That is clear but how the masses were manipulated by the rat press and the elites was masterful. I don't care if it was Bernie who was behind and they put him in the cats seat. It was proof of how powerful the few are and how easily manipulated the masses are. The talking heads weren't going on and on about Biden, they were trashing bernie. Biden was hardly mentioned.
Or it could be as simple as there are still a bunch of moderate Dem voters who don't want a non-Democrat, communist on their ticket in 2020.
Biden sucks. Much of the criticism I see of him in this space is merited.
But imagine thinking that the Bernie Bros taking a beating is a bad thing for America. Fuck them and their "gimme free shit Revolution".
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
Trump will get re-elected, but will NOT win the popular vote.
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
I enjoy our discussions on your country club GOP membership. Of course a trained actor and soap salesman is better at sales. Depending on the target audience. Trump sells to the disaffected who are tired of the Bush clan caving in and apologizing for everything. Or guys like McCain and Romney who want to be liked by the DC establishment more than they want to fight for us.
Trump is the guy we needed.
I am neither GOP nor conservative. I am a 60's radical that never sold out. I'm a Jefferson agrarian. I didn't embrace communism like Bernie I embrace America fulfilling its greatness and its destiny. Leave me alone and don't tread on me.
The democrats had an effective argument that the right wanted to control your life with the whole Christian right thing. They gave that away when they passed laws on what kind of light bulb you have to use.
Now it is clear who wants to control and who is cutting the bonds of taxation and regulation.
I'm a simple construction worker who just wants to live free or die.
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
Reagan cut taxes. Reagan raised taxes too when folks used to care about the deficits. Bush broke his campaign promise and raised taxes to help control deficits. The economy in the 90s didn't seem to mind.
Bush 41 didn't become President because the GOP Establishment hated Reagan. He was the VP of a very popular and successful President. Pretty hard to keep those type of guys from getting the nomination.
Only after your Reagan kids got Bill to agree on cutting spending and repealing the worst of the tax hikes.
Newt was outside the establishment as well. Being anti establishment is never wrong. The one time I went against George Washington on intervention in foreign affairs was a huge mistake. That was your Bushies aided and abetted by the democrats.
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
Trump will get re-elected, but will NOT win the popular vote.
Dems will blame Bernie and BernieBros.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
This is why I was for Bernie. Tired of the excuses and if only. We could have settled some shit
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
Reagan cut taxes. Reagan raised taxes too when folks used to care about the deficits. Bush broke his campaign promise and raised taxes to help control deficits. The economy in the 90s didn't seem to mind.
Bush 41 didn't become President because the GOP Establishment hated Reagan. He was the VP of a very popular and successful President. Pretty hard to keep those type of guys from getting the nomination.
Only after your Reagan kids got Bill to agree on cutting spending and repealing the worst of the tax hikes.
Newt was outside the establishment as well. Being anti establishment is never wrong. The one time I went against George Washington on intervention in foreign affairs was a huge mistake. That was your Bushies aided and abetted by the democrats.
Intervention was a Bush 43 thing, which both you and I supported. We thought we had to DO SOMETHING to shake up the Middle East and that they'd find the WMD. Lesson learned and it's ok to admit being wrong.
Let's not smear Bush 41 though. He kept the oil flowing and stopped short of intervention.
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
Reagan cut taxes. Reagan raised taxes too when folks used to care about the deficits. Bush broke his campaign promise and raised taxes to help control deficits. The economy in the 90s didn't seem to mind.
Bush 41 didn't become President because the GOP Establishment hated Reagan. He was the VP of a very popular and successful President. Pretty hard to keep those type of guys from getting the nomination.
Only after your Reagan kids got Bill to agree on cutting spending and repealing the worst of the tax hikes.
Newt was outside the establishment as well. Being anti establishment is never wrong. The one time I went against George Washington on intervention in foreign affairs was a huge mistake. That was your Bushies aided and abetted by the democrats.
Intervention was a Bush 43 thing, which both you and I supported. We thought we had to DO SOMETHING to shake up the Middle East and that they'd find the WMD. Lesson learned and it's ok to admit being wrong.
