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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club
    That’s the thing about northern Euro social democracy paradise - everyone pays through the noise, even the pours.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club
    The Bernie bros all think they can get the free shit and only tax the rich. Maff is hard.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,804 Founders Club

    That’s the thing about northern Euro social democracy paradise - everyone pays through the noise, even the pours.

    And the US pays for defense
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club
    edited February 2020

    That’s the thing about northern Euro social democracy paradise - everyone pays through the noise, even the pours.

    And the US pays for defense
    It’s fucked. We need to bring back the USSR so they fucking pay their fair share.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    A viral post claims, falsely, that Sen. Bernie Sanders at a recent debate called for a tax rate of 52% on incomes of $29,000 or more to pay for his Medicare for All plan. He didn’t. That figure was floated as a potential marginal tax rate for income above $10 million.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club
    GDS said:


    A viral post claims, falsely, that Sen. Bernie Sanders at a recent debate called for a tax rate of 52% on incomes of $29,000 or more to pay for his Medicare for All plan. He didn’t. That figure was floated as a potential marginal tax rate for income above $10 million.

    Doesn’t affect my post above in terms of accuracy.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    Bernie wants to tax the sh*t out of the lower and middle class. Start with a carbon tax and then a national VAT and end up with taxing 401(k)s.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    That’s the thing about northern Euro social democracy paradise - everyone pays through the noise, even the pours.

    And the US pays for defense
    Easy to be kumbaya when you're all from the same ideology and USA puts an umbrella over you.

  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    That’s the thing about northern Euro social democracy paradise - everyone pays through the noise, even the pours.

    And the US pays for defense
    Easy to be kumbaya when you're all from the same ideology and USA puts an umbrella over you.

    Same ideology, and more importantly, same race/nationality.
  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2020
    Bernie wants an upper effective tax rate of 70%, along with defunding the military, lowering costs by cutting end of life care. But what happens when Congress only lets him get away with say 50-55% high end tax rate, (and I’m being generous)? That money shortfall is going to have to come from somewhere. We haven’t even talked about free college yet.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    GDS said:


    A viral post claims, falsely, that Sen. Bernie Sanders at a recent debate called for a tax rate of 52% on incomes of $29,000 or more to pay for his Medicare for All plan. He didn’t. That figure was floated as a potential marginal tax rate for income above $10 million.

    But we should listen to you about gas attacks in Syria.

    Got it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    pawz said:

    GDS said:


    A viral post claims, falsely, that Sen. Bernie Sanders at a recent debate called for a tax rate of 52% on incomes of $29,000 or more to pay for his Medicare for All plan. He didn’t. That figure was floated as a potential marginal tax rate for income above $10 million.

    But we should listen to you about gas attacks in Syria.

    Got it.
    And about how Trump offered to pardon Assange.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,785 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    the important thing of the post was twofold -

    1. Socialism sucks - true statement
    2. maff is hard - true statement
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2020

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    Except we don't want to be communists and have all our rights stripped from us. I rather enjoy living in one of the few free countries on earth. But it isn't as free as it should be. Government is way out of line. HTH
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    LebamDawg said:

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    the important thing of the post was twofold -

    1. Socialism sucks - true statement
    2. maff is hard - true statement
    Point 1 is a lot easier to argue when you rely on more than shitty memes from James Woods and Charlie Kirk to make your point.

    Bernie's tax plan is pretty straightforward, and easy for anyone to find if they have access to a search engine. His proposed marginal income tax rates:

    -40% percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
    -45% percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
    -50% percent on income between $2 million and $10 million.
    -52% percent on income above $10 million.

    Yeah, that's a sizeable tax increase for a lot of people, and not just the very wealthy. There's a lot of other details about removing deductions, changing the basis of derivatives, and of course, introducing a wealth tax. But this board should probably start with the remedial basics first.
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    LebamDawg said:

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    the important thing of the post was twofold -

    1. Socialism sucks - true statement
    2. maff is hard - true statement
    Point 1 is a lot easier to argue when you rely on more than shitty memes from James Woods and Charlie Kirk to make your point.

    Bernie's tax plan is pretty straightforward, and easy for anyone to find if they have access to a search engine. His proposed marginal income tax rates:

    -40% percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
    -45% percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
    -50% percent on income between $2 million and $10 million.
    -52% percent on income above $10 million.

    Yeah, that's a sizeable tax increase for a lot of people, and not just the very wealthy. There's a lot of other details about removing deductions, changing the basis of derivatives, and of course, introducing a wealth tax. But this board should probably start with the remedial basics first.
    What’s the tax rate between $100,000 and $250,000? The majority of the taxpayers fall into this category and will bear the brunt of his spending plans.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    USMChawk said:

    LebamDawg said:

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    the important thing of the post was twofold -

    1. Socialism sucks - true statement
    2. maff is hard - true statement
    Point 1 is a lot easier to argue when you rely on more than shitty memes from James Woods and Charlie Kirk to make your point.

    Bernie's tax plan is pretty straightforward, and easy for anyone to find if they have access to a search engine. His proposed marginal income tax rates:

    -40% percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
    -45% percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
    -50% percent on income between $2 million and $10 million.
    -52% percent on income above $10 million.

