Legal question
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In a REAL trial you have a thing called discovery. All witnesses are 'discovered' and deposed - by both litigants - prior to a case going to trial.WilburHooksHands said:Is there any other trial circumstance in which a vote is taken not to hear witnesses? What was the original intent behind that in the Senate?
In the context of a REAL trial, what is being asked for here would almost never happen.
Also, nothing is stopping the House from calling and deposing Bolton this minute. And that hasn't happened. -
And remember this is a political process first.
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A solemn one.GrundleStiltzkin said:And remember this is a political process first.
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Right now, the media is all we have. Kind of like being a Mariners fan, reallyRaceBannon said:Wilbur is a smart kid so you can see that the strategy to have no case and then blame the refs can resonate some
Its about all the Democrats have. They get the media to amplify it daily -
This is the essence of the whole deal- i.e., partisan impeachment doesn’t work. Nixon resigned because both sides wanted him out.RaceBannon said:The jury expected the prosecution to have their case made when they presented it
They listened to the House managers and were not impressed
Nixon didn't even have to get to the Senate before he knew he was toast. The House nailed him
Clinton was not removed. I don't recall dire thoughts of the end of America but it was awhile ago
I don’t like Trump. I’d rather the voters remove or not remove him from office. -
The thing I find dumb is that people are like yeah now when a dem president is in office they'll impeach him
No. They realized it backfired. They won't do it. -
you are giving our? congress folks a lot of credit herePitchfork51 said:The thing I find dumb is that people are like yeah now when a dem president is in office they'll impeach him
No. They realized it backfired. They won't do it.
I think it is going to be impeachment free-for-all for the next 6 presidents and then I will be dead and won't care -
I'm more worried this will give president's even more power than they have now.LebamDawg said:
you are giving our? congress folks a lot of credit herePitchfork51 said:The thing I find dumb is that people are like yeah now when a dem president is in office they'll impeach him
No. They realized it backfired. They won't do it.
I think it is going to be impeachment free-for-all for the next 6 presidents and then I will be dead and won't care -
Race will still be here lobbing bombs from the cheap seats. 20 Presidents from now I'd imagine.LebamDawg said:
you are giving our? congress folks a lot of credit herePitchfork51 said:The thing I find dumb is that people are like yeah now when a dem president is in office they'll impeach him
No. They realized it backfired. They won't do it.
I think it is going to be impeachment free-for-all for the next 6 presidents and then I will be dead and won't care -
Kind of depends on the November results. If Trump loses, impeachment is probably the new political tool until it does in fact backfire. If Trump wins, there'll be no shortage of people blaming the House for handing him back the office.Pitchfork51 said:The thing I find dumb is that people are like yeah now when a dem president is in office they'll impeach him
No. They realized it backfired. They won't do it.
The rule of thumb was always you better be damn sure that you have both parties and a large majority of the country behind you if you're going to try to remove POTUS. Regardless of the allegations, I think it's pretty clear the dems never had enough political capital to make this a win in the short-term. Whether or not this third quarter hail merry ends up working is going to be quite the litmus test for future political strategy.
