The truth must be told.

MikeDamone

UW isn't even close to being a national title contender and if they ever are, it probably won't be in our lifetimes. They weren't 2016 either. Not even close.

Gladstone

Flip Browning and Watson as QBs for Clemson/Washington and the 2016 UW team wins that playoff IMO.

Otherwise I agree with overall point. We missed our shot, and now we're hiring Make-A-Wish people for our OC roles. We've become the laughingstock of the conference in a manner of weeks.

FireCohen

Disagree, the 2016 team was special. It was one offensive lineman and slightly better QB away

FireCohen

Gladstone said:

Flip Browning and Watson as QBs for Clemson/Washington and the 2016 UW team wins that playoff IMO.

Otherwise I agree with overall point. We missed our shot, and now we're hiring Make-A-Wish people for our OC roles. We've become the laughingstock of the conference in a manner of weeks.

I like this new nega Gladstone

MikeDamone

Gladstone said:

Flip Browning and Watson as QBs for Clemson/Washington and the 2016 UW team wins that playoff IMO.

Otherwise I agree with overall point. We missed our shot, and now we're hiring Make-A-Wish people for our OC roles. We've become the laughingstock of the conference in a manner of weeks.

So what you're saying is with different players UW had a chance. Makes sense. DAWG sense.

MikeDamone

FireCohen said:

Disagree, the 2016 team was special. It was one offensive lineman and slightly better QB away

Disagree with what? You just said they didn't have the players to contend. That's what I said.

DoubleJDawg

It’s easier to understand when you take a step back or walk for perspective and observe there is no one in the entire university, AD, or football program who really aspires to be in the playoff or winning a natty

We’ve heard this directly from Cohen and Peterman, but even our hallowed cocky Lake made sure to reference winning a “Pac-12 championship” as more meaningful than landing big recruiting classes. They believe in a natty so little (and believe their fan base doesn’t either) they don’t even blow sunshine up our asses about it

skookum

And if a frog had wings he wouldn’t bump his ass

MikeDamone

DoubleJDawg said:

It’s easier to understand when you take a step back or walk for perspective and observe there is no one in the entire university, AD, or football program who really aspires to be in the playoff or winning a natty

We’ve heard this directly from Cohen and Peterman, but even our hallowed cocky Lake made sure to reference winning a “Pac-12 championship” as more meaningful than landing big recruiting classes. They believe in a natty so little (and believe their fan base doesn’t either) they don’t even blow sunshine up our asses about it

And do it the "right way"

DoubleJDawg

MikeDamone said:

DoubleJDawg said:

It’s easier to understand when you take a step back or walk for perspective and observe there is no one in the entire university, AD, or football program who really aspires to be in the playoff or winning a natty

We’ve heard this directly from Cohen and Peterman, but even our hallowed cocky Lake made sure to reference winning a “Pac-12 championship” as more meaningful than landing big recruiting classes. They believe in a natty so little (and believe their fan base doesn’t either) they don’t even blow sunshine up our asses about it

And do it the "right way"

Do it the right way “aggressively”

MikeDamone

DoubleJDawg said:

MikeDamone said:

DoubleJDawg said:

It’s easier to understand when you take a step back or walk for perspective and observe there is no one in the entire university, AD, or football program who really aspires to be in the playoff or winning a natty

We’ve heard this directly from Cohen and Peterman, but even our hallowed cocky Lake made sure to reference winning a “Pac-12 championship” as more meaningful than landing big recruiting classes. They believe in a natty so little (and believe their fan base doesn’t either) they don’t even blow sunshine up our asses about it

And do it the "right way"

Do it the right way “aggressively”

Or just do what it takes

AtomicDawg

We are never going to have a full stock of dudes like these teams athletically. We could have a lot of first teamers that fit the bill though. We are going to need a generational talent at an most likely though and it’s possible. Not saying Huard is that guy so don’t twist.

That being said we made a stupid hire at oc so none of this matters.

MikeDamone

AtomicDawg said:

We are never going to have a full stock of dudes like these teams athletically. We could have a lot of first teamers that fit the bill though. We are going to need a generational talent at an most likely though and it’s possible. Not saying Huard is that guy so don’t twist.

That being said we made a stupid hire at oc so none of this matters.

So you're agreeing with me.

Kingdome_Urinals

We could have a defense as good as either of these teams. We nearly did in 2016 and within a couple years we could have a comparable group, especially if we get some better edge pressure (Latu, Smalls, Tryon, etc.). Not quite the depth as has been pointed out.

On the offensive side it's probably a different story. Just because each team has a generational talent at QB plus insane RBs, and WRs.

