If you have not paid attention to Iraq beyond the fight against ISIS, having Iraqis lay siege to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad may seem surprising.
They are protesting the recent series of airstrikes the U.S. conducted against the Iranian proxy in Iraq, Katib Al-Hizballah. That group had conducted multiple rocket attacks on U.S. installations in Iraq in the last two months, with the most recent killing a U.S. contractor. Our retaliatory strikes were labeled a violation of Iraqi sovereignty by the Iraqi government and key members of the Iraqi government have vowed to strike the U.S. again.
These events come as a surprise because the U.S. national security establishment has told us that despite the controversial beginnings of the Iraq conflict, we were successful at building a real government that can be a strategic partner in the region. To quickly make a government we allowed Shia exiles and Iranian proxies into the Iraqi government and turned a blind eye to Iran’s control of the Iraqi state.
he Bush administration began this lie for obvious reasons. The premise of the invasion was debunked early on and we lost almost 5,000 Americans and spent about a trillion dollars to get Iraq somewhat stable and needed something to show for it. But the stability we sold as a victory from 2008-2013 was just a tactical pause in the Sunni vs. Shia civil war that solidified Iran’s control.
The Obama administration was eager to continue this lie because it allowed us to withdraw from Iraq with the fig leaf of success. Iran’s proxies wanted to make sure that we left on schedule and killed nearly 30 U.S. service members between May and August 2011 to ensure we left by the end of that year. The Obama administration had no desire to confront Iranian aggression; they valued cutting the so-called Iran deal above all other security priorities in the region.
My security industry buddies have been warning that Iraq has been becoming an Iranian proxy for years. All the boots on the ground knew this.
Shocking that removing a Sunni dictator there and promoting "democracy" might cause the Shiites to align with Iran. At least when @RaceBannon was watching Vietnam on the nightly news, there was probably still some Cold War strategic value to losing but still looking TUFF. Iraq was just FS.
If you have not paid attention to Iraq beyond the fight against ISIS, having Iraqis lay siege to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad may seem surprising.
They are protesting the recent series of airstrikes the U.S. conducted against the Iranian proxy in Iraq, Katib Al-Hizballah. That group had conducted multiple rocket attacks on U.S. installations in Iraq in the last two months, with the most recent killing a U.S. contractor. Our retaliatory strikes were labeled a violation of Iraqi sovereignty by the Iraqi government and key members of the Iraqi government have vowed to strike the U.S. again.
These events come as a surprise because the U.S. national security establishment has told us that despite the controversial beginnings of the Iraq conflict, we were successful at building a real government that can be a strategic partner in the region. To quickly make a government we allowed Shia exiles and Iranian proxies into the Iraqi government and turned a blind eye to Iran’s control of the Iraqi state.
he Bush administration began this lie for obvious reasons. The premise of the invasion was debunked early on and we lost almost 5,000 Americans and spent about a trillion dollars to get Iraq somewhat stable and needed something to show for it. But the stability we sold as a victory from 2008-2013 was just a tactical pause in the Sunni vs. Shia civil war that solidified Iran’s control.
The Obama administration was eager to continue this lie because it allowed us to withdraw from Iraq with the fig leaf of success. Iran’s proxies wanted to make sure that we left on schedule and killed nearly 30 U.S. service members between May and August 2011 to ensure we left by the end of that year. The Obama administration had no desire to confront Iranian aggression; they valued cutting the so-called Iran deal above all other security priorities in the region.
My security industry buddies have been warning that Iraq has been becoming an Iranian proxy for years. All the boots on the ground knew this.
Shocking that removing a Sunni dictator there and promoting "democracy" might cause the Shiites to align with Iran. At least when @RaceBannon was watching Vietnam on the nightly news, there was probably still some Cold War strategic value to losing but still looking TUFF. Iraq was just FS.
I was against the war in Iraq but once we? were there that's kind of it isn't it? You've gotta rebuild the damn place a la Japan or Germany and it might take a long fucking time.
