If Hop Loses Out
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Gladdy and Yellow are at the height were you are too tall if you’re not in the NBA. I knew an uncoordinated 7 footer that never played sports. Rather be Frodo than like him.Gladstone said:
hi frodoRoadDawg55 said:
Three’s in transition when you have numbers is another good, efficient way. Either you hit the three or probably get the rebound and an easy put back.RoadDawg55 said:
Letting the Kobe wannabes jack up long twos or finish contested shots at the rim is the way to win. Let the And-1 ball handler do his thing and fuck up finishing the play, grab the rebound and run. Most players have enough pride to not call a foul on any contact near the basket so it’s good to also be physical and right on the line of fouling and not fouling.Tequilla said:The funny thing is that the guys I played with we rarely ran zones (like 1% of the time) ... we doubled, clogged driving lanes, and dictated through defense who we wanted to shoot more than anything else
Only times we legitimately contemplated and/or played zones or comparable were when we absolutely didn’t matchup athletically and protected ourselves from obvious mismatches ... usually due to height and/or lack of ball handlers
It’s fine to give me some shit on it ... whatever I can take a good natured ribbing. When it’s used as a means to discredit, that’s full of shit
Like Teq, I rarely lose playing pick up ball. I’m a pretty good player tho and have never lost my ability to shoot. I can go months without playing and can step on a court and still get red hot. My handle isn’t as tight anymore and I definitely can’t jump as high, but I have more old man strength and play the typical white guy, shooter and hustler role very well.
6’2” is pretty tall for a typical pick up player too so I grab a lot of rebounds and definitely run the floor well. I normally lose after my third or fourth game when I just don’t have the wind to put forth the same effort I did in earlier games. -
Depends on the context, but as I noted earlier. Malachi Flynn is the leading scorer on a 25-0 team. Elleby is one of the best players in the PAC 12. Stevenson is Wichita State’s leading scorer and Gregg Marshall compared him to Ron Baker and said he’s a flat out winner. Noah Williams on WSU is a good role player as a freshman and will be very good.Tequilla said:
There’s always this narrative that Seattle is this hot bed of hoops ... there are lots of very good playersGladstone said:
umm teq what is your greater point with this?Tequilla said:Seattle metro hoops is massively overrated in my opinion
Lots of dudes can play ... no question about that
But there have been a lot of dudes coming out of Seattle that play super selfish individual ball that flames out
For all those that like to say the local kids want to put on for their school, family, and friends locally ... historically that hasn’t been true in hoops other than for fits and starts
UW has never really been the primary school of choice for the local kids ... that’s been true across multiple UW coaches
Most of the best players that this area has produced has gone elsewhere
I’m not super crazy about the general mindset that has come out locally tied to the local AAU level ... lots of kids playing individually and not tied to the team
Who is the last Seattle area kid that really did anything of consequence in college? Payton Siva?
In state recruiting is vital. Superstars aren’t common and aren’t even that valuable because they leave after a year. -
This is the most frustrating part about getting old and I really didn't expect it. I can still cross guys and run the floor, but at 33 there are times where I'm just completely uncharacteristically sloppy with the ball and my hands aren't where they think they are.RoadDawg55 said:
Three’s in transition when you have numbers is another good, efficient way. Either you hit the three or probably get the rebound and an easy put back.RoadDawg55 said:
Letting the Kobe wannabes jack up long twos or finish contested shots at the rim is the way to win. Let the And-1 ball handler do his thing and fuck up finishing the play, grab the rebound and run. Most players have enough pride to not call a foul on any contact near the basket so it’s good to also be physical and right on the line of fouling and not fouling.Tequilla said:The funny thing is that the guys I played with we rarely ran zones (like 1% of the time) ... we doubled, clogged driving lanes, and dictated through defense who we wanted to shoot more than anything else
Only times we legitimately contemplated and/or played zones or comparable were when we absolutely didn’t matchup athletically and protected ourselves from obvious mismatches ... usually due to height and/or lack of ball handlers
It’s fine to give me some shit on it ... whatever I can take a good natured ribbing. When it’s used as a means to discredit, that’s full of shit
Like Teq, I rarely lose playing pick up ball. I’m a pretty good player tho and have never lost my ability to shoot. I can go months without playing and can step on a court and still get red hot. My handle isn’t as tight anymore and I definitely can’t jump as high, but I have more old man strength and play the typical white guy, shooter and hustler role very well.
