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Seems like good parenting advice to me
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More money from welfare if you weren't married IIRC.creepycoug said:
You took that from our friend Thomas Sowell. It's a staggering point to consider ... the point that, at the time of massive overt racism (ie, the odds and pressure stacked against them), the black family stayed in tact at a much higher rate.YellowSnow said:
When Moynihan wrote his paper in 1965 the out of wedlock birthrate was 25%. Much higher that whites at the same time which was 3%. It was an alarmingly high number for the time, but still nothing like today- i.e., 72%.SFGbob said:
Look, they know it's a bad idea. But what's easier for them to do? Change the behavior and culture of American blacks, or re-write the value and importance of two parent families and the destruction of such as some kind of blow against Western values the patriarchy and whitey?Bendintheriver said:
Silly me for thinking not having a father around was a bad idea.SFGbob said:Not saying it proves my claim but it definitely supports it. These are the broads that most likely wrote that crap.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/
So after 100 years of Jim Crow and blatant raycism by much of America, 3/4 of black kids were still born to a married mom and dad. Then something happened.
It's rich how the "nuclear family" gets labeled as "western" values. Do Asians not have similar family structures?
I must confess that before becoming acquainted with Sowell I hadn't really thought about or considered it. I figured it was a modern problem and a hangover effect from years of that very same overt racism. -
Catholic schools have one thing the public schools don’t.creepycoug said:
IMHO, the Catholic schools aren't worth the money. Not around here anyway. In places like Miami, where there are tons of them, there are some pretty top notch ones that are really just prep schools. Around here? Eh. They're good, mind you. Don't twist. But Eastside Catholic is not Lakeside or Bush. Not even close. same with O'Dea.YellowSnow said:
I'm North of the Ship Canal. I have many Odea and other Catholic School Frens. My father in law went to ND. It's just not for me.huskyhooligan said:
Shots fired at Blanchet, Odea, Eastside Catholic!creepycoug said:
Or live in a school district that GAF or is otherwise surrounded by wealth.salemcoog said:It’s sad that the Gubment destroyed the charter school system. It was on its way too. Now your only hope is private and home school. And home school kids are usually fucked up. So there’s really only one option.
What I have found in the whole school bit is this: the teachers and the equipment and facilities are secondary. The single most important thing (other than, you know, you, the fucking parent) is this: who are your kids' classmates? That simple. The smarter and more ambitious they are, and by implication the fewer future losers with whom they can hook up or by whom they can be influenced, the better the odds your kid will be ok.
Here's another tip if you're in Seattle: if you can find a public school with a good IB program, and if your kid can handle it, jump in. It's a $48,000 / year Lakeside education on the taxpayers. Two of my three did it. It's not the most fun way to go through school. That whole "good students get to lay back senior year because they earned it" shit doesn't happen in IB. It gets progressively more intense and senior year is a nightmare of work, and stress, especially if they do anything else like sports. But selective colleges love it and, again, it's free.
Otherwise, yeah, private school. And be warned - there are a lot of shit and turkey private schools. Don't confuse regular parochial Catholic school as elite. It's nothing of the sort. There are some good ones, but most are mediocre af.
Basically, try to keep your kids north of downtown.
If south of downtown, hope your kids are going to school with other gentrified kids. The current trajectory is that it'll catch up in the next 15 years or so, unless of course the schools do something FS like mandatory busing again.
Catholic schoolgirls.
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Free Pub.PurpleThrobber said:
Catholic schools have one thing the public schools don’t.creepycoug said:
IMHO, the Catholic schools aren't worth the money. Not around here anyway. In places like Miami, where there are tons of them, there are some pretty top notch ones that are really just prep schools. Around here? Eh. They're good, mind you. Don't twist. But Eastside Catholic is not Lakeside or Bush. Not even close. same with O'Dea.YellowSnow said:
I'm North of the Ship Canal. I have many Odea and other Catholic School Frens. My father in law went to ND. It's just not for me.huskyhooligan said:
Shots fired at Blanchet, Odea, Eastside Catholic!creepycoug said:
Or live in a school district that GAF or is otherwise surrounded by wealth.salemcoog said:It’s sad that the Gubment destroyed the charter school system. It was on its way too. Now your only hope is private and home school. And home school kids are usually fucked up. So there’s really only one option.
