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Live Look at Bernie Sanders

SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,536 Founders Club
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Imagine being a shoe in to win when you woke up 4 days ago, and now having basically no chance. Imagine that.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,804
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    I'm actually impressed that the dems were able to so quickly yank Pete and Amy, ignore Bloomberg, and consolidate to throw all of their weight behind Joe in just a matter of days. I thought Joe was good and dead, but his reanimated corpse absolutely cleaned up yesterday.

    It's what the RNC wished they did in summer 2016.     By the time they consolidated the never-Trump vote, it was too late and he was off and running, completely reinventing the GOP.

    Yep.
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,536 Founders Club
    edited March 2020
    MAGAZORD!


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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,999
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    I'm actually impressed that the dems were able to so quickly yank Pete and Amy, ignore Bloomberg, and consolidate to throw all of their weight behind Joe in just a matter of days. I thought Joe was good and dead, but his reanimated corpse absolutely cleaned up yesterday.

    It's what the RNC wished they did in summer 2016. By the time they consolidated the never-Trump vote, it was too late and he was off and running, completely reinventing the GOP.

    All Trump did was give voice to the Republican base that had been ignored by the party. The party talked a good game around election time but once they got into office they never delivered. See McCain's promise to build a wall back in 2010. If by making the GOP live up to what it was promising, then yes he "reinvented" it.

    https://youtu.be/r0lwusMxiHc
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    SFGbob said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    I'm actually impressed that the dems were able to so quickly yank Pete and Amy, ignore Bloomberg, and consolidate to throw all of their weight behind Joe in just a matter of days. I thought Joe was good and dead, but his reanimated corpse absolutely cleaned up yesterday.

    It's what the RNC wished they did in summer 2016. By the time they consolidated the never-Trump vote, it was too late and he was off and running, completely reinventing the GOP.

    All Trump did was give voice to the Republican base that had been ignored by the party. The party talked a good game around election time but once they got into office they never delivered. See McCain's promise to build a wall back in 2010. If by making the GOP live up to what it was promising, then yes he "reinvented" it.

    https://youtu.be/r0lwusMxiHc
    Ctrl + H "Trump" for "Bernie" and it's essentially the same process, albeit with vastly different personalities and policies. The GOP did not want Trump. They were slow to react and did not stop him. The DNC did not want Bernie. Right now it looks like they're effectively stopped him in his tracks.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,664 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    I'm actually impressed that the dems were able to so quickly yank Pete and Amy, ignore Bloomberg, and consolidate to throw all of their weight behind Joe in just a matter of days. I thought Joe was good and dead, but his reanimated corpse absolutely cleaned up yesterday.

    It's what the RNC wished they did in summer 2016. By the time they consolidated the never-Trump vote, it was too late and he was off and running, completely reinventing the GOP.

    Swaye said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    I'm actually impressed that the dems were able to so quickly yank Pete and Amy, ignore Bloomberg, and consolidate to throw all of their weight behind Joe in just a matter of days. I thought Joe was good and dead, but his reanimated corpse absolutely cleaned up yesterday.

    It's what the RNC wished they did in summer 2016. By the time they consolidated the never-Trump vote, it was too late and he was off and running, completely reinventing the GOP.

    This. The DNC learned from the RNC's collapse. I will give the Dems credit, they know how to do machine politics. The GOP has always been a bunch of losers since Reagan.
    Generally agree but also agree with Bob that Trump was a populist with items that are actually popular. But in general the Dems are a lot better at politics and the machine because they live and breathe it. Bill has been the closest thing to a democrat outsider but he had always been in politics and government himself and then took over the machine and still runs a lot of it

    I think the GOP did everything the dems are doing this year to stop Trump in 2016 but the people were behind Trump. You can't buy it or cook it up in a lab. It either happens or it doesn't.

    Bernie inspires loyalty but his populist views lack widespread popularity and would have hit the wall against Trump

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries

    By Nevada in Feb the GOP was down to Trump, Cruz, and Rubio. The GOP also didn't stack Super Tuesday as much as the dems did this year. You could criticize Rubio for staying in too long but even when it did get down to Cruz, Trump was the winner

    The GOP establishment lost after the first debate. All their eggs were with Jeb. Cruz wasn't much more popular than Trump among the establishment

    Facts is Trump is a lot smarter and better politician that anyone wants to admit. Doesn't mean the democrats can't find anyone that can win because we are 50-50 since 1980. The only sure thing is that America is fickle
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,810 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    @dnc is going after Tulsi now. Apparently she resurrected her campaign by getting some delegates which got her back to the next debate

    But no, @dnc wants to change the rules again

    Mostly the Throbber just wants to cup her breasts....

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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,443 Standard Supporter
    All 647 Bloomberd voters are now behind Slow Joe.

    Geez how much did it cost him per vote?
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