Let's not smear Bush 41 though. He kept the oil flowing and stopped short of intervention.
Bush 1 was a patriot and war hero like JFK. I would not smear that
Kuwait is more defensible than Iraq but both of them showed that we didn't learn the lesson of Vietnam. If we aren't in it to win it then stay out.
One could argue that going into Baghdad in 91 would have been better than 02. But its all hypothetical.
I was itching to kick some Jihadi ass in Iraq but it became clear over time that we were there for profits for arms dealers. We weren't there for the oil which would have actually made sense
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
I enjoy our discussions on your country club GOP membership. Of course a trained actor and soap salesman is better at sales. Depending on the target audience. Trump sells to the disaffected who are tired of the Bush clan caving in and apologizing for everything. Or guys like McCain and Romney who want to be liked by the DC establishment more than they want to fight for us.
Trump is the guy we needed.
I am neither GOP nor conservative. I am a 60's radical that never sold out. I'm a Jefferson agrarian. I didn't embrace communism like Bernie I embrace America fulfilling its greatness and its destiny. Leave me alone and don't tread on me.
The democrats had an effective argument that the right wanted to control your life with the whole Christian right thing. They gave that away when they passed laws on what kind of light bulb you have to use.
Now it is clear who wants to control and who is cutting the bonds of taxation and regulation.
I'm a simple construction worker who just wants to live free or die.
Sales is perhaps the most important part of the job. Donnie is great at sales to the base. He sucks at the type of sales needed to win beyond the base.
Obama sucked at congressional sales. He was young and cool though and that was enough to win comfortably twice.
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
I enjoy our discussions on your country club GOP membership. Of course a trained actor and soap salesman is better at sales. Depending on the target audience. Trump sells to the disaffected who are tired of the Bush clan caving in and apologizing for everything. Or guys like McCain and Romney who want to be liked by the DC establishment more than they want to fight for us.
Trump is the guy we needed.
I am neither GOP nor conservative. I am a 60's radical that never sold out. I'm a Jefferson agrarian. I didn't embrace communism like Bernie I embrace America fulfilling its greatness and its destiny. Leave me alone and don't tread on me.
The democrats had an effective argument that the right wanted to control your life with the whole Christian right thing. They gave that away when they passed laws on what kind of light bulb you have to use.
Now it is clear who wants to control and who is cutting the bonds of taxation and regulation.
I'm a simple construction worker who just wants to live free or die.
Sales is perhaps the most important part of the job. Donnie is great at sales to the base. He sucks at the type of sales needed to win beyond the base.
Obama sucked at congressional sales. He was young and cool though and that was enough to win comfortably twice.
Let's revisit his sales beyond the base in November.
I don't think Obama cared about Congress once the democrats lost it. I think Trump wrote the opposition off as well.
The days of Tip and Dutch are gone. Or even Newt and Bill
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
Trump will get re-elected, but will NOT win the popular vote.
Dems will blame Bernie and BernieBros.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Chinned.
But FTR, I'm not sure the popular vote is off the table if Biden's the nom.
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
I enjoy our discussions on your country club GOP membership. Of course a trained actor and soap salesman is better at sales. Depending on the target audience. Trump sells to the disaffected who are tired of the Bush clan caving in and apologizing for everything. Or guys like McCain and Romney who want to be liked by the DC establishment more than they want to fight for us.
Trump is the guy we needed.
I am neither GOP nor conservative. I am a 60's radical that never sold out. I'm a Jefferson agrarian. I didn't embrace communism like Bernie I embrace America fulfilling its greatness and its destiny. Leave me alone and don't tread on me.
The democrats had an effective argument that the right wanted to control your life with the whole Christian right thing. They gave that away when they passed laws on what kind of light bulb you have to use.
Now it is clear who wants to control and who is cutting the bonds of taxation and regulation.
I'm a simple construction worker who just wants to live free or die.
Sales is perhaps the most important part of the job. Donnie is great at sales to the base. He sucks at the type of sales needed to win beyond the base.