If you have not paid attention to Iraq beyond the fight against ISIS, having Iraqis lay siege to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad may seem surprising.
They are protesting the recent series of airstrikes the U.S. conducted against the Iranian proxy in Iraq, Katib Al-Hizballah. That group had conducted multiple rocket attacks on U.S. installations in Iraq in the last two months, with the most recent killing a U.S. contractor. Our retaliatory strikes were labeled a violation of Iraqi sovereignty by the Iraqi government and key members of the Iraqi government have vowed to strike the U.S. again.
These events come as a surprise because the U.S. national security establishment has told us that despite the controversial beginnings of the Iraq conflict, we were successful at building a real government that can be a strategic partner in the region. To quickly make a government we allowed Shia exiles and Iranian proxies into the Iraqi government and turned a blind eye to Iran’s control of the Iraqi state.
he Bush administration began this lie for obvious reasons. The premise of the invasion was debunked early on and we lost almost 5,000 Americans and spent about a trillion dollars to get Iraq somewhat stable and needed something to show for it. But the stability we sold as a victory from 2008-2013 was just a tactical pause in the Sunni vs. Shia civil war that solidified Iran’s control.
The Obama administration was eager to continue this lie because it allowed us to withdraw from Iraq with the fig leaf of success. Iran’s proxies wanted to make sure that we left on schedule and killed nearly 30 U.S. service members between May and August 2011 to ensure we left by the end of that year. The Obama administration had no desire to confront Iranian aggression; they valued cutting the so-called Iran deal above all other security priorities in the region.
My security industry buddies have been warning that Iraq has been becoming an Iranian proxy for years. All the boots on the ground knew this.
Shocking that removing a Sunni dictator there and promoting "democracy" might cause the Shiites to align with Iran. At least when @RaceBannon was watching Vietnam on the nightly news, there was probably still some Cold War strategic value to losing but still looking TUFF. Iraq was just FS.
I was against the war in Iraq but once we? were there that's kind of it isn't it? You've gotta rebuild the damn place a la Japan or Germany and it might take a long fucking time.
German and Japan didnt have a backward ass religion created by a warlord pedophile getting in the way of things
That region of the world is stuck in 1200 AD mentality. Never really had a Renaissance. Damn shame too, the Babylonians and Persians really had a good run before the Mongols burned everything and Mohammad's religion took over every aspect of life.
Some Muslims are good people, dont twist. The ones that got the fuck out of Iran in the 70s and 80s are pretty smart.
German and Japan didnt have a backward ass religion created by a warlord pedophile getting in the way of things
That region of the world is stuck in 1200 AD mentality. Never really had a Renaissance. Damn shame too, the Babylonians and Persians really had a good run before the Mongols burned everything and Mohammad's religion took over every aspect of life.
Some Muslims are good people, dont twist. The ones that got the fuck out of Iran in the 70s and 80s are pretty smart.
If you have not paid attention to Iraq beyond the fight against ISIS, having Iraqis lay siege to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad may seem surprising.
They are protesting the recent series of airstrikes the U.S. conducted against the Iranian proxy in Iraq, Katib Al-Hizballah. That group had conducted multiple rocket attacks on U.S. installations in Iraq in the last two months, with the most recent killing a U.S. contractor. Our retaliatory strikes were labeled a violation of Iraqi sovereignty by the Iraqi government and key members of the Iraqi government have vowed to strike the U.S. again.
These events come as a surprise because the U.S. national security establishment has told us that despite the controversial beginnings of the Iraq conflict, we were successful at building a real government that can be a strategic partner in the region. To quickly make a government we allowed Shia exiles and Iranian proxies into the Iraqi government and turned a blind eye to Iran’s control of the Iraqi state.
he Bush administration began this lie for obvious reasons. The premise of the invasion was debunked early on and we lost almost 5,000 Americans and spent about a trillion dollars to get Iraq somewhat stable and needed something to show for it. But the stability we sold as a victory from 2008-2013 was just a tactical pause in the Sunni vs. Shia civil war that solidified Iran’s control.
