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PurpleThrobber
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Primarily aimed at our esteemed poasters with military experience:
Has the military re-instituted a draft or are current members serving of their own volition knowing the risks/rewards of said chosen field of employment?
Has the military re-instituted a draft or are current members serving of their own volition knowing the risks/rewards of said chosen field of employment?
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I'm also hearing that current service members were told they would never be in danger and all the pew pew they did in training was just to keep them busy.
Being a Vet not sure what you mean by the question Mr. Throbber
the guys that have gone into the service knew kind of what they were getting into, I think. Recruiters tell them a line of BS just like anywhere.
Reasons for going into the military is so varied it is impossible to say really. Running from commitments, family, proving a point, God and country, hate? who knows
It kind of turned around a little because of 9/11 -
but before that I had given up on the Liberal/Far Right side for spewing their hate - and seemed to be the extreme left of the dems and of course the fringe socialist parties, and the extreme right on the repubs and their neo-nazi gropus.
You mention neo-nazi's. Is there such a thing in the NW? I have never seen any neo-nazi's even when I was in politics. Never have ever seen them here in the SE. I know that there are some in the world and the lib media focuses on them as if they were a mainstream group which they aren't, but it sounds like you actually ran into some and I am curious where. This is a real question and I am not disagreeing with you at all. Just curious.
I know people don't like to know these facts but this shit really happened. You can call bullshit all you want, but it was reality, and you would be wrong.
I happen to hang with a lot of Vets from Vietnam. Many now in their mid 70's. There isn't one who doesn't have stories to tell about how they were treated. I know a couple that couldn't cope with it so they found jobs on the army bases here in Atlanta to shield themselves from the assholes. One just retired from running the class 6 at a base in town here. He ran it since 1977 and he is thankful that he never had to work off base during his civilian years. My own father in-law was not given an opportunity at CNN when he came back from Vietnam. He was a Sargent in charge of all video filming and feeds from Vietnam. If you watched footage of Vietnam on NBC, CBS, ABC it came from him and his 12 man group. They told him that his service made some of the staff at CNN uncomfortable. How ironic. My father in-law put himself in danger for the better part of a 20 year career in the Army with 1000's of flights into battle to film and send back to stations like CNN. Then when he gets back, the same CNN that uses that kind of footage to generate revenue was "uncomfortable" with him being around. That was 1980-81. He should have sued their asses off but he isn't that kind of guy. When he went to local affiliates in 80-81, he was passed over for unqualified minorities because that bullshit was happening at that time. It was rough on Vets.
Turns out it's embarrassing to threaten and accost queers, and then get beaten into the ground by them.
I would guess at its peak, the PNW Neo-Nazi movement probably had 1500-2000 loosely affiliated members and about 100 - 200 hard-core members who eventually got sued back into the Stone Age by Morris Dees and the SPLC - Back when that org actually stood for something other than hate.
Neo-Nazis today? Mostly a figment of the Far-Left's imagination, cause they just call anyone who opposes them in any way, a Nazi. That's how ignorant the Far-Left has become.
But then he recounted a story of when he was over in Afghanistan, and the contractor over there cleaning toilets was whistling while doing so, and he started a discussion with him. Guy said he was the happiest guy in the world, because he was getting paid by the government 100 grand a year to clean toilets.
So, there's that. CSB.
They signed up, voluntarily, for a job for which they were paid, that presumable had benefits to them that out weighed the risks and costs.
Guys drafted deserve far more praise than those who sign up to get job skills or college money.
I don't know how old you are or what your background is, but you need to appreciate the sacrifices our soldiers make. Virtually no on who has lost their life to ISIS or the Taliban was drafted.
Very disappointing that you think the way you do.
I didn’t say anyone died fighting ISIS who was drafted. I said those who were drafted are in a different league when it comes to “thanking them for their service”
In fact, most of my veteran and active friends find the thank you for your service thing to be cliche, over blown and unnecessary. Over compensation for how the Vietnam guys were treated.