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Study: Earth was warmer in Roman, Medieval times

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  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Race logic isn't really a strong point for these boreds. Just say there is overwhelming evidence yet not poast a link, that is how this baby operates/
  • fivehundredmileDAWGfivehundredmileDAWG Member Posts: 1,212
    As long as there is beer in the fridge and Bowel Gaymes on my TV all this environment shit is a non-issue.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013

    Race logic isn't really a strong point for these boreds. Just say there is overwhelming evidence yet not poast a link, that is how this baby operates/

    Ok. How about an independent study that found skeptics' claims unfounded?

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=three-quarters-of-climate

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/21/world/americas/climate-study-warming-real/index.html

    Here are some graphs

    image

    image

    image


    I particularly like this one because there have been posts recently about the ice returning. If you look at the overall trend this anomaly has happened in the past, but the overall decline continues.

    image

    There's plenty more beyond this.

  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,424 Founders Club

    I implore you to come back with some tangible evidence gathered by an independent study.

    That's fucking rich.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,139 Founders Club

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
    And these are the "smart" people that know more than all us tea party rubes who listen to Glen Beck and Faux news and Exxon and shit

    thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/five-years-ago-today-al-gore-predicted-the-north-pole-will-be-ice-free-in-5-years/
    lol Gateway Pundit? Wtf is that?

    You're better than this Race.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013
    Should add this graph for good measure

    image

    You wanted real evidence? Here it is. It sure as hell beats using ridiculous claim by known retard Al Gore as a counter argument.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,139 Founders Club
    Bob Ward of the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment, said: "It is clear that greater transparency is required in climate research because of the intense public interest in it, and its profound implications for society. However, it is also now very apparent that many so-called sceptics owe a huge apology to the public for having presented the email messages as evidence that climate change is a hoax carried out by a conspiracy of dishonest scientists."

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jul/08/muir-russell-climategate-climate-science
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,789 Founders Club

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
    And these are the "smart" people that know more than all us tea party rubes who listen to Glen Beck and Faux news and Exxon and shit

    thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/five-years-ago-today-al-gore-predicted-the-north-pole-will-be-ice-free-in-5-years/
    lol Gateway Pundit? Wtf is that?

    You're better than this Race.
    Did he say it or didn't he?
  • Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
    And these are the "smart" people that know more than all us tea party rubes who listen to Glen Beck and Faux news and Exxon and shit

    thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/five-years-ago-today-al-gore-predicted-the-north-pole-will-be-ice-free-in-5-years/
    lol Gateway Pundit? Wtf is that?

    You're better than this Race.
    Did he say it or didn't he?
    He did. It's worthy of an article, and Al Gore should be shamed.

    But it shouldn't be used as ammo for the skeptics because Al Gore is known for over exaggeration and putting his foot in his mouth.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    So what if the climate changes? It's changed several times and will continue to do so, with us or without us. The poles will eventually reverse again, and we are in fact due for that to happen. Someday, the sun will start to become a red giant and burn the solar system to ashes. The planet is active and changing. We simply happen to be here at a time that is hospitable to supporting life. Right now it's just a mater of people fighting over control and money. There are billions and maybe trillions at stake as well as government control of the people. Of course there will be a fight.
  • Dick_BDick_B Member Posts: 1,301

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    So what if the climate changes? It's changed several times and will continue to do so, with us or without us. The poles will eventually reverse again, and we are in fact due for that to happen. Someday, the sun will start to become a red giant and burn the solar system to ashes. The planet is active and changing. We simply happen to be here at a time that is hospitable to supporting life. Right now it's just a mater of people fighting over control and money. There are billions and maybe trillions at stake as well as government control of the people. Of course there will be a fight.
    Hopefully after Labor Day. That would be a mess if I was wearing white pants.
  • Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    So what if the climate changes? It's changed several times and will continue to do so, with us or without us. The poles will eventually reverse again, and we are in fact due for that to happen. Someday, the sun will start to become a red giant and burn the solar system to ashes. The planet is active and changing. We simply happen to be here at a time that is hospitable to supporting life. Right now it's just a mater of people fighting over control and money. There are billions and maybe trillions at stake as well as government control of the people. Of course there will be a fight.
    I agree. The climate is changing. It's not going to be as bad as most people are predicting. It's not going to be disastrous to the world.

