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Orwell's 1984

MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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Was a warning, not an instruction manual.

I don't have anything to hide so I don't really care.....

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2566&Initiative=false&Year=2019
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    I don't think you read the book. Or the bill you posted.
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,005
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    Libs are chomping at the bit to get the first shovel in the ground for the ministry of love.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    edited February 2020
    Bob_C said:

    Libs are chomping at the bit to get the first shovel in the ground for the ministry of love.

    They will just use it to track felons and people on the "watch list " though....
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,562
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    Its Obama's Patriot Act now but keep pretending there are two parties

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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,562
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    Security is important

    https://foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/tsa-agent-tricked-traveler

    A federal Transportation Security Administration agent tricked a traveler into twice showing him her breasts as she went through security at one of the world’s busiest airports, California’s attorney said.

    Attorney General Xavier Becerra said Johnathon Lomeli, 22, was working at Los Angeles International Airport in June when he used fraud or deceit to falsely imprison the woman. Lomeli was arrested early Thursday at his home.

    He first said he had to look inside her bra to make sure she wasn’t hiding anything, then had her hold her pants away from her waist so he could look inside, she told investigators.



    He subsequently took her to what he said would be a private room for more security screening, according to an arrest affidavit. But once they were alone on an elevator, she said he told her he could do the screening right there.

    The woman said Lomeli told her he had to make sure she still had nothing in her bra, requiring her to lift her shirt “to show me your full breasts.” He also again looked down her pants, she said, before telling her she was free to go and adding that she had nice breasts.

    No pics were included
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,914
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    Security is important

    https://foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/tsa-agent-tricked-traveler

    A federal Transportation Security Administration agent tricked a traveler into twice showing him her breasts as she went through security at one of the world’s busiest airports, California’s attorney said.

    Attorney General Xavier Becerra said Johnathon Lomeli, 22, was working at Los Angeles International Airport in June when he used fraud or deceit to falsely imprison the woman. Lomeli was arrested early Thursday at his home.

    He first said he had to look inside her bra to make sure she wasn’t hiding anything, then had her hold her pants away from her waist so he could look inside, she told investigators.



    He subsequently took her to what he said would be a private room for more security screening, according to an arrest affidavit. But once they were alone on an elevator, she said he told her he could do the screening right there.

    The woman said Lomeli told her he had to make sure she still had nothing in her bra, requiring her to lift her shirt “to show me your full breasts.” He also again looked down her pants, she said, before telling her she was free to go and adding that she had nice breasts.

    No pics were included

    Invite. TSA agent. Stat.

    OKG

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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
    With his well-documented antipathy to the 3LAs, Trump might actually sign that.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,562
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
    Trump is a dictator post of the day!
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,562
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    The democrat Congress could pass a bill forcing the Senate to get on board or keep it which would make the hand wringing make more sense. Get it on the President's desk and make him make the call

    Congress has signed off on the Patriot Act more than once in a nice show of bi partisan national healing
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,604
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    Obama loved it because he's an America hating Muslim who wants to bomb us all
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,969
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    Like everything else, the Patriot Act sounds fine if used for confronting actual threats to the US. Now, you would think that if our government deep state elites actually thought that, they would do everything in their power to do just that. What we got was US commies like John Brennan using the FISA process to spy on a political campaign that they didn't like. Abuse of intelligence agencies by the government is a given. As it stands now, I don't see one dem politician or Tug leftard supporting the investigation into the abuse of the FISA process by dem operatives.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
    He should. We've had multiple presidents and congresses who should have killed it. I want it killed. It seems that surveillance on Americans has bi partisan support.

    Still obsessed with W I see. Weird.

    Sounds like you're ready for WDOT and the state police to track your movement because it's "a drop in the bucket".

    Oh wait, it's just people on the "watch list". Nevermind.
    Yes, pivot to the idea that I support this shit.

    CHRIST.

    “I have nothing to hide”
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
    He should. We've had multiple presidents and congresses who should have killed it. I want it killed. It seems that surveillance on Americans has bi partisan support.

    Still obsessed with W I see. Weird.

    Sounds like you're ready for WDOT and the state police to track your movement because it's "a drop in the bucket".

    Oh wait, it's just people on the "watch list". Nevermind.
    Yes, pivot to the idea that I support this shit.

    CHRIST.

    “I have nothing to hide”
    I did? You brought up the patriot act. Not me.

    So you're ok with state surveillance of your movement because other laws. Got it.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
    He should. We've had multiple presidents and congresses who should have killed it. I want it killed. It seems that surveillance on Americans has bi partisan support.

    Still obsessed with W I see. Weird.

    Sounds like you're ready for WDOT and the state police to track your movement because it's "a drop in the bucket".

    Oh wait, it's just people on the "watch list". Nevermind.
    Yes, pivot to the idea that I support this shit.

    CHRIST.

    “I have nothing to hide”
    I did? You brought up the patriot act. Not me.

    So you're ok with state surveillance of your movement because other laws. Got it.
    Way to miss the point.

    You’re already under surveillance. 24/7.

    Get it yet?
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    edited February 2020

    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
    He should. We've had multiple presidents and congresses who should have killed it. I want it killed. It seems that surveillance on Americans has bi partisan support.

    Still obsessed with W I see. Weird.

    Sounds like you're ready for WDOT and the state police to track your movement because it's "a drop in the bucket".

    Oh wait, it's just people on the "watch list". Nevermind.
    Yes, pivot to the idea that I support this shit.

    CHRIST.

    “I have nothing to hide”
    I did? You brought up the patriot act. Not me.

    So you're ok with state surveillance of your movement because other laws. Got it.
    Way to miss the point.

    You’re already under surveillance. 24/7.

    Get it yet?
    I get you use logical fallacies and don't have an argument. "If you're getting raped, just relax and enjoy it".

    I guarantee you that WDOT and the state patrol cannot tell you were I am right now. If they could we wouldn't have AMBER alerts.

    Get it yet?
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    So when is the Federal Government going to do away with W’s Patriot Act? Or are you only selectively outraged by the erosion of your privacy rights?

    This bill is like a single drop of rain in the ocean. I suppose as long as it doesn’t hurt the 401k, it’s all good though.

    I'm against the patriot act. Why didn't Obama get rid of it rather than strengthen it?

    Any other logical fallacies you'd like to post?
    Why doesn’t Trump get rid of it? He’s in charge now. Still obsessed with Obama I see. Weird.
    He should. We've had multiple presidents and congresses who should have killed it. I want it killed. It seems that surveillance on Americans has bi partisan support.

    Still obsessed with W I see. Weird.

    Sounds like you're ready for WDOT and the state police to track your movement because it's "a drop in the bucket".

    Oh wait, it's just people on the "watch list". Nevermind.
    Yes, pivot to the idea that I support this shit.

    CHRIST.

    “I have nothing to hide”
    I did? You brought up the patriot act. Not me.

    So you're ok with state surveillance of your movement because other laws. Got it.
    Way to miss the point.

    You’re already under surveillance. 24/7.

    Get it yet?
    I get you use logical fallacies and don't have an argument. "If you're getting raped, just relax and enjoy it".

    I guarantee you that WDOT and the state patrol cannot tell you were I am right now. If they could we wouldn't have a AMBER alerts.

    Get it yet?
    ITIL, Damone is a kidnapper.
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