The Obama administration was eager to continue this lie because it allowed us to withdraw from Iraq with the fig leaf of success. Iran’s proxies wanted to make sure that we left on schedule and killed nearly 30 U.S. service members between May and August 2011 to ensure we left by the end of that year. The Obama administration had no desire to confront Iranian aggression; they valued cutting the so-called Iran deal above all other security priorities in the region.
My security industry buddies have been warning that Iraq has been becoming an Iranian proxy for years. All the boots on the ground knew this.
Shocking that removing a Sunni dictator there and promoting "democracy" might cause the Shiites to align with Iran. At least when @RaceBannon was watching Vietnam on the nightly news, there was probably still some Cold War strategic value to losing but still looking TUFF. Iraq was just FS.
I was against the war in Iraq but once we? were there that's kind of it isn't it? You've gotta rebuild the damn place a la Japan or Germany and it might take a long fucking time.
I was for it. But I also thought we'd find all the WMD and have a decent plan for post invasion governance. Who knows how it would have played out had we put another less bad Sunni strongman in there- i.e., Saddam lite.
Japan and Germany aren't good analogies. Those were homogeneous nations who were so thoroughly whipped they had no choice but to cooperate with the occupiers and rebuild. Plus those countries didn't suck in the first place before the WWII.
Perhaps if Iraq was a country of 1 tribe instead of 3 and we had firebombed its cities first, post war nation building might be possible.
If you have not paid attention to Iraq beyond the fight against ISIS, having Iraqis lay siege to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad may seem surprising.
They are protesting the recent series of airstrikes the U.S. conducted against the Iranian proxy in Iraq, Katib Al-Hizballah. That group had conducted multiple rocket attacks on U.S. installations in Iraq in the last two months, with the most recent killing a U.S. contractor. Our retaliatory strikes were labeled a violation of Iraqi sovereignty by the Iraqi government and key members of the Iraqi government have vowed to strike the U.S. again.
These events come as a surprise because the U.S. national security establishment has told us that despite the controversial beginnings of the Iraq conflict, we were successful at building a real government that can be a strategic partner in the region. To quickly make a government we allowed Shia exiles and Iranian proxies into the Iraqi government and turned a blind eye to Iran’s control of the Iraqi state.
he Bush administration began this lie for obvious reasons. The premise of the invasion was debunked early on and we lost almost 5,000 Americans and spent about a trillion dollars to get Iraq somewhat stable and needed something to show for it. But the stability we sold as a victory from 2008-2013 was just a tactical pause in the Sunni vs. Shia civil war that solidified Iran’s control.
The Obama administration was eager to continue this lie because it allowed us to withdraw from Iraq with the fig leaf of success. Iran’s proxies wanted to make sure that we left on schedule and killed nearly 30 U.S. service members between May and August 2011 to ensure we left by the end of that year. The Obama administration had no desire to confront Iranian aggression; they valued cutting the so-called Iran deal above all other security priorities in the region.
My security industry buddies have been warning that Iraq has been becoming an Iranian proxy for years. All the boots on the ground knew this.
Shocking that removing a Sunni dictator there and promoting "democracy" might cause the Shiites to align with Iran. At least when @RaceBannon was watching Vietnam on the nightly news, there was probably still some Cold War strategic value to losing but still looking TUFF. Iraq was just FS.
I was against the war in Iraq but once we? were there that's kind of it isn't it? You've gotta rebuild the damn place a la Japan or Germany and it might take a long fucking time.
I was for it. But I also thought we'd find all the WMD and have a decent plan for post invasion governance. Who knows how it would have played out had we put another less bad Sunni strongman in there- i.e., Saddam lite.
Japan and Germany aren't good analogies. Those were homogeneous nations who were so thoroughly whipped they had no choice but to cooperate with the occupiers and rebuild. Plus those countries didn't suck in the first place before the WWII.