    The economic crisis that will result in our over reliance on fossil fuels is looming, however.

    My crusade has been against those denying that climate change is man-made, because all the evidence points against them.

    The Billions at stake is a sad result of this conflict, and the climate skeptics are delaying efforts that need to go into finding renewable energy. That's my biggest grievance.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,789 Founders Club
    edited December 2013
    A warm earth is better for us. So we have that going for us which is nice. None of us want to give up the great life carbon gives us. That's my complaint- I don't like making it more expensive for no practical reason. Or even five reasons.

    The oil companies that are villified will be the companies that actually succeed in alt energy because they will make it profitable. I mock Gore because he represents a movement that squanders billions on losers like Solandra.

    Two things that will never be free - healthcare and energy
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013

    A warm earth is better for us. So we have that going for us which is nice. None of us want to give up the great life carbon gives us. That's my complaint- I don't like making it more expensive for no practical reason. Or even five reasons.

    The oil companies that are villified will be the companies that actually succeed in alt energy because they will make it profitable. I mock Gore because he represents a movement that squanders billions on losers like Solandra.

    Two things that will never be free - healthcare and energy

    Ocean Acidification disagrees. In fact, there are numerous consequences of a warmer earth.


    The problem is the great life carbon gives us is coming to an end. It is practical to find renewable solutions for long term health of not just the energy industry but mankind.

    Agree on the last part. Look at Tesla as an example. Exxon's foray into Algae research shows that is also in line with your statement. http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Biofuels/Exxons-100m-Algae-Investment-Falls-Flat.html

    But the problem is these big companies are still, for the most part, ignoring it, paving the way for an energy crisis.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,789 Founders Club
    A cold earth is far worse. Death disease and starvation. Ocean acidification is probably over blown at this point. As far as we know there have never been as many humans alive on earth as there are now. The mini ice age was a killer. And not all that long ago.

    The end of oil is another often wrongly predicted event. A little more real world experience will show you that too.

    Alarmists have always been with us and the young are most susceptible to them.

    I'd bet Sven's 20 bucks oil companies and other corps are indeed planning for the next thing. There is carbon is space. Its just so damn efficient. We are carbon beings in a carbon universe
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013

    A cold earth is far worse. Death disease and starvation.

    Are you comparing this to pre-1900 temperatures? Couldn't that also be attributed to the lack of disease preventing medicines?

    Ocean acidification is probably over blown at this point. As far as we know there have never been as many humans alive on earth as there are now. The mini ice age was a killer. And not all that long ago.

    Fair enough

    The end of oil is another often wrongly predicted event. A little more real world experience will show you that too.

    Oil reserves are depleting. This is fact. Production has peaked within the last10 years and literally every study shows that by 2050 we are fucked.

    image

    Alarmists have always been with us and the young are most susceptible to them.

    Low tweak

    I'd bet Sven's 20 bucks oil companies and other corps are indeed planning for the next thing.

    That's speculation. The investment figures show a minimal effort to find alternatives

    There is carbon is space. Its just so damn efficient. We are carbon beings in a carbon universe

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    A cold earth is far worse. Death disease and starvation. Ocean acidification is probably over blown at this point. As far as we know there have never been as many humans alive on earth as there are now. The mini ice age was a killer. And not all that long ago.

    The end of oil is another often wrongly predicted event. A little more real world experience will show you that too.

    Alarmists have always been with us and the young are most susceptible to them.

