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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,812 Standard Supporter
    Unions must be reading Yang’s book.

    Protecting their flanks from the onslaught of automation and AI that is about to hit. Displaced workers will take more side gigs and one-offs to make money.

    Unions gonna union for their piece of the bureaucratic elite $$$.

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,621
    Actually deej, I said, "Nobody 'enjoys' freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as 'independent contractors'. "

    Dishonest or is it World Down Syndrome Day already?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,621
    edited February 2020

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)


    I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.

    Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.
    Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.

    Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.

    Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
    Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,173 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)


    I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.

    Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.
    Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.

    Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.

    Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
    Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.
    Way to walk that back.

    So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,621


    If the counselor could actually read a statute and understood the traditional definition of independent contractor he could have added to the conversation. Traditionally, say an Uber driver or a freelance journalist would be a legitimate independent contractor. They own their own tools, set their own hours and don’t have to work if they don’t want to. This law would say that an Uber driver provides the service that Uber (the employer) is selling and therefore fails the new test and therefore must be treated as an employee.



    Some employers fraudulently treat true employees as independent contractors. This is against the law and the law has clear remedies for an employee to pursue. Rather than debate whether Uber drivers should now be treated as employees, the counselor chose to run cover for the dems and the unions. No wonder we used to call him Mr. Conservative.

    An uber driver is either a franchise owner or an employee. Uber doesn't want him/her to be either one.

    To say a "freelance" journalist is an independent contractor is a tautology.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,621

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)


    I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.

    Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.
    Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.

    Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.

    Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
    Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.
    Way to walk that back.

    So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy.
    I'm walking back nothing. I'm also not the one shrieking that this will "blow up the freelance economy".

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    DJDuck said:

    2001400ex said:

    DJDuck said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)


    I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.

    Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.
    And you know this how? That’s a pretty big statement that you can’t prove HUDS.

    https://www.upwork.com/i/freelancing-in-america/2019/
    2001400ex said:

    DJDuck said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)


    I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.

    Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.
    And you know this how? That’s a pretty big statement that you can’t prove HUDS.

    https://www.upwork.com/i/freelancing-in-america/2019/
    JFC

    Stupid post as usual. Where does it say “nobody enjoys freelancing” you motherfucking ignorant moron.

    Lol yes that's the part people are debating and you were questioning.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,173 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)


    I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.

    Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.
    Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.

    Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.

    Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
    Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.
    Way to walk that back.

    So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy.
    I'm walking back nothing. I'm also not the one shrieking that this will "blow up the freelance economy".

    So let's see, H's current argument is that some dog walkers and painters will now be covered as employees as an in favor of AB5.

    Nevermind how many of those people will become unemployed completely as the secondary effect. They didn't actually want those jobs they were freely and voluntarily employed in anyways.

    It's also totally unimportant what other secondary effects this has on the economy.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,621

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    57 million other Americans enjoy freelancing too. (More on this in a bit.)


    I'm sure you'll pick this "fact" apart like you did the 2,900 children dying from guns comment.

    Nobody “enjoys” freelancing like all those kids who take menial jobs walking dogs and painting houses as “independent contractors”.
    Photographers, designers, on demand coders/programmers, contract engineers, owner/operator welders, inspectors, truckers etc.

    Yeah, "menial" jobs. JFC get a fucking clue.

    Oh right, they carved out an exemption for the legal industry.
    Right. 'Cuz when I said there's a lot of bullshit involved in classifying employees as independent contractors, I was obviously saying there are no true independent contractors. Grab a clue yourself.
    Way to walk that back.

    So now I guess your argument is that a few menial jobs misclassified is a reason to blow up the entire freelance economy.
    I'm walking back nothing. I'm also not the one shrieking that this will "blow up the freelance economy".

    So let's see, H's current argument is that some dog walkers and painters will now be covered as employees as an in favor of AB5.

    Nevermind how many of those people will become unemployed completely as the secondary effect. They didn't actually want those jobs they were freely and voluntarily employed in anyways.

    It's also totally unimportant what other secondary effects this has on the economy.
    I thought Daddy created a whole bunch of real jobs. If so, this should all work out.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,988 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Your objection to the three part test for independent contractor status is what? It looks pretty familiar, not novel or new, to those of us who have been involved in commercial law and litigation for more than 30 years.

    Notably absent: "Employment Law."

    Fucking Collection Agency Lawyer, at best.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,621

    HHusky said:

    Your objection to the three part test for independent contractor status is what? It looks pretty familiar, not novel or new, to those of us who have been involved in commercial law and litigation for more than 30 years.

    Notably absent: "Employment Law."

    Fucking Collection Agency Lawyer, at best.
    Take your time. You'll think of something relevant to say . . . conceivably.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,988 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Your objection to the three part test for independent contractor status is what? It looks pretty familiar, not novel or new, to those of us who have been involved in commercial law and litigation for more than 30 years.

    Notably absent: "Employment Law."

    Fucking Collection Agency Lawyer, at best.
    Take your time. You'll think of something relevant to say . . . conceivably.
    What would you know about relevance, flunky?

    That's a legal term. Way beyond your pay-grade.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,621

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Your objection to the three part test for independent contractor status is what? It looks pretty familiar, not novel or new, to those of us who have been involved in commercial law and litigation for more than 30 years.

    Notably absent: "Employment Law."

    Fucking Collection Agency Lawyer, at best.
    Take your time. You'll think of something relevant to say . . . conceivably.
    What would you know about relevance, flunky?

    That's a legal term. Way beyond your pay-grade.
    So too soon, apparently.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,702 Standard Supporter
    So, chief counsel for Uber wanders into the great commercial law and litigator, the Counselor to ask for some legal advice on the new legislation. The Counselor goes full Slo Jo Biden and starts rambling about how great this is for dog walkers let alone Uber independent contractors who don't want to be employees. Next he tells his "client" that Daddy has created so many great jobs who could argue with this attempt to damage Uber's business and their independent drivers. Hilarity ensues. When I say I pity his clients, this is the sharp legal and economic analysis that HH has displayed for years.
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