What I have found in the whole school bit is this: the teachers and the equipment and facilities are secondary. The single most important thing (other than, you know, you, the fucking parent) is this: who are your kids' classmates? That simple. The smarter and more ambitious they are, and by implication the fewer future losers with whom they can hook up or by whom they can be influenced, the better the odds your kid will be ok.
Here's another tip if you're in Seattle: if you can find a public school with a good IB program, and if your kid can handle it, jump in. It's a $48,000 / year Lakeside education on the taxpayers. Two of my three did it. It's not the most fun way to go through school. That whole "good students get to lay back senior year because they earned it" shit doesn't happen in IB. It gets progressively more intense and senior year is a nightmare of work, and stress, especially if they do anything else like sports. But selective colleges love it and, again, it's free.
Otherwise, yeah, private school. And be warned - there are a lot of shit and turkey private schools. Don't confuse regular parochial Catholic school as elite. It's nothing of the sort. There are some good ones, but most are mediocre af.
Basically, try to keep your kids north of downtown.
If south of downtown, hope your kids are going to school with other gentrified kids. The current trajectory is that it'll catch up in the next 15 years or so, unless of course the schools do something FS like mandatory busing again.
Catholic schoolgirls.
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Kennedy is very solid and wisely flies under the radar with Normandy Park, Des Moines and West Seattle kids. Mention it's Burien address and you might disappear forever.huskyhooligan said:
Shots fired at Blanchet, Odea, Eastside Catholic!creepycoug said:
Or live in a school district that GAF or is otherwise surrounded by wealth.salemcoog said:It’s sad that the Gubment destroyed the charter school system. It was on its way too. Now your only hope is private and home school. And home school kids are usually fucked up. So there’s really only one option.
What I have found in the whole school bit is this: the teachers and the equipment and facilities are secondary. The single most important thing (other than, you know, you, the fucking parent) is this: who are your kids' classmates? That simple. The smarter and more ambitious they are, and by implication the fewer future losers with whom they can hook up or by whom they can be influenced, the better the odds your kid will be ok.
Here's another tip if you're in Seattle: if you can find a public school with a good IB program, and if your kid can handle it, jump in. It's a $48,000 / year Lakeside education on the taxpayers. Two of my three did it. It's not the most fun way to go through school. That whole "good students get to lay back senior year because they earned it" shit doesn't happen in IB. It gets progressively more intense and senior year is a nightmare of work, and stress, especially if they do anything else like sports. But selective colleges love it and, again, it's free.
Otherwise, yeah, private school. And be warned - there are a lot of shit and turkey private schools. Don't confuse regular parochial Catholic school as elite. It's nothing of the sort. There are some good ones, but most are mediocre af.
Basically, try to keep your kids north of downtown.
If south of downtown, hope your kids are going to school with other gentrified kids. The current trajectory is that it'll catch up in the next 15 years or so, unless of course the schools do something FS like mandatory busing again.
Franklin has quietly risen back to respectability in academics since the North Beacon hill Asian kids returned from Garfield.
Garfield still pretty much has it all, but the admins are idiots and a lot of it's best teachers bolted to the recently re-opened Lincoln HS in Wallingford. They don't throw useless tantrums they call "protests" in Wallingford like they do on 23rd & Cherry. But Quincy Jones, Jimmy Hendrix and especially Debbie Armstrong still have pull over there and lots of money along the lake. -
Fuck any Democrat who abides by that bullshit. It's the main reason Trump won in 2016 and will win again in 2020.YellowSnow said:
When Moynihan wrote his paper in 1965 the out of wedlock birthrate was 25%. Much higher that whites at the same time which was 3%. It was an alarmingly high number for the time, but still nothing like today- i.e., 72%.SFGbob said:
Look, they know it's a bad idea. But what's easier for them to do? Change the behavior and culture of American blacks, or re-write the value and importance of two parent families and the destruction of such as some kind of blow against Western values the patriarchy and whitey?Bendintheriver said:
Silly me for thinking not having a father around was a bad idea.SFGbob said:Not saying it proves my claim but it definitely supports it. These are the broads that most likely wrote that crap.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/
So after 100 years of Jim Crow and blatant raycism by much of America, 3/4 of black kids were still born to a married mom and dad. Then something happened.
It's rich how the "nuclear family" gets labeled as "western" values. Do Asians not have similar family structures?
