For those that were happy Pete retired so we could get more energy into the program...
FML...this hire reminds me of this guy:
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If that’s Lappano he was a better hire. Ty was too. At least they had a little bit of coaching success in their careers. This clown has none.
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That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
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I'm still happy Pete retired.
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I'd take Pete back in a heartbeat.haie said:I'm still happy Pete retired.
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I'm not ready to anoint this a shit hire just yet. I've seen way too many assistant coaches at both the collegiate and professional level completely defy expectations (for better or worse) that were widely held. Every year of football is another data point of how much we fans truly don't know what it takes to be successful in this profession.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow...
Now I am comfortable anointing it as an underwhelming hire, and given his resume it's definitely not something to celebrate, like, say, hiring Moorehead would be. Given that Jimmy is a brand new coach with no offensive experience, I'd be a lot more comfortable if we threw bags of money at a surefire offensive mind who could totally own that side of the ball. Jimmy proving that he was a guy who could inspire confidence in other high profile coaches and get them in the boat would have been a good indictment of his executive acumen. That didn't happen.
But he still gets the chance to strike out on his own where it actually matters. LIFPO. -
I probably would since he wouldn't be running Pete's offense anymore.Mooser42 said:
I am interested in seeing us run a different offense finally.
And that's the best thing I can say about this hire. It's *different*.
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I think he's already been anointed QB coach.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow... -
Donovan is the QB coach too. Huard is going to decommit.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow... -
Huard isn't leaving.insinceredawg said:
Donovan is the QB coach too. Huard is going to decommit.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow...
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Pete is staying on as an offensive analyst
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I was confused by the Brian Schottenheimer hire, and he has been great. But Pete Carroll was a proven commodity as a head coach. Lake isnt. So I give some merit to your comment, but it doesn't change the fact that this hire is a foolish risk.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'm not ready to anoint this a shit hire just yet. I've seen way too many assistant coaches at both the collegiate and professional level completely defy expectations (for better or worse) that were widely held. Every year of football is another data point of how much we fans truly don't know what it takes to be successful in this profession.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow...
Now I am comfortable anointing it as an underwhelming hire, and given his resume it's definitely not something to celebrate, like, say, hiring Moorehead would be. Given that Jimmy is a brand new coach with no offensive experience, I'd be a lot more comfortable if we threw bags of money at a surefire offensive mind who could totally own that side of the ball. Jimmy proving that he was a guy who could inspire confidence in other high profile coaches and get them in the boat would have been a good indictment of his executive acumen. That didn't happen.
But he still gets the chance to strike out on his own where it actually matters. LIFPO. -
Schottenheimer sucksDerekJohnson said:
I was confused by the Brian Schottenheimer hire, and he has been great. But Pete Carroll was a proven commodity as a head coach. Lake isnt. So I give some merit to your comment, but it doesn't change the fact that this hire is a foolish risk.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'm not ready to anoint this a shit hire just yet. I've seen way too many assistant coaches at both the collegiate and professional level completely defy expectations (for better or worse) that were widely held. Every year of football is another data point of how much we fans truly don't know what it takes to be successful in this profession.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow...
Now I am comfortable anointing it as an underwhelming hire, and given his resume it's definitely not something to celebrate, like, say, hiring Moorehead would be. Given that Jimmy is a brand new coach with no offensive experience, I'd be a lot more comfortable if we threw bags of money at a surefire offensive mind who could totally own that side of the ball. Jimmy proving that he was a guy who could inspire confidence in other high profile coaches and get them in the boat would have been a good indictment of his executive acumen. That didn't happen.
But he still gets the chance to strike out on his own where it actually matters. LIFPO. -
I should say Schottenheimer sucks as an OC/play caller. He's been surprisingly good as a QB coach.
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Disagree. He's had some shit moments, but to even keep this team in games with the patchwork OL they have is a feat in and of itself. And last year was a resoundingly successful offensive year, brought down by an awful defense.dnc said:
Schottenheimer sucksDerekJohnson said:
I was confused by the Brian Schottenheimer hire, and he has been great. But Pete Carroll was a proven commodity as a head coach. Lake isnt. So I give some merit to your comment, but it doesn't change the fact that this hire is a foolish risk.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'm not ready to anoint this a shit hire just yet. I've seen way too many assistant coaches at both the collegiate and professional level completely defy expectations (for better or worse) that were widely held. Every year of football is another data point of how much we fans truly don't know what it takes to be successful in this profession.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow...
Now I am comfortable anointing it as an underwhelming hire, and given his resume it's definitely not something to celebrate, like, say, hiring Moorehead would be. Given that Jimmy is a brand new coach with no offensive experience, I'd be a lot more comfortable if we threw bags of money at a surefire offensive mind who could totally own that side of the ball. Jimmy proving that he was a guy who could inspire confidence in other high profile coaches and get them in the boat would have been a good indictment of his executive acumen. That didn't happen.
