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P12 CCG Prediction

SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,010 Founders Club
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,804 Founders Club



    Utah


    Big surprise
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,008 Swaye's Wigwam
    I can see Utah choking this one away.

    Shitty weather and they haven't been challenged in the slightest since Seattle.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499
    haie said:

    I can see Utah choking this one away.

    Shitty weather and they haven't been challenged in the slightest since Seattle.

    I think it comes down to one thing really: can Oregon get their running game going. If they can get Verdell going, and if that piece of glass can last through the 4th Q, then they have a shot because Oregon is deadly off play action pass.

    If Hubert has to sit back there and throw all night Oregon is fuct.

    Defensively, I think Oregon has to just load up and try and limit Moss and make Huntley beat them. I don't think you do it the other way around.

    What I expect, though, is that Utah's D line will be up for the game and stuff Oregon's run. Oregon has a good line but their backs are very unspectacular. Verdell can be impressive in spurts. He runs hard. But he's about as injury prone as any back I can remember.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    You seem to care more about this game than Oregon fans do.
  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,824
    edited December 2019
    Sources said:


    Not great, not terrible
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,008 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    I can see Utah choking this one away.

    Shitty weather and they haven't been challenged in the slightest since Seattle.

    I think it comes down to one thing really: can Oregon get their running game going. If they can get Verdell going, and if that piece of glass can last through the 4th Q, then they have a shot because Oregon is deadly off play action pass.

    If Hubert has to sit back there and throw all night Oregon is fuct.

    Defensively, I think Oregon has to just load up and try and limit Moss and make Huntley beat them. I don't think you do it the other way around.

    What I expect, though, is that Utah's D line will be up for the game and stuff Oregon's run. Oregon has a good line but their backs are very unspectacular. Verdell can be impressive in spurts. He runs hard. But he's about as injury prone as any back I can remember.
    If Meat doesn't let his daily roid injections go to his brain he'll force a healthy dose of Habibi-Likio down the Ute throats all second half like he did against UW.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    haie said:

    haie said:

    I can see Utah choking this one away.

    Shitty weather and they haven't been challenged in the slightest since Seattle.

    I think it comes down to one thing really: can Oregon get their running game going. If they can get Verdell going, and if that piece of glass can last through the 4th Q, then they have a shot because Oregon is deadly off play action pass.

    If Hubert has to sit back there and throw all night Oregon is fuct.

    Defensively, I think Oregon has to just load up and try and limit Moss and make Huntley beat them. I don't think you do it the other way around.

    What I expect, though, is that Utah's D line will be up for the game and stuff Oregon's run. Oregon has a good line but their backs are very unspectacular. Verdell can be impressive in spurts. He runs hard. But he's about as injury prone as any back I can remember.
    If Meat doesn't let his daily roid injections go to his brain he'll force a healthy dose of Habibi-Likio down the Ute throats all second half like he did against UW.
    Not going to happen you dumbass cuck. Arroyo. He's as dumb as you are. If the run is working, he'll go away from it and dial up Herbert to gunsling the inaccurate deep ball for in-completions and interceptions.
  • SECDAWGSECDAWG Member Posts: 5,004
    I didn’t read OBK but enough to see you are way too, how I say this, soft.

    You must be young...no ain’t gone say that, it’s touchy..

    Look, the last thing in yer life is to let any swinging handle here make you indifferent, good or hostile,,,,just tell em get fucked. It’s real simple. PM me.

    I been on many boards in cyber land and am far from stupid.

  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    haie said:

    I can see Utah choking this one away.

    Shitty weather and they haven't been challenged in the slightest since Seattle.

    I think it comes down to one thing really: can Oregon get their running game going. If they can get Verdell going, and if that piece of glass can last through the 4th Q, then they have a shot because Oregon is deadly off play action pass.

    If Hubert has to sit back there and throw all night Oregon is fuct.