Perhaps if Iraq was a country of 1 tribe instead of 3 and we had firebombed its cities first, post war nation building might be possible.
You're reading too much into my analogy. I simply meant you couldn't topple the strong man and then peace out. Which has been proven in Iraq and Libya more or less.
I'm fully on board with breaking Iraq up and we should have at least given the Kurds their country right after we killed Saddam and told the rest of the Iraqi's too fucking bad losers. This is what you get.
If you have not paid attention to Iraq beyond the fight against ISIS, having Iraqis lay siege to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad may seem surprising.
They are protesting the recent series of airstrikes the U.S. conducted against the Iranian proxy in Iraq, Katib Al-Hizballah. That group had conducted multiple rocket attacks on U.S. installations in Iraq in the last two months, with the most recent killing a U.S. contractor. Our retaliatory strikes were labeled a violation of Iraqi sovereignty by the Iraqi government and key members of the Iraqi government have vowed to strike the U.S. again.
These events come as a surprise because the U.S. national security establishment has told us that despite the controversial beginnings of the Iraq conflict, we were successful at building a real government that can be a strategic partner in the region. To quickly make a government we allowed Shia exiles and Iranian proxies into the Iraqi government and turned a blind eye to Iran’s control of the Iraqi state.
he Bush administration began this lie for obvious reasons. The premise of the invasion was debunked early on and we lost almost 5,000 Americans and spent about a trillion dollars to get Iraq somewhat stable and needed something to show for it. But the stability we sold as a victory from 2008-2013 was just a tactical pause in the Sunni vs. Shia civil war that solidified Iran’s control.
The Obama administration was eager to continue this lie because it allowed us to withdraw from Iraq with the fig leaf of success. Iran’s proxies wanted to make sure that we left on schedule and killed nearly 30 U.S. service members between May and August 2011 to ensure we left by the end of that year. The Obama administration had no desire to confront Iranian aggression; they valued cutting the so-called Iran deal above all other security priorities in the region.
My security industry buddies have been warning that Iraq has been becoming an Iranian proxy for years. All the boots on the ground knew this.
Shocking that removing a Sunni dictator there and promoting "democracy" might cause the Shiites to align with Iran. At least when @RaceBannon was watching Vietnam on the nightly news, there was probably still some Cold War strategic value to losing but still looking TUFF. Iraq was just FS.
I was against the war in Iraq but once we? were there that's kind of it isn't it? You've gotta rebuild the damn place a la Japan or Germany and it might take a long fucking time.
I was for it. But I also thought we'd find all the WMD and have a decent plan for post invasion governance. Who knows how it would have played out had we put another less bad Sunni strongman in there- i.e., Saddam lite.
Japan and Germany aren't good analogies. Those were homogeneous nations who were so thoroughly whipped they had no choice but to cooperate with the occupiers and rebuild. Plus those countries didn't suck in the first place before the WWII.
Perhaps if Iraq was a country of 1 tribe instead of 3 and we had firebombed its cities first, post war nation building might be possible.
This is pretty much me. I thought we were going to be able to win this time
What a bipartisan clusterfuck
It's clear that leveling a country to liberate it isn't cool these days
Oh well. Let's figure out how to get out and let the Air Force handle any issues left behind
German and Japan didnt have a backward ass religion created by a warlord pedophile getting in the way of things
That region of the world is stuck in 1200 AD mentality. Never really had a Renaissance. Damn shame too, the Babylonians and Persians really had a good run before the Mongols burned everything and Mohammad's religion took over every aspect of life.
Some Muslims are good people, dont twist. The ones that got the fuck out of Iran in the 70s and 80s are pretty smart.
Bad, bad take, PGOS.
Emperor worship in Japan has nothing on Islam
Japan saw what happened to China and other Asian countries in the 100 years prior and wanted no part of being Englands bitch like China was in the Opium Wars
Saw some quote somewhere about by the time Japan had seriously entered the game, the west had flipped the script and called the game immoral
I'm Happy we had a response. Gunship flyover and then troops delivered next day.