    I'd bet Sven's 20 bucks oil companies and other corps are indeed planning for the next thing. There is carbon is space. Its just so damn efficient. We are carbon beings in a carbon universe

    Carbon based energy is by far the most portable, most readily available, and provides the most energy per dollar than any other source. It isn't even close. And to say we are going run out in 100 years is 100% false. Check the facts. So the solution has become make the carbon fuels artificially more expenses through taxation and fees. In fact, taxes collected from a gallon of gas far exceed the evil oil company profits. It's a sweet gig for the government. No risk and reap billions. If you look at oil company profits, they are in line with other business and industries.
  • PRedoubtPRedoubt Member Posts: 141
    edited December 2013

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    What? CLIMATEGATE!!??!? Or whatever grand "exposé" that showed s few scientists tried to silence others?

    The evidence against is mostly politicization like changing the name. They can critique the semantics but not the actual fucking data.

    And please if you're gonna bring data to the table it better not be from the dailycaller, red state.com, breitbart, or studies paid for by climate change denial groups.
    So, only data from Democrat administrations paying scientists to come to conclusions that add to their funding next year are acceptable?

    image

    When did the lesson "Question Authority", become "Question only the authority that doesn't support your position, you racist bastard" ???
  • PRedoubtPRedoubt Member Posts: 141

    Race logic isn't really a strong point for these boreds. Just say there is overwhelming evidence yet not poast a link, that is how this baby operates/

    Ok. How about an independent study that found skeptics' claims unfounded?

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=three-quarters-of-climate

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/21/world/americas/climate-study-warming-real/index.html

    Here are some graphs

    image

    image

    image


    I particularly like this one because there have been posts recently about the ice returning. If you look at the overall trend this anomaly has happened in the past, but the overall decline continues.

    image

    There's plenty more beyond this.

    A warm earth is better for us. So we have that going for us which is nice. None of us want to give up the great life carbon gives us. That's my complaint- I don't like making it more expensive for no practical reason. Or even five reasons.

    The oil companies that are villified will be the companies that actually succeed in alt energy because they will make it profitable. I mock Gore because he represents a movement that squanders billions on losers like Solandra.

    Two things that will never be free - healthcare and energy

    Ocean Acidification disagrees. In fact, there are numerous consequences of a warmer earth.


    The problem is the great life carbon gives us is coming to an end. It is practical to find renewable solutions for long term health of not just the energy industry but mankind.

    Agree on the last part. Look at Tesla as an example. Exxon's foray into Algae research shows that is also in line with your statement. http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Biofuels/Exxons-100m-Algae-Investment-Falls-Flat.html

    But the problem is these big companies are still, for the most part, ignoring it, paving the way for an energy crisis.
    Hey dipshit, would you believe NASA?
    naturalnews.com/040448_solar_radiation_global_warming_debunked.html
  • PRedoubt said:

    Race logic isn't really a strong point for these boreds. Just say there is overwhelming evidence yet not poast a link, that is how this baby operates/

    Ok. How about an independent study that found skeptics' claims unfounded?

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=three-quarters-of-climate

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/21/world/americas/climate-study-warming-real/index.html

    Here are some graphs

    image

    image

    image


    I particularly like this one because there have been posts recently about the ice returning. If you look at the overall trend this anomaly has happened in the past, but the overall decline continues.

    image

    There's plenty more beyond this.

    A warm earth is better for us. So we have that going for us which is nice. None of us want to give up the great life carbon gives us. That's my complaint- I don't like making it more expensive for no practical reason. Or even five reasons.

    The oil companies that are villified will be the companies that actually succeed in alt energy because they will make it profitable. I mock Gore because he represents a movement that squanders billions on losers like Solandra.

    Two things that will never be free - healthcare and energy

    Ocean Acidification disagrees. In fact, there are numerous consequences of a warmer earth.


    The problem is the great life carbon gives us is coming to an end. It is practical to find renewable solutions for long term health of not just the energy industry but mankind.

    Agree on the last part. Look at Tesla as an example. Exxon's foray into Algae research shows that is also in line with your statement. http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Biofuels/Exxons-100m-Algae-Investment-Falls-Flat.html

    But the problem is these big companies are still, for the most part, ignoring it, paving the way for an energy crisis.
    Hey dipshit, would you believe NASA?
    naturalnews.com/040448_solar_radiation_global_warming_debunked.html
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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