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Virginia lockdown extended for 2 1/2 more months

MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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https://wamu.org/story/20/03/30/northam-to-order-virginia-residents-to-stay-at-home/

Common sense is in desperately low supply.

At some point, whether or not we've precipitated a cascade of societal collapse from which we cannot hope to recover for decades, we will be forced to leave our homes and live our lives.

At that point, a virus that is as contagious as a head cold and has been suppressed only by unnatural and unsustainable suppression of human activity will necessarily surge among the active, working-age and school-age part of the population.

Most of these cases will be mild; recoverable without medical intervention. If China Virus is as contagious as the common cold, its eventual spread through the general population is inevitable.

We must then take extraordinary measures to protect those who have existing conditions which compromise lung and/or immune-system function.

We must eventually accept that a virus passed as easily as a head cold calls for focuses protection for those susceptible to serious cases rather than attempts to prevent the more mild cases.

A sane course of action will eventually be forced on us by practical reality.

How much are we willing to destroy before we arrive at this inevitable point?
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,230
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    I think the key phrase is 'at some point'. The question is 'when' is that 'at some point'?

    I've been earmarking April 6 as kind of the baseline data point to assess just WTF is happening. We already have historical data that 12,469 people died from H1N1 and we? didn't do jack shit. I had to have my daughter remind me that she got a really bad case of the flu that year - but we never seriously considered she had Swine Flu...suck it up and rub some dirt on it, sweetheart.

    The Throbber Casino set the initial line at 5,000 dead. Sucked in a few with the under, sucked in a few with the over. (See how that works, @Hhusky? The house ALWAYS wins and then resets the line because MAFF and shit based on data not TDS hatred).

    In a little over two weeks, it looks like the Trump Cocktail (not pool cleaner, you dicks, actual medicine) is probably the right path to save the most afflicted. So fire that shit up and get more produced -Murica! It's what we do. Just saw this morning that GM is stepping up ventilator production. Give them a couple weeks and they'll pump those fuckers out like candy. Not all that worried medium term in the US ability to innovate and produce. It's not like we're? a bunch of sniveling Frenchies sucking on clove cigarettes and bemoaning truffles v. cheese or some shit.

    I guess what it comes down to is - are you on Team America Kicks Ass and we figure it out simultaneously as individuals (wash your fucking hands) and capitalists (see above ventilators, masks being sewn by god knows how many seamstresses around the country) or you are on Team Woe is Me/Bad Orange Man/Do Something? Choose wisely because you'll probably die sucking your thumb sitting in a corner. You probably would have anyway because but but Trump.

    I happen to think Team America Kicks Ass is in full on kick ass mode about 3 weeks from now.



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    Always be the bank always.

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,302
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    Swaye said:

    I think the key phrase is 'at some point'. The question is 'when' is that 'at some point'?

    I've been earmarking April 6 as kind of the baseline data point to assess just WTF is happening. We already have historical data that 12,469 people died from H1N1 and we? didn't do jack shit. I had to have my daughter remind me that she got a really bad case of the flu that year - but we never seriously considered she had Swine Flu...suck it up and rub some dirt on it, sweetheart.

    The Throbber Casino set the initial line at 5,000 dead. Sucked in a few with the under, sucked in a few with the over. (See how that works, @Hhusky? The house ALWAYS wins and then resets the line because MAFF and shit based on data not TDS hatred).

    In a little over two weeks, it looks like the Trump Cocktail (not pool cleaner, you dicks, actual medicine) is probably the right path to save the most afflicted. So fire that shit up and get more produced -Murica! It's what we do. Just saw this morning that GM is stepping up ventilator production. Give them a couple weeks and they'll pump those fuckers out like candy. Not all that worried medium term in the US ability to innovate and produce. It's not like we're? a bunch of sniveling Frenchies sucking on clove cigarettes and bemoaning truffles v. cheese or some shit.

    I guess what it comes down to is - are you on Team America Kicks Ass and we figure it out simultaneously as individuals (wash your fucking hands) and capitalists (see above ventilators, masks being sewn by god knows how many seamstresses around the country) or you are on Team Woe is Me/Bad Orange Man/Do Something? Choose wisely because you'll probably die sucking your thumb sitting in a corner. You probably would have anyway because but but Trump.

    I happen to think Team America Kicks Ass is in full on kick ass mode about 3 weeks from now.



    Agree. If this is happening on June 10th the effort required for enforcement will be insane and I can easily foresee violence. Even neighbors turning on neighbors as the Gladys Kravitz types report people for having a birthday party and said neighbor decides it's time to settle her hash.

