Coronavirus gathering bans raise religious freedom questions

DerekJohnson

https://apnews.com/c6198ba98ea6d26b128044ea59b9b4da

MikeDamone

No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

Pitchfork51

Just use it as an excuse to ban islam

PurpleThrobber

MikeDamone said:

No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

2A > 1A right now.

GrundleStiltzkin

PurpleThrobber said:

MikeDamone said:

No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

2A > 1A right now.

@PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.

PurpleThrobber

GrundleStiltzkin said:

PurpleThrobber said:

MikeDamone said:

No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

2A > 1A right now.

@PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.

Don't rule out 'borrowing' from family members for a limited period of time/purpose....

Which may or may not have already happened.

Doog_de_Jour

I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

PurpleThrobber

Doog_de_Jour said:

I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

What if their prayers ended the virus? :-)

I don't necessarily think the government is 'using' this to crack down on religious freedoms but it only takes a couple light bulb moments like that for the statists to seize the moment.

Had Rahm Emmanuel not said "Never let a good crisis go to waste", I probably wouldn't have that level of skepticism.

Doog_de_Jour

PurpleThrobber said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

What if their prayers ended the virus? :-)

I don't necessarily think the government is 'using' this to crack down on religious freedoms but it only takes a couple light bulb moments like that for the statists to seize the moment.

Had Rahm Emmanuel not said "Never let a good crisis go to waste", I probably wouldn't have that level of skepticism.

True, but I would think you’d also see other liberties being curtailed at the same time (freedom of speech) before alarm bells should be sounded.

As far as I know the government isn’t shutting down the online streaming of religious services or church websites. In fact, some communities are reaching out to religious organizations as many already have the systems in place to help out the needy.

RaceBannon

Doog_de_Jour said:

I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

#RESIST

We are not given our rights by the government the government is to protect and not infringe on those rights

MikeDamone

PurpleThrobber said:

MikeDamone said:

No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

2A > 1A right now.

Not just right now, but always. 2A protects 1A

MikeDamone

RaceBannon said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

#RESIST

We are not given our rights by the government the government is to protect and not infringe on those rights

It's not just freedom of religion, 1A recognizes the right to assemble and freely associate.

GrundleStiltzkin

That article fell short. I want chapter & verse on the laws granting these emergency authorities.

RaceBannon

Newsome is throwing around a lot of "I order" shit. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely isn't just for college classes to discuss anymore

I called our flooring sub and asked if they want to work this weekend and they said hell yes they need the money. Looks like we will. Stories of random harassment from the police in NO Cal over the last week.

My wife had succumbed to the panic until Gavin went too far..BULLSHIT was her response.

See you in court

Doogles

RaceBannon said:

Newsome is throwing around a lot of "I order" shit. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely isn't just for college classes to discuss anymore

I called our flooring sub and asked if they want to work this weekend and they said hell yes they need the money. Looks like we will. Stories of random harassment from the police in NO Cal over the last week.

My wife had succumbed to the panic until Gavin went too far..BULLSHIT was her response.

See you in court

Race, YOU are part of the problem. There is blood on your hands!

PurpleThrobber

RaceBannon said:

Newsome is throwing around a lot of "I order" shit. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely isn't just for college classes to discuss anymore

I called our flooring sub and asked if they want to work this weekend and they said hell yes they need the money. Looks like we will. Stories of random harassment from the police in NO Cal over the last week.

My wife had succumbed to the panic until Gavin went too far..BULLSHIT was her response.

See you in court

Newsome saw how Inslee ins'ed and is running the same playbook.

It's like having Nedermeyer and Greg Marmalad running things.

PurpleThrobber

Doog_de_Jour said:

PurpleThrobber said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

What if their prayers ended the virus? :-)

I don't necessarily think the government is 'using' this to crack down on religious freedoms but it only takes a couple light bulb moments like that for the statists to seize the moment.

Had Rahm Emmanuel not said "Never let a good crisis go to waste", I probably wouldn't have that level of skepticism.

True, but I would think you’d also see other liberties being curtailed at the same time (freedom of speech) before alarm bells should be sounded.

As far as I know the government isn’t shutting down the online streaming of religious services or church websites. In fact, some communities are reaching out to religious organizations as many already have the systems in place to help out the needy.

There are drive-in religious services where the congregants can sit in their cars and listen to the sermon on the radio. That would be rough for the Throbber because I'd revert back to 1981 while watching Heavy Metal and try to cop a feel.

I don't think we are at a point where the religious folks should initiate a showdown - but if this crap drags on there is going to be unrest and protest. Particularly as more data comes in and the comparison to past pandemics that were not near as fearmongered (I see you BHO and H1N1 and your 12,469 deaths).

For a couple weeks, ain't no big thing. Like during summer time attendance when everybody goes to the lake and it's just the preacher and the organist lusting one another on Sunday morning.

DerekJohnson

PurpleThrobber said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

PurpleThrobber said:

MikeDamone said:

No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

2A > 1A right now.

@PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.

Don't rule out 'borrowing' from family members for a limited period of time/purpose....

Which may or may not have already happened.

PurpleThrobber

DerekJohnson said:

PurpleThrobber said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

PurpleThrobber said:

MikeDamone said:

No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

2A > 1A right now.

@PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.

Don't rule out 'borrowing' from family members for a limited period of time/purpose....

Which may or may not have already happened.

Yeah...you know me.

Harm me with harmony.

ThomasFremont

How will they pray away the gay now???

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

#RESIST

We are not given our rights by the government the government is to protect and not infringe on those rights

This virus is highly contageous. You and consenting adults should be at liberty to spread it amongst yourselves only, but that's not how viruses work. #1919StanleyCup