6’2” is pretty tall for a typical pick up player too so I grab a lot of rebounds and definitely run the floor well. I normally lose after my third or fourth game when I just don’t have the wind to put forth the same effort I did in earlier games.
That and the knee pain. -
I’m all for getting the local kids that get it and aren’t prima donnas ... tired of the kids that act like they should be sucked off that haven’t done jack shitRoadDawg55 said:
Depends on the context, but as I noted earlier. Malachi Flynn is the leading scorer on a 25-0 team. Elleby is one of the best players in the PAC 12. Stevenson is Wichita State’s leading scorer and Gregg Marshall compared him to Ron Baker and said he’s a flat out winner. Noah Williams on WSU is a good role player as a freshman and will be very good.Tequilla said:
There’s always this narrative that Seattle is this hot bed of hoops ... there are lots of very good playersGladstone said:
umm teq what is your greater point with this?Tequilla said:Seattle metro hoops is massively overrated in my opinion
Lots of dudes can play ... no question about that
But there have been a lot of dudes coming out of Seattle that play super selfish individual ball that flames out
For all those that like to say the local kids want to put on for their school, family, and friends locally ... historically that hasn’t been true in hoops other than for fits and starts
UW has never really been the primary school of choice for the local kids ... that’s been true across multiple UW coaches
Most of the best players that this area has produced has gone elsewhere
I’m not super crazy about the general mindset that has come out locally tied to the local AAU level ... lots of kids playing individually and not tied to the team
Who is the last Seattle area kid that really did anything of consequence in college? Payton Siva?
In state recruiting is vital. Superstars aren’t common and aren’t even that valuable because they leave after a year. -
I only was present for the first half tonight ... but wow, just wow
Offensive sets full of dudes standing around with no clue what they are doing
Defense full of lack of awareness
Still not ready to join the fire Hop bandwagon but he’s got a lot of soul searching to do -
I’m definitely rooting for losses at this point. I know Cohen doesn’t have the balls to fire him, but she should be fired if she doesn’t. She really should be fired anyways. She’s terrible and this is the only real hire she made and it’s failed.
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I remember when I was a little kid and dad took me to the Kingdome to see the Sonics play Golden State. For some reason we were waiting in some line near the players' entrance, and Rick Barry walked right past me. He was a wearing a gigantic fur coat. I thought that was a bit of an odd look. But I was also in awe.RaceBannon said:The original trash talking obnoxious Cane
The Sonics first trips to the playoffs coincided with the Warriors run to the title in the mid 70's. Sonic fans hated Rick. Poured beer on him.
The 76 title team was awesome as was Rick
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They were fucking 4 for 24 from 3 last night and still kept jacking them up because they have quit on their coach and there is no offensive game plan. Raequan Battle is supposed to be their "sharp shooter" where that is his only job. He took 8 3 pointers on that game and only made 1.RoadDawg55 said:I’m definitely rooting for losses at this point. I know Cohen doesn’t have the balls to fire him, but she should be fired if she doesn’t. She really should be fired anyways. She’s terrible and this is the only real hire she made and it’s failed.
I'm thinking now that besides McDaniels and Stewart leaving, Naz might try to go to and just D-league it for a couple years. I could also see 2 or 3 transfers. Hop decided not to recruit this year but he may have to start doing it really late and pick up some scraps just to fill the roster. -
I haven’t watched any of the last 8 games or so. I predicted a bottom third finish over a month ago. Looks like they’ll finish dead last! What an epic cluster of a season. This team is worse than any team Romar ever had which is comically bad
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None of the players besides Stewart have any offensive wherewithal. Tsohonis looks like his ceiling is league average pg.
It's like Hop only gave a shit about whether a player would fit into his defense.
Successful teams doing that are the exception, and even the elite ones (Virginia) have had some embarrassing tournament losses.
Get him out of here.