    Yeah, that's a sizeable tax increase for a lot of people, and not just the very wealthy. There's a lot of other details about removing deductions, changing the basis of derivatives, and of course, introducing a wealth tax. But this board should probably start with the remedial basics first.
    What’s the tax rate between $100,000 and $250,000? The majority of the taxpayers fall into this category and will bear the brunt of his spending plans.
    What's the cost of gas and energy after Bernie bans fracking and who will bear the greatest brunt of that increase in cost?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,034
    SFGbob said:

    USMChawk said:

    LebamDawg said:

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    the important thing of the post was twofold -

    1. Socialism sucks - true statement
    2. maff is hard - true statement
    Point 1 is a lot easier to argue when you rely on more than shitty memes from James Woods and Charlie Kirk to make your point.

    Bernie's tax plan is pretty straightforward, and easy for anyone to find if they have access to a search engine. His proposed marginal income tax rates:

    -40% percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
    -45% percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
    -50% percent on income between $2 million and $10 million.
    -52% percent on income above $10 million.

    Yeah, that's a sizeable tax increase for a lot of people, and not just the very wealthy. There's a lot of other details about removing deductions, changing the basis of derivatives, and of course, introducing a wealth tax. But this board should probably start with the remedial basics first.
    What’s the tax rate between $100,000 and $250,000? The majority of the taxpayers fall into this category and will bear the brunt of his spending plans.
    What's the cost of gas and energy after Bernie bans fracking and who will bear the greatest brunt of that increase in cost?
    A lot.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    LebamDawg said:

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    the important thing of the post was twofold -

    1. Socialism sucks - true statement
    2. maff is hard - true statement
    Point 1 is a lot easier to argue when you rely on more than shitty memes from James Woods and Charlie Kirk to make your point.

    Bernie's tax plan is pretty straightforward, and easy for anyone to find if they have access to a search engine. His proposed marginal income tax rates:

    -40% percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
    -45% percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
    -50% percent on income between $2 million and $10 million.
    -52% percent on income above $10 million.

    Yeah, that's a sizeable tax increase for a lot of people, and not just the very wealthy. There's a lot of other details about removing deductions, changing the basis of derivatives, and of course, introducing a wealth tax. But this board should probably start with the remedial basics first.
    How do you spell "Disaster?" Bernie's Tax plan. Proposals like this one show how completely ignorant and out of touch Bernie actually is.

    Bernie would literally kill the Golden Goose that makes this country attractive enough that we need a border wall to keep people out.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    USMChawk said:

    LebamDawg said:

    Bernie's a kook who won't get any of his policies through Congress. And if he did they'd be disastrous. But Charlie Kirk is an extra chromosome dipshit with made up numbers who can't even grasp the concept of marginal tax rates or gross salary (I'm not sure how he managed to fuck both of those up in the span of 140 characters). Those of you who lap this shit up (sorry Yella, I love you, but you're just as guilty here) without the self awareness to realize you're as dumb as the shrieking AOC minions that boil your blood daily are the real problem.

    the important thing of the post was twofold -

    1. Socialism sucks - true statement
    2. maff is hard - true statement
    Point 1 is a lot easier to argue when you rely on more than shitty memes from James Woods and Charlie Kirk to make your point.

    Bernie's tax plan is pretty straightforward, and easy for anyone to find if they have access to a search engine. His proposed marginal income tax rates:

    -40% percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
    -45% percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
    -50% percent on income between $2 million and $10 million.
    -52% percent on income above $10 million.

    Yeah, that's a sizeable tax increase for a lot of people, and not just the very wealthy. There's a lot of other details about removing deductions, changing the basis of derivatives, and of course, introducing a wealth tax. But this board should probably start with the remedial basics first.
    What’s the tax rate between $100,000 and $250,000? The majority of the taxpayers fall into this category and will bear the brunt of his spending plans.
    They stay the same. You only start paying more in terms of the marginal rate once you cross that $250k threshold. I'm not sure how the standard deduction (which Trump doubled) or other specific itemized deductions (which Trump started eliminating) would change under Bernie. The capital gains tax would also be brought up to match the ordinary income rate for people who make over $250k per year.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,785 Swaye's Wigwam
    Seems to me it still breaks down to socialism sucks. I do not need anyone's tweets to prove that, I can look at how socialism has worked at numerous other countries around the globe.

    I do not want us to be like any of those countries.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,034
    LebamDawg said:

    Seems to me it still breaks down to socialism sucks. I do not need anyone's tweets to prove that, I can look at how socialism has worked at numerous other countries around the globe.

    I do not want us to be like any of those countries.

    There's some hotties in socialist countries....

    FREE VENEZUELA!!!!

    (bing image search "Hot Venezuelan Women" w/the safe search filter turned off).

    Or pay for a Wam subscription and I can hook you up there.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter

    LebamDawg said:

    Seems to me it still breaks down to socialism sucks. I do not need anyone's tweets to prove that, I can look at how socialism has worked at numerous other countries around the globe.

    I do not want us to be like any of those countries.

    There's some hotties in socialist countries....

    FREE VENEZUELA!!!!

    (bing image search "Hot Venezuelan Women" w/the safe search filter turned off).

    Or pay for a Wam subscription and I can hook you up there.

    Let's trade all our socialist/communists to Venezuela for their hotties? Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win