Better than rolling over in bed and letting the people that could incriminate you in the guns to Syria scandal die so they can't testify. Then blaming some poor shlubs video and having him imprisoned as cover for your ass.
If you have not paid attention to Iraq beyond the fight against ISIS, having Iraqis lay siege to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad may seem surprising.
They are protesting the recent series of airstrikes the U.S. conducted against the Iranian proxy in Iraq, Katib Al-Hizballah. That group had conducted multiple rocket attacks on U.S. installations in Iraq in the last two months, with the most recent killing a U.S. contractor. Our retaliatory strikes were labeled a violation of Iraqi sovereignty by the Iraqi government and key members of the Iraqi government have vowed to strike the U.S. again.
These events come as a surprise because the U.S. national security establishment has told us that despite the controversial beginnings of the Iraq conflict, we were successful at building a real government that can be a strategic partner in the region. To quickly make a government we allowed Shia exiles and Iranian proxies into the Iraqi government and turned a blind eye to Iran’s control of the Iraqi state.
he Bush administration began this lie for obvious reasons. The premise of the invasion was debunked early on and we lost almost 5,000 Americans and spent about a trillion dollars to get Iraq somewhat stable and needed something to show for it. But the stability we sold as a victory from 2008-2013 was just a tactical pause in the Sunni vs. Shia civil war that solidified Iran’s control.
The Obama administration was eager to continue this lie because it allowed us to withdraw from Iraq with the fig leaf of success. Iran’s proxies wanted to make sure that we left on schedule and killed nearly 30 U.S. service members between May and August 2011 to ensure we left by the end of that year. The Obama administration had no desire to confront Iranian aggression; they valued cutting the so-called Iran deal above all other security priorities in the region.
My security industry buddies have been warning that Iraq has been becoming an Iranian proxy for years. All the boots on the ground knew this.
Shocking that removing a Sunni dictator there and promoting "democracy" might cause the Shiites to align with Iran. At least when @RaceBannon was watching Vietnam on the nightly news, there was probably still some Cold War strategic value to losing but still looking TUFF. Iraq was just FS.
I was against the war in Iraq but once we? were there that's kind of it isn't it? You've gotta rebuild the damn place a la Japan or Germany and it might take a long fucking time.
I’m already against the next war.
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism as long as a white guy is in change.
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That region of the world is stuck in 1200 AD mentality. Never really had a Renaissance. Damn shame too, the Babylonians and Persians really had a good run before the Mongols burned everything and Mohammad's religion took over every aspect of life.
Some Muslims are good people, dont twist. The ones that got the fuck out of Iran in the 70s and 80s are pretty smart.
Japan and Germany aren't good analogies. Those were homogeneous nations who were so thoroughly whipped they had no choice but to cooperate with the occupiers and rebuild. Plus those countries didn't suck in the first place before the WWII.
Perhaps if Iraq was a country of 1 tribe instead of 3 and we had firebombed its cities first, post war nation building might be possible.
I'm fully on board with breaking Iraq up and we should have at least given the Kurds their country right after we killed Saddam and told the rest of the Iraqi's too fucking bad losers. This is what you get.
What a bipartisan clusterfuck
It's clear that leveling a country to liberate it isn't cool these days
Oh well. Let's figure out how to get out and let the Air Force handle any issues left behind
Japan saw what happened to China and other Asian countries in the 100 years prior and wanted no part of being Englands bitch like China was in the Opium Wars
Saw some quote somewhere about by the time Japan had seriously entered the game, the west had flipped the script and called the game immoral
Better than rolling over in bed and letting the people that could incriminate you in the guns to Syria scandal die so they can't testify. Then blaming some poor shlubs video and having him imprisoned as cover for your ass.
I like Trump in this one.
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism as long as a white guy is in change.