UW's ceiling is probably getting to this game and losing by 14-17 points.

Dugdawg

MikeDamone said:

DoubleJDawg said:

MikeDamone said:

DoubleJDawg said:

It’s easier to understand when you take a step back or walk for perspective and observe there is no one in the entire university, AD, or football program who really aspires to be in the playoff or winning a natty

We’ve heard this directly from Cohen and Peterman, but even our hallowed cocky Lake made sure to reference winning a “Pac-12 championship” as more meaningful than landing big recruiting classes. They believe in a natty so little (and believe their fan base doesn’t either) they don’t even blow sunshine up our asses about it

And do it the "right way"

Do it the right way “aggressively”

Or just do what it takes

I'm not convinced there are enuf coffee cups in the world to make a difference.

DoubleJDawg

MikeDamone said:

AtomicDawg said:

We are never going to have a full stock of dudes like these teams athletically. We could have a lot of first teamers that fit the bill though. We are going to need a generational talent at an most likely though and it’s possible. Not saying Huard is that guy so don’t twist.

That being said we made a stupid hire at oc so none of this matters.

So you're agreeing with me.

We could have a team close to this athletically in our footprint if
1) We prioritized recruiting AND coaching in all of our position coaches
2) We included transfers in our recruitment strategy - at any position at any time
3) We played the best players based on ability (not practice kiss-ass-ery) regardless of class and let them development- and ran off the shit players to be replaced with new ones

So basically no margin for error, and in other words Damone is right

dnc

Kingdome_Urinals said:

We could have a defense as good as either of these teams. We nearly did in 2016 and within a couple years we could have a comparable group, especially if we get some better edge pressure (Latu, Smalls, Tryon, etc.). Not quite the depth as has been pointed out.

On the offensive side it's probably a different story. Just because each team has a generational talent at QB plus insane RBs, and WRs.

UW's ceiling is probably getting to this game and losing by 14-17 points.

McMillian, Odunze, Egbuka and Franklin (if you can get the latter two) would be a receiving core on the level of what you're watching tonight.

And we have the potential generational QB coming in.

It's not at all impossible from where we are, especially considering we have actual pass rushers in the depth going forward.

That's why the OC hire was such a disaster.

MikeDamone

Kingdome_Urinals said:

We could have a defense as good as either of these teams. We nearly did in 2016 and within a couple years we could have a comparable group, especially if we get some better edge pressure (Latu, Smalls, Tryon, etc.). Not quite the depth as has been pointed out.

On the offensive side it's probably a different story. Just because each team has a generational talent at QB plus insane RBs, and WRs.

UW's ceiling is probably getting to this game and losing by 14-17 points.

"Could. Nearly. Couple of years. Comparable. If. Not quite. Different. Generational. "

You serious Clark?

Kingdome_Urinals

MikeDamone said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

We could have a defense as good as either of these teams. We nearly did in 2016 and within a couple years we could have a comparable group, especially if we get some better edge pressure (Latu, Smalls, Tryon, etc.). Not quite the depth as has been pointed out.

On the offensive side it's probably a different story. Just because each team has a generational talent at QB plus insane RBs, and WRs.

UW's ceiling is probably getting to this game and losing by 14-17 points.

"Could. Nearly. Couple of years. Comparable. If. Not quite. Different. Generational. "

You serious Clark?

Each of these defenses tonight are good to give up 40+ points. Nobody is throwing a shutout. UW can give up 40 just as well as anyone.

Kingdome_Urinals

MikeDamone said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

We could have a defense as good as either of these teams. We nearly did in 2016 and within a couple years we could have a comparable group, especially if we get some better edge pressure (Latu, Smalls, Tryon, etc.). Not quite the depth as has been pointed out.

On the offensive side it's probably a different story. Just because each team has a generational talent at QB plus insane RBs, and WRs.

UW's ceiling is probably getting to this game and losing by 14-17 points.

"Could. Nearly. Couple of years. Comparable. If. Not quite. Different. Generational. "

You serious Clark?

We won't have a QB as good as either of these guys however.

AtomicDawg

AtomicDawg said:

We are never going to have a full stock of dudes like these teams athletically. We could have a lot of first teamers that fit the bill though. We are going to need a generational talent at an most likely though and it’s possible. Not saying Huard is that guy so don’t twist.

That being said we made a stupid hire at oc so none of this matters.

I know you’re not dumb but you like to portray yourself that way for some reason. The logicial conclusion would be to look at clemsons team with Watson. That is attainable and explains the very team that myself and others are describing.

Dig deeper.