Obama sucked at congressional sales. He was young and cool though and that was enough to win comfortably twice.
Let's revisit his sales beyond the base in November.
I don't think Obama cared about Congress once the democrats lost it. I think Trump wrote the opposition off as well.
The days of Tip and Dutch are gone. Or even Newt and Bill
Which is why we're phucked, unless you think gridlock is better than DOING SOMETHING. Unless you have the kind of one party super majority rule which FDR and LBJ had, it's hard to get anything done without some Tip and Dutch or Newt and Bill horse trading.
It will be a tough race but Joe has to stay on his feet for many more months. Hillary couldn't hack it
This is an excellent point. Much has been made about how soft Bidens schedule has been and he can;t stand up to that. Say what you about The Great Orange one, but this fat bastard has energy for days. Biden looks like a nice old Grandpa at a retirement home. Trump moves around with a purpose. No way Biden can stand up to the pressure and pace of a legit Presidential race while getting twatter roasted daily. Then again, Biden's best chance is probably to stay hidden. Just park him somewhere in the Midwest and bring him out every few days to say some shit that doesn't make much sense, then lock him back in a room while the Democratic machine does it's thing. The more he says, the worse he looks.
If Biden has to debate Trump, it's going to be Tyson vs Spinks.
I'm not so sure. Trump isn't really some expert debater. He was great at trashing Hillary but everyone already hated Hillary.
Trump will get so far under his skin that Biden will crack at some point and challenge him to do push ups
People love to complain and blame the media and the party machines for “manipulating voters”, but the fact of the matter is voters still have to cast their ballots and have the last say.
Klobuchar and Pete voters could have voted for Bernie. They didn’t. Most people are still not in favor of a socialist candidate. Blame whoever you want, but scoreboard bitch!!!!
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
Bloomberg should have been a part of the new GOP coalition which looks a lot like your dad's democrat party. Trump would have stood tall behind stop and frisk and defended it. People are not looking for weak kneed apologists from either party.
Trump has changed politics for a generation. Those who understand that will win.
Reagan changed conservatism but the GOP couldn't wait to be rid of him for the NE establishment Bush who apologized for being conservative.
The GOP couldn't wait to get right of Ronnie? He's the Patron Saint of the party for crying out loud. What was the 1994 Revolution? Those guys and gals were all the ideological heirs of Reagan.
And what happened before that? Compassionate conservatism is an apology for Reagan being mean to grandma and starving children. Read my lips became raise my taxes. Bush sold out the Reagan Revolution and lost the White House
1994 was a long time ago. And a faded memory. Trump is closer to Reagan than W or any of the refuse that ran against him. The GOP don't care. National Review Never Trump.
They can all fuck off
I gave credit to Trump for, at least, trying to do what he said he was going to do- i.e., getting tougher on illegal immigration and push back on China. I haven't always agreed with the tactic and optics, but fine, we needed to DO SOMETHING on these issues. Trump is similar to Reagan in this respect that he's been willing to stick to his principles on these policies.
Still, Trump, falls incredibly short of Reagan's political gifts in so many respects. 60% of the country loved the Gipper. No more than 40% will ever love Donnie. But another 6 to 8% will think he's the lesser of two evils and that's enough to win the EC in 2020 and maybe the popular vote too.
I understand you go to war with the candidate you have and not the candidate you want.
Trump will get re-elected, but will NOT win the popular vote.
Dems will blame Bernie and BernieBros.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Chinned.
But FTR, I'm not sure the popular vote is off the table if Biden's the nom.
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
I used to know the dem king maker in Oregon way back when. He was a 60's radical who dropped acid, dropped out and then when he figured out commune life didn't pay the bills he went back and got his law degree. As a college student and then a politically active rat 20 something I used to listen to every word he said and he liked to drone on about how he and his group were going to change Oregon politics from a grass roots level. Starting first with the libraries, schools and City of Portland low level employees. Over 40 years he did exactly what he said he was going to do. I know for fact his blue print was adopted by Colorado, New Mexico and Washington 60's generation liberals. They were all well funded and used to brag that they were using Conservative tax payer money against them. Most of this core group ended up running the dem party for all those states. That is when the legislatures in those states all turned and went far left. For obvious reasons we mutually cut off all communication with each other back in the late 80's but I would see his name attached to meetings and seminars in DC throughout the 90's when I was working up there. He was teaching others how it could be done in their states. He was very successful in doing what he wanted to do.