    Also, there will a lot more black market/underground activity going on. That is inevitable.
    By June 10th there will be riots at the fucking Safeway man. There is no real food left on shelves. We are two months away from Road Warrior.
    There was a noticeable ominous tone last week at the grocery store compared to the week before. We haven't gone this week yet. The only positive is that the booze is well stocked. And weed dispensaries are delivering

    And we are in the sticks as far as California is concerned. Spread out. As you can see from the daily tote board Riverside County is doing well other than shooting ourselves in the foot and causing panic buying
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,482
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    Swaye said:

    I think the key phrase is 'at some point'. The question is 'when' is that 'at some point'?

    I've been earmarking April 6 as kind of the baseline data point to assess just WTF is happening. We already have historical data that 12,469 people died from H1N1 and we? didn't do jack shit. I had to have my daughter remind me that she got a really bad case of the flu that year - but we never seriously considered she had Swine Flu...suck it up and rub some dirt on it, sweetheart.

    The Throbber Casino set the initial line at 5,000 dead. Sucked in a few with the under, sucked in a few with the over. (See how that works, @Hhusky? The house ALWAYS wins and then resets the line because MAFF and shit based on data not TDS hatred).

    In a little over two weeks, it looks like the Trump Cocktail (not pool cleaner, you dicks, actual medicine) is probably the right path to save the most afflicted. So fire that shit up and get more produced -Murica! It's what we do. Just saw this morning that GM is stepping up ventilator production. Give them a couple weeks and they'll pump those fuckers out like candy. Not all that worried medium term in the US ability to innovate and produce. It's not like we're? a bunch of sniveling Frenchies sucking on clove cigarettes and bemoaning truffles v. cheese or some shit.

    I guess what it comes down to is - are you on Team America Kicks Ass and we figure it out simultaneously as individuals (wash your fucking hands) and capitalists (see above ventilators, masks being sewn by god knows how many seamstresses around the country) or you are on Team Woe is Me/Bad Orange Man/Do Something? Choose wisely because you'll probably die sucking your thumb sitting in a corner. You probably would have anyway because but but Trump.

    I happen to think Team America Kicks Ass is in full on kick ass mode about 3 weeks from now.



    Agree. If this is happening on June 10th the effort required for enforcement will be insane and I can easily foresee violence. Even neighbors turning on neighbors as the Gladys Kravitz types report people for having a birthday party and said neighbor decides it's time to settle her hash.

    Also, there will a lot more black market/underground activity going on. That is inevitable.
    By June 10th there will be riots at the fucking Safeway man. There is no real food left on shelves. We are two months away from Road Warrior.
    My money—if I had any left—is on @Swaye in that fracas. And no one will use more of that border collie.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,753
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    I pretty much covered this yesterday.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    salemcoog said:

    I pretty much covered this yesterday.

    I'd rather be right than first.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,753
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    salemcoog said:

    I pretty much covered this yesterday.

    I'd rather be right than first.
    I'm both.





    Unfortunately.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,356
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    https://wamu.org/story/20/03/30/northam-to-order-virginia-residents-to-stay-at-home/

    Common sense is in desperately low supply.

    At some point, whether or not we've precipitated a cascade of societal collapse from which we cannot hope to recover for decades, we will be forced to leave our homes and live our lives.

    At that point, a virus that is as contagious as a head cold and has been suppressed only by unnatural and unsustainable suppression of human activity will necessarily surge among the active, working-age and school-age part of the population.

    Most of these cases will be mild; recoverable without medical intervention. If China Virus is as contagious as the common cold, its eventual spread through the general population is inevitable.

    We must then take extraordinary measures to protect those who have existing conditions which compromise lung and/or immune-system function.

    We must eventually accept that a virus passed as easily as a head cold calls for focuses protection for those susceptible to serious cases rather than attempts to prevent the more mild cases.

    A sane course of action will eventually be forced on us by practical reality.

    How much are we willing to destroy before we arrive at this inevitable point?

    Helps the Tug imo.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,669
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    I thought the tp crisis was over. They have it at the gas station i go to on the way from work
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    Swaye said:

    I think the key phrase is 'at some point'. The question is 'when' is that 'at some point'?

    I've been earmarking April 6 as kind of the baseline data point to assess just WTF is happening. We already have historical data that 12,469 people died from H1N1 and we? didn't do jack shit. I had to have my daughter remind me that she got a really bad case of the flu that year - but we never seriously considered she had Swine Flu...suck it up and rub some dirt on it, sweetheart.

