whole trailer park is lining up to get this deal.
    But are the people piloting this move diverse in nature?
    The Fed is as old and white as the CIA. The difference is that they aren't a bunch of communists.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,615 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    I still don't get it. Going to need to really spell this out for the dumb red.

    I’m with him.

    Just spent 20 minutes debating if the grandma I was shopping for would prefer to replace her out of stock buttermilk flaky biscuits with original flaky or buttermilk southern style.

    Is she more concerned with texture or flavor?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,126 Founders Club

    @YellowSnow you don't get the full import. This is big dick, the sun never sets, we are the Alabama of economics thank you george Washington shit.

    That "stimulus" we just released was a fraction of the debt we can now borrow at essentially a zero rate. Hello leverage.

    We essentially just had the biggest IPO in history and people were burning their own money just to get a piece.

    Lol at Russia and the CCP and their attempts to dump dollars.

    Who fucking knows if the US is still smart enough to reap the fruits of this responsibly but this is a Godfather taking over moment.

    Rebuild the bridges, dams and shit.

    NineG internet NOW!

    Step on their motherfucking throat. USA! USA! USA! is good at this finance shit.

    Then invade Venezuela because the Throbber needs to see some Voobs when the travel ban is lifted.


    I want the microchips all made here. This is first and foremost.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,786 Standard Supporter

    @YellowSnow you don't get the full import. This is big dick, the sun never sets, we are the Alabama of economics thank you george Washington shit.

    That "stimulus" we just released was a fraction of the debt we can now borrow at essentially a zero rate. Hello leverage.

    We essentially just had the biggest IPO in history and people were burning their own money just to get a piece.

    Lol at Russia and the CCP and their attempts to dump dollars.

    Who fucking knows if the US is still smart enough to reap the fruits of this responsibly but this is a Godfather taking over moment.

    Rebuild the bridges, dams and shit.

    NineG internet NOW!

    Step on their motherfucking throat. USA! USA! USA! is good at this finance shit.

    Then invade Venezuela because the Throbber needs to see some Voobs when the travel ban is lifted.


    I want the microchips all made here. This is first and foremost.
    Microchips and medical for sure. Telecom as well - fuck Huwai's weakass 5G....we can do better, like 55G.

    Food supply is critical as well.

    May as well just claim everything down to Venezuela. No reason to venture into Brazil because the porn bush is coming back and we don't need that B-wax shit in the new world.

    Costa Rica, Panama, Belize....all sweet vacay spots. Fire up the cruise liners and travel industry again.

  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    dflea said:

    I expected more of a reaction from the Dow. Maybe the big reaction is it didn't go in the shitter again today.

    Pretty sure most of this was already in place. A couple of weeks ago they expanded the list of currencies/countries and this week expanded it further (thus the reaction largely baked in?).
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,151 Swaye's Wigwam
    dflea said:

    I expected more of a reaction from the Dow. Maybe the big reaction is it didn't go in the shitter again today.

    TBF this isn't a super change from the norm. As I've said many times, the US is the world reserve currency. The difference is that this crisis has solidified it's position as that and the FED is now openly acknowledging that instead of pretending otherwise. They have now made it easy to swap treasuries for dollars to create certainty in the world market for US treasuries. The only thing is, you are going to take a .25 shaving off as a premium.

    It boils down to the Fed is flexing it's muscles early rather than late in this crisis.

    Where else are people going to put their money now? Euros? Rubles? RMB? Oil? Bitcoin? Lol.

    Barring the American people voting for a socialist(could happen) the US should be the world reserve currency for another twenty years at least after this.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,575 Founders Club
    edited April 2020
    dflea said:

    I expected more of a reaction from the Dow. Maybe the big reaction is it didn't go in the shitter again today.

    It jumped early on some oil deal between the Saudis and Ruskies. Fell back on historically bad unemployment and the usual shit we face these days. So far 19,000 has held as the bottom as we seem to be playing in the 21,000 range. I may open up a hedge fund.

    In other news gas prices are falling below 3$ a gallon in California even with the onerous taxes here. Too bad we aren't supposed to drive anywhere
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,423 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    Swaye said:

    I still don't get it. Going to need to really spell this out for the dumb red.

    We just basically had a forcible take over of the world economy. The US Fed is now the world's central bank. Anyone who doesn't play ball is going to be bent over and have the plunger inserted until it hits the back of their nasal cavity from the wrong direction.
    So what tactics can be used to hurt China? They are our true enemy, I do know our economies are co dependent and so we don't want to wreck them. But how do we make them feel pain economically without hurting ourselves in the process.

    After they most likely released the virus accidental or otherwise we should wipe all out China debt off the books as a starter for the damage they have caused us.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,786 Standard Supporter

    dflea said:

    I expected more of a reaction from the Dow. Maybe the big reaction is it didn't go in the shitter again today.

    It jumped early on some oil deal between the Saudis and Ruskies. Fell back on historically bad unemployment and the usual shit we face these days. So far 19,000 has held as the bottom as we seem to be playing in the 21,000 range. I may open up a hedge fund.

    In other news gas prices are falling below 3$ a gallon in California even with the onerous taxes here. Too bad we aren't supposed to drive anywhere
    Like I said, step on their motherfucking throat.

    No taxes, no revenue. NO revenue, no POS Cali state programs for the non-productive.

    When the Feds come in to save their ass, the price is gonna be steep.

    See also The Throbber's manifesto on structuring financings. @creepycoug and I are available for consulting on how to fuck/not get fucked for a reasonable exhorbitant consulting fee.

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