The things I admired about these scoundrels was their dedication to forcing America into what they thought it should be. Their willingness to stick to a long term strategy and not get impatient. Their ability to find people who were leaders, dedicated to the cause but not concerned about their personal wealth. Those people would take jobs in city and county government and at the administrative levels of education that didn't pay much but as time went by they would earn more authority and be in a position of control and influence and then they would exercise that influence.
Republicans don't think like that and the next thing you know you get the Katz's of the world running things and supporting all those lower levels below and their agenda and it is too late. The culture, the education and tradition are all gone.
I had drinks with an older Rep from Oregon while in DC. He was a Dem but older than the 60's democrats. We were talking about how Oregon had turned so rapidly. He told me a story about a grandson or a nephew who came home and told his parents about some revisionist shit he learned at school When the parents scheduled a meeting with an administrator to voice their displeasure, they were told that there was nothing parents could do and that if they wanted to affect change they had to go through the PTA. They felt helpless and yanked the kid out of public school. The Rep told me that things had gone too far left and the state was unbalanced. That was in the late 80's early 90's.
This was basically Obama's and the lefts plan. A large percentage of the hippies went into teaching. My wifes aunt and uncle were part of it.
Install people at high ranked non approval needed jobs and destroy us from within.
It will be a tough race but Joe has to stay on his feet for many more months. Hillary couldn't hack it
This is an excellent point. Much has been made about how soft Bidens schedule has been and he can;t stand up to that. Say what you about The Great Orange one, but this fat bastard has energy for days. Biden looks like a nice old Grandpa at a retirement home. Trump moves around with a purpose. No way Biden can stand up to the pressure and pace of a legit Presidential race while getting twatter roasted daily. Then again, Biden's best chance is probably to stay hidden. Just park him somewhere in the Midwest and bring him out every few days to say some shit that doesn't make much sense, then lock him back in a room while the Democratic machine does it's thing. The more he says, the worse he looks.
If Biden has to debate Trump, it's going to be Tyson vs Spinks.
I'm not so sure. Trump isn't really some expert debater. He was great at trashing Hillary but everyone already hated Hillary.
Trump will get so far under his skin that Biden will crack at some point and challenge him to do push ups
Culture is trending badly as Sleddog points out. We aren’t there yet, but the socialists have pretty much take over the entire public education system and much of the “private” education system. Each year millions of poorly educated but indoctrinated youngsters are released into the public square.
There literally are no good democrats left in the traditional sense. Bloomberg was a great mayor. He continued Rudy’s stop and frisk programs that targeted black on black crime and saved thousands of black kids lives and knocked crime down all over New York including black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
Yet, Bloomberg couldn’t run on that record in the dem primaries and was forced to adopt the leftard politically correct view of crime and disavow his successful program and get back to blaming whitey. Al Sharpton and the BLM movement clearly have a veto power over any dem candidate running for major office. There isn’t going to be a Sister Souljah moment. Frankly, there isn’t a real big difference philosophically between Bernie and barry. Barry was just a little more circumspect. Pelosi was badgered by the base into supporting a ridiculous impeachment.
The closest thing to a moderate democrat running this year for president was Tulsi and she got no support and she is way to the left of blue dog Bubba.
