Just heard Slade Gorton say Trump did a “shake down”. Said he was still thinking about whether that should lead to removal.
Imagine actually having that kind of honest discussion. Unfortunately, we do have to imagine.
That's kinda my take on it. Trump tried to do a "hey buddy" on that Ukranian. Because Trump's undisciplined, and more importantly because it appears he's widely disliked within the staffer ranks, he got caught. I also think versions of this exchange go on all the time.
Just heard Slade Gorton say Trump did a “shake down”. Said he was still thinking about whether that should lead to removal.
Imagine actually having that kind of honest discussion. Unfortunately, we do have to imagine.
That's kinda my take on it. Trump tried to do a "hey buddy" on that Ukranian. Because Trump's undisciplined, and more importantly because it appears he's widely disliked within the staffer ranks, he got caught. I also think versions of this exchange go on all the time.
If this "shake down" is so obvious you wouldn't have to imagine it at all
The shakedown is very obvious. The facts are clear; the proffered innocent explanations for holding up Ukraine’s aid are preposterous.
If that was the case you and Slade would not be bemoaning no one believing your imagination
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
Just heard Slade Gorton say Trump did a “shake down”. Said he was still thinking about whether that should lead to removal.
Imagine actually having that kind of honest discussion. Unfortunately, we do have to imagine.
That's kinda my take on it. Trump tried to do a "hey buddy" on that Ukranian. Because Trump's undisciplined, and more importantly because it appears he's widely disliked within the staffer ranks, he got caught. I also think versions of this exchange go on all the time.
If this "shake down" is so obvious you wouldn't have to imagine it at all
The shakedown is very obvious. The facts are clear; the proffered innocent explanations for holding up Ukraine’s aid are preposterous.
If that was the case you and Slade would not be bemoaning no one believing your imagination
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
What’s the innocent explanation for withholding the aid in the first place?
If this "shake down" is so obvious you wouldn't have to imagine it at all
The shakedown is very obvious. The facts are clear; the proffered innocent explanations for holding up Ukraine’s aid are preposterous.
If that was the case you and Slade would not be bemoaning no one believing your imagination
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
What’s the innocent explanation for withholding the aid in the first place?
Innocence in international politics. Big, if true.
If this "shake down" is so obvious you wouldn't have to imagine it at all
The shakedown is very obvious. The facts are clear; the proffered innocent explanations for holding up Ukraine’s aid are preposterous.
If that was the case you and Slade would not be bemoaning no one believing your imagination
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
What’s the innocent explanation for withholding the aid in the first place?
Trump ran on getting the Euros to pay their fair share and to not send money down rat holes to corrupt governments
He reviewed the aid and it got sent. Unlike under Obama. Were you in favor of impeaching Obama?
If this "shake down" is so obvious you wouldn't have to imagine it at all
The shakedown is very obvious. The facts are clear; the proffered innocent explanations for holding up Ukraine’s aid are preposterous.
If that was the case you and Slade would not be bemoaning no one believing your imagination
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
What’s the innocent explanation for withholding the aid in the first place?
Aid was delivered weeks before the confessional resolution required it.
If this "shake down" is so obvious you wouldn't have to imagine it at all
The shakedown is very obvious. The facts are clear; the proffered innocent explanations for holding up Ukraine’s aid are preposterous.
If that was the case you and Slade would not be bemoaning no one believing your imagination
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
What’s the innocent explanation for withholding the aid in the first place?
Trump ran on getting the Euros to pay their fair share and to not send money down rat holes to corrupt governments
He reviewed the aid and it got sent. Unlike under Obama. Were you in favor of impeaching Obama?
And the corruption was real. See, Biden, Hunter
Trump didn’t withhold aid from the previous government. Joe’s brag about getting the corrupt prosecutor fired had been out there for years—not locked up in a top secret server. What had changed? Hint: Joe had entered the race and polls said he’d beat Trump in the general.
Like I said, the “innocent explanations” are preposterous.
If this "shake down" is so obvious you wouldn't have to imagine it at all
The shakedown is very obvious. The facts are clear; the proffered innocent explanations for holding up Ukraine’s aid are preposterous.
If that was the case you and Slade would not be bemoaning no one believing your imagination
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
What’s the innocent explanation for withholding the aid in the first place?
Innocence in international politics. Big, if true.
Didn’t you just go on record saying that it probably was a shakedown?
The working leftard position was that Trump should be impeached for Russian collusion paid for by PIPS and with false information supplied by Russian intelligence and with information to be gathered with FISA warrants secured by supplying the court with false statements. The leftards next position is that there was nothing wrong with the corrupt Ukrainian gas company paying off the Biden family with millions of dollars paid to a cokehead who knew nothing about the energy industry. In fact, Biden bragged about the threat to hold up aid if the prosecutor looking into Burisma and Hunter corruption if the Ukrainian government didn’t fire the prosecutor – which they did. Pro- Russian Ukrainians were also involved with releasing documents involving Trump campaign officials.
So, it’s okay for leftards to investigate supposed corruption of Trump in 2016 but it’s not okay to investigate real dem corruption in 2016. Biden counseled against providing military aid. Trump provided military aid. And yet, Trump is still alleged by leftards to be Putin’s bitch.
The working leftard position was that Trump should be impeached for Russian collusion paid for by PIPS and with false information supplied by Russian intelligence and with information to be gathered with FISA warrants secured by supplying the court with false statements. The leftards next position is that there was nothing wrong with the corrupt Ukrainian gas company paying off the Biden family with millions of dollars paid to a cokehead who knew nothing about the energy industry. In fact, Biden bragged about the threat to hold up aid if the prosecutor looking into Burisma and Hunter corruption if the Ukrainian government didn’t fire the prosecutor – which they did. Pro- Russian Ukrainians were also involved with releasing documents involving Trump campaign officials.
So, it’s okay for leftards to investigate supposed corruption of Trump in 2016 but it’s not okay to investigate real dem corruption in 2016. Biden counseled against providing military aid. Trump provided military aid. And yet, Trump is still alleged by leftards to be Putin’s bitch.
Congress provided military aid. Daddy withheld it—and without a word to Congress. That in itself was illegal. But people from both parties came to wonder why the aid wasn’t being sent and Daddy, rather than defending his actions, caved when caught. All obvious hallmarks of total innocence, of course.
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most hated republican ever and he is killing the dems daily
Imagine actually having that kind of honest discussion. Unfortunately, we do have to imagine.
The attempt to criminalize actions of the POTUS you don't like fell apart at the start with the transcript
Now you find yourself having to call the people you claim you are defending liars because they don't have your imagination either
The aid got there unlike under Obama. The Ukraine says no leverage was applied. The key witness Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want anything.,
If you think this is grounds for impeachment go down with the rest of the ship of fools. But spare us the phony moralizing about the future of the Republic
He reviewed the aid and it got sent. Unlike under Obama. Were you in favor of impeaching Obama?
And the corruption was real. See, Biden, Hunter
But how are you a dumbfuck?
Like I said, the “innocent explanations” are preposterous.
So, it’s okay for leftards to investigate supposed corruption of Trump in 2016 but it’s not okay to investigate real dem corruption in 2016. Biden counseled against providing military aid. Trump provided military aid. And yet, Trump is still alleged by leftards to be Putin’s bitch.
Trump should be impeached for reporting criminal activity of three Bidens.
It is Trumps duty to report it but don't let that bother you.