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Coronavirus gathering bans raise religious freedom questions

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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,068
    Just use it as an excuse to ban islam
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,791 Standard Supporter

    No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

    2A > 1A right now.

  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

    2A > 1A right now.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,791 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2020

    No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

    2A > 1A right now.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.

    Don't rule out 'borrowing' from family members for a limited period of time/purpose....

    Which may or may not have already happened.

  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,791 Standard Supporter

    I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

    What if their prayers ended the virus? :-)

    I don't necessarily think the government is 'using' this to crack down on religious freedoms but it only takes a couple light bulb moments like that for the statists to seize the moment.

    Had Rahm Emmanuel not said "Never let a good crisis go to waste", I probably wouldn't have that level of skepticism.


  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

    What if their prayers ended the virus? :-)

    I don't necessarily think the government is 'using' this to crack down on religious freedoms but it only takes a couple light bulb moments like that for the statists to seize the moment.

    Had Rahm Emmanuel not said "Never let a good crisis go to waste", I probably wouldn't have that level of skepticism.


    True, but I would think you’d also see other liberties being curtailed at the same time (freedom of speech) before alarm bells should be sounded.

    As far as I know the government isn’t shutting down the online streaming of religious services or church websites. In fact, some communities are reaching out to religious organizations as many already have the systems in place to help out the needy.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,609 Founders Club

    I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

    #RESIST

    We are not given our rights by the government the government is to protect and not infringe on those rights
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

    2A > 1A right now.

    Not just right now, but always. 2A protects 1A
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

    #RESIST

    We are not given our rights by the government the government is to protect and not infringe on those rights
    It's not just freedom of religion, 1A recognizes the right to assemble and freely associate.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    That article fell short. I want chapter & verse on the laws granting these emergency authorities.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,609 Founders Club
    Newsome is throwing around a lot of "I order" shit. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely isn't just for college classes to discuss anymore

    I called our flooring sub and asked if they want to work this weekend and they said hell yes they need the money. Looks like we will. Stories of random harassment from the police in NO Cal over the last week.

    My wife had succumbed to the panic until Gavin went too far..BULLSHIT was her response.

    See you in court
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,615 Founders Club

    Newsome is throwing around a lot of "I order" shit. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely isn't just for college classes to discuss anymore

    I called our flooring sub and asked if they want to work this weekend and they said hell yes they need the money. Looks like we will. Stories of random harassment from the police in NO Cal over the last week.

    My wife had succumbed to the panic until Gavin went too far..BULLSHIT was her response.

    See you in court

    Race, YOU are part of the problem. There is blood on your hands!
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,791 Standard Supporter

    Newsome is throwing around a lot of "I order" shit. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely isn't just for college classes to discuss anymore

    I called our flooring sub and asked if they want to work this weekend and they said hell yes they need the money. Looks like we will. Stories of random harassment from the police in NO Cal over the last week.

    My wife had succumbed to the panic until Gavin went too far..BULLSHIT was her response.

    See you in court

    Newsome saw how Inslee ins'ed and is running the same playbook.

    It's like having Nedermeyer and Greg Marmalad running things.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,791 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2020

    I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

    What if their prayers ended the virus? :-)

    I don't necessarily think the government is 'using' this to crack down on religious freedoms but it only takes a couple light bulb moments like that for the statists to seize the moment.

    Had Rahm Emmanuel not said "Never let a good crisis go to waste", I probably wouldn't have that level of skepticism.


    True, but I would think you’d also see other liberties being curtailed at the same time (freedom of speech) before alarm bells should be sounded.

    As far as I know the government isn’t shutting down the online streaming of religious services or church websites. In fact, some communities are reaching out to religious organizations as many already have the systems in place to help out the needy.
    There are drive-in religious services where the congregants can sit in their cars and listen to the sermon on the radio. That would be rough for the Throbber because I'd revert back to 1981 while watching Heavy Metal and try to cop a feel.

    I don't think we are at a point where the religious folks should initiate a showdown - but if this crap drags on there is going to be unrest and protest. Particularly as more data comes in and the comparison to past pandemics that were not near as fearmongered (I see you BHO and H1N1 and your 12,469 deaths).

    For a couple weeks, ain't no big thing. Like during summer time attendance when everybody goes to the lake and it's just the preacher and the organist lusting one another on Sunday morning.

  • AtomicPissAtomicPiss Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,493 Founders Club

    No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

    2A > 1A right now.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.

    Don't rule out 'borrowing' from family members for a limited period of time/purpose....

    Which may or may not have already happened.


  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,791 Standard Supporter

    No one has time to sit around and discuss 1A

    2A > 1A right now.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't own any guns.

    Don't rule out 'borrowing' from family members for a limited period of time/purpose....

    Which may or may not have already happened.


    Yeah...you know me.

    Harm me with harmony.

  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    How will they pray away the gay now???
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,611

    I sympathize with people who are cut off from their houses of worship, but shame on these religious leaders that are flaunting their breaking of the rules. The United States already affords religion tremendous liberties and generous tax breaks, so I’m appalled anyone would try to insinuate that the government is using this crisis to try to crack down on religion.

    #RESIST

    We are not given our rights by the government the government is to protect and not infringe on those rights
    This virus is highly contageous. You and consenting adults should be at liberty to spread it amongst yourselves only, but that's not how viruses work. #1919StanleyCup
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