    The Throbber Casino set the initial line at 5,000 dead. Sucked in a few with the under, sucked in a few with the over. (See how that works, @Hhusky? The house ALWAYS wins and then resets the line because MAFF and shit based on data not TDS hatred).

    In a little over two weeks, it looks like the Trump Cocktail (not pool cleaner, you dicks, actual medicine) is probably the right path to save the most afflicted. So fire that shit up and get more produced -Murica! It's what we do. Just saw this morning that GM is stepping up ventilator production. Give them a couple weeks and they'll pump those fuckers out like candy. Not all that worried medium term in the US ability to innovate and produce. It's not like we're? a bunch of sniveling Frenchies sucking on clove cigarettes and bemoaning truffles v. cheese or some shit.

    I guess what it comes down to is - are you on Team America Kicks Ass and we figure it out simultaneously as individuals (wash your fucking hands) and capitalists (see above ventilators, masks being sewn by god knows how many seamstresses around the country) or you are on Team Woe is Me/Bad Orange Man/Do Something? Choose wisely because you'll probably die sucking your thumb sitting in a corner. You probably would have anyway because but but Trump.

    I happen to think Team America Kicks Ass is in full on kick ass mode about 3 weeks from now.



    Agree. If this is happening on June 10th the effort required for enforcement will be insane and I can easily foresee violence. Even neighbors turning on neighbors as the Gladys Kravitz types report people for having a birthday party and said neighbor decides it's time to settle her hash.

    Also, there will a lot more black market/underground activity going on. That is inevitable.
    By June 10th there will be riots at the fucking Safeway man. There is no real food left on shelves. We are two months away from Road Warrior.
    There was a noticeable ominous tone last week at the grocery store compared to the week before. We haven't gone this week yet. The only positive is that the booze is well stocked. And weed dispensaries are delivering

    And we are in the sticks as far as California is concerned. Spread out. As you can see from the daily tote board Riverside County is doing well other than shooting ourselves in the foot and causing panic buying
    Where the fuck are you guys shopping? I was in Costco yesterday morning because i was told that was the best time to get paper towels and the place was fully stocked.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,669
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    The CLS saga will be over about 6 months ahead of time
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,302
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    SFGbob said:

    Swaye said:

    I think the key phrase is 'at some point'. The question is 'when' is that 'at some point'?

    I've been earmarking April 6 as kind of the baseline data point to assess just WTF is happening. We already have historical data that 12,469 people died from H1N1 and we? didn't do jack shit. I had to have my daughter remind me that she got a really bad case of the flu that year - but we never seriously considered she had Swine Flu...suck it up and rub some dirt on it, sweetheart.

    The Throbber Casino set the initial line at 5,000 dead. Sucked in a few with the under, sucked in a few with the over. (See how that works, @Hhusky? The house ALWAYS wins and then resets the line because MAFF and shit based on data not TDS hatred).

    In a little over two weeks, it looks like the Trump Cocktail (not pool cleaner, you dicks, actual medicine) is probably the right path to save the most afflicted. So fire that shit up and get more produced -Murica! It's what we do. Just saw this morning that GM is stepping up ventilator production. Give them a couple weeks and they'll pump those fuckers out like candy. Not all that worried medium term in the US ability to innovate and produce. It's not like we're? a bunch of sniveling Frenchies sucking on clove cigarettes and bemoaning truffles v. cheese or some shit.

    I guess what it comes down to is - are you on Team America Kicks Ass and we figure it out simultaneously as individuals (wash your fucking hands) and capitalists (see above ventilators, masks being sewn by god knows how many seamstresses around the country) or you are on Team Woe is Me/Bad Orange Man/Do Something? Choose wisely because you'll probably die sucking your thumb sitting in a corner. You probably would have anyway because but but Trump.

    I happen to think Team America Kicks Ass is in full on kick ass mode about 3 weeks from now.



    Agree. If this is happening on June 10th the effort required for enforcement will be insane and I can easily foresee violence. Even neighbors turning on neighbors as the Gladys Kravitz types report people for having a birthday party and said neighbor decides it's time to settle her hash.

