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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,998 Founders Club

    What makes a great recruiter anyway. Seems like most of the great recruiters carry a bad reputation from the lazy types like Pete. Rick comes to mind. Urban. Saban.

    Again, we aren't bashing Mario for what he is doing, at least I'm not. We're hoping we do more of the aggressive shit that makes Jimmy hated

    The big complaint on Pete is that he whined about poaching and then poached a three star from Oregon State which many ducks reading this partook in

    The humanity

    Nobody is bashing Mario. As Ive been saying on twitter, he knows how not to crash the Ferrari. That doesnt make him a great coach though, which a lot of quooks can’t wrap their heads around. Neuheisel got 10 wins and a Rose Bowl with some good players and nobody out here is calling him a great coach. I would say Mario recruits better on the lines, but UW took Oregons lunch money on D line last year and O Line this year so Im gonna LIPO.
    The one good point creepy makes and it may be the only one he has ever made is that most of us? were convinced of the decisive schematic advantage that Pete would have over Meat on gamed ay

    That turned out to be not the case. You're right that making the Rose Bowl in year 2 is not a guarantee of success. As we know

    Mario drops the next two to UW and UW wins the league the whole conversation changes again

    We REALLY need Jimmy to be the guy and we are a few years away from knowing

    Recruiting is a good start
    Hurtful.
    I was afraid that was going to be wasted
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,257

    What makes a great recruiter anyway. Seems like most of the great recruiters carry a bad reputation from the lazy types like Pete. Rick comes to mind. Urban. Saban.

    Again, we aren't bashing Mario for what he is doing, at least I'm not. We're hoping we do more of the aggressive shit that makes Jimmy hated

    The big complaint on Pete is that he whined about poaching and then poached a three star from Oregon State which many ducks reading this partook in

    The humanity

    Nobody is bashing Mario. As Ive been saying on twitter, he knows how not to crash the Ferrari. That doesnt make him a great coach though, which a lot of quooks can’t wrap their heads around. Neuheisel got 10 wins and a Rose Bowl with some good players and nobody out here is calling him a great coach. I would say Mario recruits better on the lines, but UW took Oregons lunch money on D line last year and O Line this year so Im gonna LIPO.
    I’m not sure if he’s a great coach, but he does do some things very well. His OL background makes him prioritize the line and be able to get the prospects he wants. Oregon has definitely gotten tougher and more physical since he took over, which is huge and creates a consistent recipe for winning.
    That's basically my take on the coaching side. He seems to be very intentional in driving the program in the direction of his vision. That's a start. Can he out-Belichick the real smarties in the game? Don't really know. Can he make a good hire? He's made one with Avalos. He has to do it again now.

    I do agree that breaking in an almost entire new line will be a big deal. Throckmorton gets most of the pub after Penis but I've said the guy they'll miss terribly is the center. He's a really good one and those guys don't grow on trees any more than elite left tackles do. I also think they'll miss Troy Dye. The kid is a player. Super rangy and all he does is make plays. He's also a clear alpha leader on that team. You need guysms like that, especially in close games on the road. Guys that show up. Guys that make plays, like high pointing a ball with a a club on one of your mits while you're falling backwards. He'll be missed and hard to replace.
  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,803

    What makes a great recruiter anyway. Seems like most of the great recruiters carry a bad reputation from the lazy types like Pete. Rick comes to mind. Urban. Saban.

    Again, we aren't bashing Mario for what he is doing, at least I'm not. We're hoping we do more of the aggressive shit that makes Jimmy hated

    The big complaint on Pete is that he whined about poaching and then poached a three star from Oregon State which many ducks reading this partook in

    The humanity

    Nobody is bashing Mario. As Ive been saying on twitter, he knows how not to crash the Ferrari. That doesnt make him a great coach though, which a lot of quooks can’t wrap their heads around. Neuheisel got 10 wins and a Rose Bowl with some good players and nobody out here is calling him a great coach. I would say Mario recruits better on the lines, but UW took Oregons lunch money on D line last year and O Line this year so Im gonna LIPO.
    I’m not sure if he’s a great coach, but he does do some things very well. His OL background makes him prioritize the line and be able to get the prospects he wants. Oregon has definitely gotten tougher and more physical since he took over, which is huge and creates a consistent recipe for winning.
    *pete voice*

    No question.... no question...
  • TommySQCTommySQC Member Posts: 5,813

    If Eason comes back we'll be neck and neck with them for the offseason natty.

    I think we will be better than them next year. Replacing 4 OL and your QB isn’t easy. They are upgrading their talent, but that isn’t immediate as we have seen first hand.

    On the other hand, I thought we would win the last two years and we shit ourselves and lost.
    Doesn't UW replace 3 OL starters and likely their QB?
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    TommySQC said:

    If Eason comes back we'll be neck and neck with them for the offseason natty.

    I think we will be better than them next year. Replacing 4 OL and your QB isn’t easy. They are upgrading their talent, but that isn’t immediate as we have seen first hand.

    On the other hand, I thought we would win the last two years and we shit ourselves and lost.
    Doesn't UW replace 3 OL starters and likely their QB?
    Yes. Our guys suck tho along with the rest of our offense so it’s probably not much of a loss.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    What makes a great recruiter anyway. Seems like most of the great recruiters carry a bad reputation from the lazy types like Pete. Rick comes to mind. Urban. Saban.

    Again, we aren't bashing Mario for what he is doing, at least I'm not. We're hoping we do more of the aggressive shit that makes Jimmy hated

    The big complaint on Pete is that he whined about poaching and then poached a three star from Oregon State which many ducks reading this partook in

    The humanity

    Nobody is bashing Mario. As Ive been saying on twitter, he knows how not to crash the Ferrari. That doesnt make him a great coach though, which a lot of quooks can’t wrap their heads around. Neuheisel got 10 wins and a Rose Bowl with some good players and nobody out here is calling him a great coach. I would say Mario recruits better on the lines, but UW took Oregons lunch money on D line last year and O Line this year so Im gonna LIPO.
    I’m not sure if he’s a great coach, but he does do some things very well. His OL background makes him prioritize the line and be able to get the prospects he wants. Oregon has definitely gotten tougher and more physical since he took over, which is huge and creates a consistent recipe for winning.
    That's basically my take on the coaching side. He seems to be very intentional in driving the program in the direction of his vision. That's a start. Can he out-Belichick the real smarties in the game? Don't really know. Can he make a good hire? He's made one with Avalos. He has to do it again now.

    I do agree that breaking in an almost entire new line will be a big deal. Throckmorton gets most of the pub after Penis but I've said the guy they'll miss terribly is the center. He's a really good one and those guys don't grow on trees any more than elite left tackles do. I also think they'll miss Troy Dye. The kid is a player. Super rangy and all he does is make plays. He's also a clear alpha leader on that team. You need guysms like that, especially in close games on the road. Guys that show up. Guys that make plays, like high pointing a ball with a a club on one of your mits while you're falling backwards. He'll be missed and hard to replace.
    Replacing Center has proven to be an insurmountable task for us as well.
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