    Defensively, I think Oregon has to just load up and try and limit Moss and make Huntley beat them. I don't think you do it the other way around.

    What I expect, though, is that Utah's D line will be up for the game and stuff Oregon's run. Oregon has a good line but their backs are very unspectacular. Verdell can be impressive in spurts. He runs hard. But he's about as injury prone as any back I can remember.

    RANK TEAM G RUSH YDS YPA TDS YPG
    1 Utah 12 299 675 2.26 4 56.3


    I just don’t see it happening. And once the run dissipates, Arroyo will go pass happy.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,060 Founders Club
    Utah 27, Oregon 20
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    Utes 20, Fup Ducks 16
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499
    SECDAWG said:

    I didn’t read OBK but enough to see you are way too, how I say this, soft.

    You must be young...no ain’t gone say that, it’s touchy..

    Look, the last thing in yer life is to let any swinging handle here make you indifferent, good or hostile,,,,just tell em get fucked. It’s real simple. PM me.

    I been on many boards in cyber land and am far from stupid.

    It doesn't seem that way. But I'll take your word for it.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,744
    Oregon defense is not very good. Utah wins, rather easily. Say, 34 - 17?
  • IPukeOregonGrellowIPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    edited December 2019
    It’s firmly on Arroyo’s shoulders. He seems to want to run two tight end sets which he doesn’t have the personnel to do. Since Breeland went down, a high percentage of those two tight end sets have involved a shifted defensive lineman and a walk on senior neither of whom you really have to cover in the pass game. If he brings a knife to a gun fight and tries to run the ball down Utah’s throat while cucking Sherbert with too many plays where there are only two or three receivers to throw to, we? lose 34-17 easily. If he sets up Sherbert with high percentage throws and takes a couple of shots to keep things honest, he has a puncher’s chance.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499

    Oregon defense is not very good. Utah wins, rather easily. Say, 34 - 17?

    Not sure I agree with that. It's been inconsistent, but it's not 'not good', at least by Pac 12 standards, which admittedly isn't saying much, but this is a P12 game we're talking about.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499

    It’s firmly on Arroyo’s shoulders. He seems to want to run two tight end sets which he doesn’t have the personnel to do. Since Breeland went down, a high percentage of those two tight end sets have involved a shifted defensive lineman and a walk on senior neither of whom you really have to cover in the pass game. If he brings a knife to a gun fight and tries to run the ball down Utah’s throat while cucking Sherbert with too many plays where there are only two or three receivers to throw to, we? lose 34-17 easily. If he sets up Sherbert with high percentage throws and takes a couple of shots to keep things honest, he has a puncher’s chance.

    I can't agree that he doesn't try to establish the run. They ran the ball with mixed success on Auburn. I'll believe that a P12 defense is elite when it's tested in a NY6 bowl game against a real team, not stats built up in this shit conference.

    Oregon has a real O line, and while the backs are B- guys, with what they have Oregon should absolutely try and establish the run, which means not giving up on it after two series. If you put the game entirely on Hubert's shoulders it's over before it starts.

    One thing Jimmy Johnson used to preach which I still remember: even elite D lines get tired against a good O line. If you make them work, which means big body on big body in the run game, they wear out. I don't know what Utah's rotation is, but the best unit on the Oregon team is their O line. To go into this game and not try and ride them would be stupid IMO.

    Utah is a good team, don't twist, but let's not get carried away. This isn't Bamers we're talking about.
  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam
    Best Utah team of my lifetime.

    In a way, you Doogs built this team that's about to dismantle Oregon. 4 guys put off the NFL for THIS game today. We? were frustrated after losing to Worshington last year and could only say "what if" ... what if we had Huntley and Moss?

    Now we do, now we'll see.

    Utes have been preparing for this game for 1 year, one day at a time.

    Many of you did not watch our Sugar Bowl, so if you missed it, you'll see something very similar tonight.

    If you hate the Utes and can't stand seeing the Utes have success, fuck off and don't watch.
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