    Also, there will a lot more black market/underground activity going on. That is inevitable.
    By June 10th there will be riots at the fucking Safeway man. There is no real food left on shelves. We are two months away from Road Warrior.
    There was a noticeable ominous tone last week at the grocery store compared to the week before. We haven't gone this week yet. The only positive is that the booze is well stocked. And weed dispensaries are delivering

    And we are in the sticks as far as California is concerned. Spread out. As you can see from the daily tote board Riverside County is doing well other than shooting ourselves in the foot and causing panic buying
    Where the fuck are you guys shopping? I was in Costco yesterday morning because i was told that was the best time to get paper towels and the place was fully stocked.
    Albertsons

    But they got fired last week by the boss so its Ralphs this week

    The Temecula Costco has a line just to get in the parking lot
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Swaye said:

    I think the key phrase is 'at some point'. The question is 'when' is that 'at some point'?

    I've been earmarking April 6 as kind of the baseline data point to assess just WTF is happening. We already have historical data that 12,469 people died from H1N1 and we? didn't do jack shit. I had to have my daughter remind me that she got a really bad case of the flu that year - but we never seriously considered she had Swine Flu...suck it up and rub some dirt on it, sweetheart.

    The Throbber Casino set the initial line at 5,000 dead. Sucked in a few with the under, sucked in a few with the over. (See how that works, @Hhusky? The house ALWAYS wins and then resets the line because MAFF and shit based on data not TDS hatred).

    In a little over two weeks, it looks like the Trump Cocktail (not pool cleaner, you dicks, actual medicine) is probably the right path to save the most afflicted. So fire that shit up and get more produced -Murica! It's what we do. Just saw this morning that GM is stepping up ventilator production. Give them a couple weeks and they'll pump those fuckers out like candy. Not all that worried medium term in the US ability to innovate and produce. It's not like we're? a bunch of sniveling Frenchies sucking on clove cigarettes and bemoaning truffles v. cheese or some shit.

    I guess what it comes down to is - are you on Team America Kicks Ass and we figure it out simultaneously as individuals (wash your fucking hands) and capitalists (see above ventilators, masks being sewn by god knows how many seamstresses around the country) or you are on Team Woe is Me/Bad Orange Man/Do Something? Choose wisely because you'll probably die sucking your thumb sitting in a corner. You probably would have anyway because but but Trump.

    I happen to think Team America Kicks Ass is in full on kick ass mode about 3 weeks from now.



    Agree. If this is happening on June 10th the effort required for enforcement will be insane and I can easily foresee violence. Even neighbors turning on neighbors as the Gladys Kravitz types report people for having a birthday party and said neighbor decides it's time to settle her hash.

    Also, there will a lot more black market/underground activity going on. That is inevitable.
    By June 10th there will be riots at the fucking Safeway man. There is no real food left on shelves. We are two months away from Road Warrior.
    There was a noticeable ominous tone last week at the grocery store compared to the week before. We haven't gone this week yet. The only positive is that the booze is well stocked. And weed dispensaries are delivering

    And we are in the sticks as far as California is concerned. Spread out. As you can see from the daily tote board Riverside County is doing well other than shooting ourselves in the foot and causing panic buying
    Was at the grocery store Sunday afternoon. My normal checker dude says "hey, you want some TP?"....like it was some kind of contraband, secret shit. He wanders over by the customer service desk and comes back with a 12 pack of ultra strong store brand. Now, normally I wouldn't be caught dead with store brand...Ride or Die with Charmin, bitches. But I felt like I'd won the goddamned Super Bowl and could return to the GNR Compound as a mighty hunter bagging an elk for survival meat. Didn't get a celebratory handie so I was kind of disappointed but I could feel the pride exuding off Mrs. Throbber v2.0. It was either pride exuding off her or that goddamned Chanel No. 5 she picks up when she goes to visit "friends", you know. You'd think social distancing would include laying off the side piece (I'm on to you, @Doog_de_Jour - just wash your hands a bunch, k?)

    It was a very weird vibe in the store that day. People shuffling around, hardly saying a word. Like they know the end is near or this might be their last time in Albertsons. Just a completely surreal experience. Not quite sure how to explain it but it was almost like people were sizing one another up. The Throbber is not a small weak man so aside from a weapon, not too worried about out-wrestling 90% of the folks out there for a can of garbanzo beans but I don't really want to have to get to that point. Like Michael says, I'm a lover not a fighter. But don't confuse kindness with weakness - I'd choke a bitch out for some protein if I had to.

    Over the next few weeks, we're going to get back to the new normal. Hopefully the new normal is being more cautious with our hygiene and health and not the new normal of Mad Max/Omega Man.

    Either way it will be interesting.


    I still don’t wash my hands (unless they have dirt, grease, poop on them) It’s served me well for quite sometime. Not changing.
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