I used to know the dem king maker in Oregon way back when. He was a 60's radical who dropped acid, dropped out and then when he figured out commune life didn't pay the bills he went back and got his law degree. As a college student and then a politically active rat 20 something I used to listen to every word he said and he liked to drone on about how he and his group were going to change Oregon politics from a grass roots level. Starting first with the libraries, schools and City of Portland low level employees. Over 40 years he did exactly what he said he was going to do. I know for fact his blue print was adopted by Colorado, New Mexico and Washington 60's generation liberals. They were all well funded and used to brag that they were using Conservative tax payer money against them. Most of this core group ended up running the dem party for all those states. That is when the legislatures in those states all turned and went far left. For obvious reasons we mutually cut off all communication with each other back in the late 80's but I would see his name attached to meetings and seminars in DC throughout the 90's when I was working up there. He was teaching others how it could be done in their states. He was very successful in doing what he wanted to do.
The things I admired about these scoundrels was their dedication to forcing America into what they thought it should be. Their willingness to stick to a long term strategy and not get impatient. Their ability to find people who were leaders, dedicated to the cause but not concerned about their personal wealth. Those people would take jobs in city and county government and at the administrative levels of education that didn't pay much but as time went by they would earn more authority and be in a position of control and influence and then they would exercise that influence.
Republicans don't think like that and the next thing you know you get the Katz's of the world running things and supporting all those lower levels below and their agenda and it is too late. The culture, the education and tradition are all gone.
I had drinks with an older Rep from Oregon while in DC. He was a Dem but older than the 60's democrats. We were talking about how Oregon had turned so rapidly. He told me a story about a grandson or a nephew who came home and told his parents about some revisionist shit he learned at school When the parents scheduled a meeting with an administrator to voice their displeasure, they were told that there was nothing parents could do and that if they wanted to affect change they had to go through the PTA. They felt helpless and yanked the kid out of public school. The Rep told me that things had gone too far left and the state was unbalanced. That was in the late 80's early 90's.
This was basically Obama's and the lefts plan. A large percentage of the hippies went into teaching. My wifes aunt and uncle were part of it.
Install people at high ranked non approval needed jobs and destroy us from within.
Biden isn't a commie. But he has been a stupid incompetent phu*ck his whole life. Toss in early stage Alzheimer's and the same leftards screaming for the cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment against Trump for mental incompetence and once again you have the hypocrisy of the left on display. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
Biden isn't a commie. But he has been a stupid incompetent phu*ck his whole life. Toss in early stage Alzheimer's and the same leftards screaming for the cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment against Trump for mental incompetence and once again you have the hypocrisy of the left on display. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
When he said he's all in on the Green New Deal he became a commie.
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Trump is the guy we needed.
I am neither GOP nor conservative. I am a 60's radical that never sold out. I'm a Jefferson agrarian. I didn't embrace communism like Bernie I embrace America fulfilling its greatness and its destiny. Leave me alone and don't tread on me.
The democrats had an effective argument that the right wanted to control your life with the whole Christian right thing. They gave that away when they passed laws on what kind of light bulb you have to use.
Now it is clear who wants to control and who is cutting the bonds of taxation and regulation.
I'm a simple construction worker who just wants to live free or die.
Newt was outside the establishment as well. Being anti establishment is never wrong. The one time I went against George Washington on intervention in foreign affairs was a huge mistake. That was your Bushies aided and abetted by the democrats.
Let's not smear Bush 41 though. He kept the oil flowing and stopped short of intervention.
Kuwait is more defensible than Iraq but both of them showed that we didn't learn the lesson of Vietnam. If we aren't in it to win it then stay out.
One could argue that going into Baghdad in 91 would have been better than 02. But its all hypothetical.
I was itching to kick some Jihadi ass in Iraq but it became clear over time that we were there for profits for arms dealers. We weren't there for the oil which would have actually made sense
I'm back to isolationism
Obama sucked at congressional sales. He was young and cool though and that was enough to win comfortably twice.
I don't think Obama cared about Congress once the democrats lost it. I think Trump wrote the opposition off as well.
The days of Tip and Dutch are gone. Or even Newt and Bill
But FTR, I'm not sure the popular vote is off the table if Biden's the nom.
Klobuchar and Pete voters could have voted for Bernie. They didn’t. Most people are still not in favor of a socialist candidate. Blame whoever you want, but scoreboard bitch!!!!
Install people at high ranked non approval needed jobs and destroy us from within.
Khrushchev said they'd get us from within.