Independent contractors
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Unions must be reading Yang’s book.
Protecting their flanks from the onslaught of automation and AI that is about to hit. Displaced workers will take more side gigs and one-offs to make money.
Unions gonna union for their piece of the bureaucratic elite $$$.
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Actually deej, I said, "Nobody 'enjoys' freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as 'independent contractors'. "
Dishonest or is it World Down Syndrome Day already?
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Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.HHusky said:
Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.2001400ex said:57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)
I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.
Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.
Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry. -
Way to walk that back.HHusky said:
Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.HHusky said:
Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.2001400ex said:57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)
I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.
Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.
Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy. -
An uber driver is either a franchise owner or an employee. Uber doesn't want him/her to be either one.WestlinnDuck said:
If the counselor could actually read a statute and understood the traditional definition of independent contractor he could have added to the conversation. Traditionally, say an Uber driver or a freelance journalist would be a legitimate independent contractor. They own their own tools, set their own hours and don’t have to work if they don’t want to. This law would say that an Uber driver provides the service that Uber (the employer) is selling and therefore fails the new test and therefore must be treated as an employee.
Some employers fraudulently treat true employees as independent contractors. This is against the law and the law has clear remedies for an employee to pursue. Rather than debate whether Uber drivers should now be treated as employees, the counselor chose to run cover for the dems and the unions. No wonder we used to call him Mr. Conservative.
To say a "freelance" journalist is an independent contractor is a tautology.
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I'm walking back nothing. I'm also not the one shrieking that this will "blow up the freelance economy".UW_Doog_Bot said:
Way to walk that back.HHusky said:
Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.HHusky said:
Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.2001400ex said:57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)
I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.
Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.
Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy.
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Lol yes that's the part people are debating and you were questioning.DJDuck said:2001400ex said:
https://www.upwork.com/i/freelancing-in-america/2019/DJDuck said:
And you know this how? That’s a pretty big statement that you can’t prove HUDS.HHusky said:
Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.2001400ex said:57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)
I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.
JFC2001400ex said:
https://www.upwork.com/i/freelancing-in-america/2019/DJDuck said:
And you know this how? That’s a pretty big statement that you can’t prove HUDS.HHusky said:
Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.2001400ex said:57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)
I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.
Stupid post as usual. Where does it say “nobody enjoys freelancing” you motherfucking ignorant moron. -
So let's see, H's current argument is that some dog walkers and painters will now be covered as employees as an in favor of AB5.HHusky said:
I'm walking back nothing. I'm also not the one shrieking that this will "blow up the freelance economy".UW_Doog_Bot said:
Way to walk that back.HHusky said:
Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.HHusky said:
Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.2001400ex said:57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)
I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.
Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.
Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy.
Nevermind how many of those people will become unemployed completely as the secondary effect. They didn't actually want those jobs they were freely and voluntarily employed in anyways.
It's also totally unimportant what other secondary effects this has on the economy. -
I thought Daddy created a whole bunch of real jobs. If so, this should all work out.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So let's see, H's current argument is that some dog walkers and painters will now be covered as employees as an in favor of AB5.HHusky said:
I'm walking back nothing. I'm also not the one shrieking that this will "blow up the freelance economy".UW_Doog_Bot said:
Way to walk that back.HHusky said:
Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.HHusky said:
Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.2001400ex said:57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)
I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.
Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.
Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy.
Nevermind how many of those people will become unemployed completely as the secondary effect. They didn't actually want those jobs they were freely and voluntarily employed in anyways.
It's also totally unimportant what other secondary effects this has on the economy. -
Notably absent: "Employment Law."HHusky said:Your objection to the three part test for independent contractor status is what? It looks pretty familiar, not novel or new, to those of us who have been involved in commercial law and litigation for more than 30 years.
Fucking Collection Agency Lawyer, at best.