But he still gets the chance to strike out on his own where it actually matters. LIFPO. -
Last year was better than this year (still bad though since offensive play calling lost us the playoff game).GreenRiverGatorz said:
Disagree. He's had some shit moments, but to even keep this team in games with the patchwork OL they have is a feat in and of itself. And last year was a resoundingly successful offensive year, brought down by an awful defense.dnc said:
Schottenheimer sucksDerekJohnson said:
I was confused by the Brian Schottenheimer hire, and he has been great. But Pete Carroll was a proven commodity as a head coach. Lake isnt. So I give some merit to your comment, but it doesn't change the fact that this hire is a foolish risk.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'm not ready to anoint this a shit hire just yet. I've seen way too many assistant coaches at both the collegiate and professional level completely defy expectations (for better or worse) that were widely held. Every year of football is another data point of how much we fans truly don't know what it takes to be successful in this profession.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow...
Now I am comfortable anointing it as an underwhelming hire, and given his resume it's definitely not something to celebrate, like, say, hiring Moorehead would be. Given that Jimmy is a brand new coach with no offensive experience, I'd be a lot more comfortable if we threw bags of money at a surefire offensive mind who could totally own that side of the ball. Jimmy proving that he was a guy who could inspire confidence in other high profile coaches and get them in the boat would have been a good indictment of his executive acumen. That didn't happen.
But he still gets the chance to strike out on his own where it actually matters. LIFPO.
This year he runs on first down far far far too much to be a good play caller.
He has an elite QB and fails to recognize it most of the time.
It's probably mostly Pete but the over-reliance on the run is exactly why Pete wanted him in the first place, so it's both of them.
I would argue he's had some brilliant moments (the bomb to DK to ice the game Sunday was an amazing call). But more often than not he's bad. -
Here's how you balance out the hire of Donovan. Got get Ryan Gunderson from San Jose. West coast guy with lots of contacts. Good recruiter. Delegate the passing side of the offense to him and let Donovan coordinate the run side and call plays. Gunderson would also coach the QB's and TE's. It's got potential.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow... -
TSIOwhuggy said:
Here's how you balance out the hire of Donovan. Got get Ryan Gunderson from San Jose. West coast guy with lots of contacts. Good recruiter. Delegate the passing side of the offense to him and let Donovan coordinate the run side and call plays. Gunderson would also coach the QB's and TE's. It's got potential.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow... -
We haven’t even really mentioned that the next QB Donovan develops into a good player will be his first.
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Fucking hell
He didn’t even need to leave the building and he could’ve hired someone more qualified.
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Bush was actually a position coach at least.HuskyJW said:Fucking hell
He didn’t even need to leave the building and he could’ve hired someone more qualified.
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schotty has done some good things but "great" is incredibly strong wordage considering...most of the things DNC said. repeatedly running into a wall against dallas last year in an eminently winnable game, rarely letting russell cook, situational horrors like the 49ers delay.DerekJohnson said:
I was confused by the Brian Schottenheimer hire, and he has been great. But Pete Carroll was a proven commodity as a head coach. Lake isnt. So I give some merit to your comment, but it doesn't change the fact that this hire is a foolish risk.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'm not ready to anoint this a shit hire just yet. I've seen way too many assistant coaches at both the collegiate and professional level completely defy expectations (for better or worse) that were widely held. Every year of football is another data point of how much we fans truly don't know what it takes to be successful in this profession.HoustonHusky said:That's Ed Donatell, the "savior" of our defense who was going to bring "NFL experience" and managed to lead a defense that gave up something like 38 points a game on its way to going 0-12.
The only slight non-negative from this shite of a hire I can see is if they put him in as OC/RB coach and way overpay to bring in some QB coach that knows something, can be a co-OC, and can recruit.
How the hell did Pete let this happen? And did Jimmy just make a shite hire to prove he could go outside of Pete's influence?
What a shiteshow...
Now I am comfortable anointing it as an underwhelming hire, and given his resume it's definitely not something to celebrate, like, say, hiring Moorehead would be. Given that Jimmy is a brand new coach with no offensive experience, I'd be a lot more comfortable if we threw bags of money at a surefire offensive mind who could totally own that side of the ball. Jimmy proving that he was a guy who could inspire confidence in other high profile coaches and get them in the boat would have been a good indictment of his executive acumen. That didn't happen.
But he still gets the chance to strike out on his own where it actually matters. LIFPO.
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Seahawks OC isn’t that hard if a job. A great QB does most the work in the league.
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D/F were the obvious two that shouldn't be grouped together.Emoterman said:
