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At one point I was 100% convinced Pete was the guy. I'm more like 60/40 on that now, but he has to be given the opportunity to make the paradigm shit.RoadDawg55 said:
We’re going a little heavy on that. Pete has a good first 5 years. Won 2 of 3 PAC 12 titles. Developed a lot of lower rated players into NFL draft picks. Had the #1 defense in the PAC 12 four years straight. It hasn’t been all bad. Even this year, we had a lot of close losses. Inexcusable losses that shouldn’t have been close, but it’s not like we were incredibly far away.guntlove said:We have the wrong coach. I bought into the 'Browning and Babushka are holding us back' narrative as aggressively as anyone around here... but I was completely fucking wrong.
Pete has no concept of what's wrong. Watching his press conference the other day.... it's like he's emotionally stunted or blind. He can only think in terms of execution. He's so up his own ass with his 'process' that he has no idea how to actually motivate a team to play with passion and violence. He's like a fucking robot.
It doesn't matter what changes he makes to his staff. It doesn't matter to me anymore if he fires Hamden and Gregory. Pete is the problem. We're stuck with a coach who's just good enough to hold onto his job. I will bet anyone a million sven bucks that Pete will never go through a season here without losing at LEAST two games. It will never happen.
I swear to god, being a fan of this fucking program is like some never ending circle of hell.
You are what your record is and we suck.
This year sucks. Let’s LIPO another year or two. Teams makes big jumps all the time. Georgia and LSU both made big jumps. It’s not always linear. I think it’s possible for us if we fix the offense. The way to do that is Pete giving up control. -
dflea said:
The most disappointing thing for me is having to admit Mike Damone was right and I was wrrrrrrr.........I was wrrrrr...........I was fucking wrong!
Im still waiting for @RaceBannon and @PurpleBaze to say I was right after they mocked me for saying a loss to Cal was imminent -
Roadie, you are as always, the voice of reason... and one of my favorite classy poasters. But 2016,17,18 all happened when the PAC-12 was for all intents and purposes, a steaming pile of horse shit. Each bowl game... and I was at two of them, we got fucking handled. We've very rarely (if ever) won a game we weren't supposed to under Pete... and every year there are several losses to teams that we have absolutely no business losing to. There are consistently stretches where individual positions go criminally under-recruited.... we're paying the price this year for the disastrous WR and LB recruiting of the past.RoadDawg55 said:
We’re going a little heavy on that. Pete has a good first 5 years. Won 2 of 3 PAC 12 titles. Developed a lot of lower rated players into NFL draft picks. Had the #1 defense in the PAC 12 four years straight. It hasn’t been all bad. Even this year, we had a lot of close losses. Inexcusable losses that shouldn’t have been close, but it’s not like we were incredibly far away.guntlove said:We have the wrong coach. I bought into the 'Browning and Babushka are holding us back' narrative as aggressively as anyone around here... but I was completely fucking wrong.
Pete has no concept of what's wrong. Watching his press conference the other day.... it's like he's emotionally stunted or blind. He can only think in terms of execution. He's so up his own ass with his 'process' that he has no idea how to actually motivate a team to play with passion and violence. He's like a fucking robot.
It doesn't matter what changes he makes to his staff. It doesn't matter to me anymore if he fires Hamden and Gregory. Pete is the problem. We're stuck with a coach who's just good enough to hold onto his job. I will bet anyone a million sven bucks that Pete will never go through a season here without losing at LEAST two games. It will never happen.
I swear to god, being a fan of this fucking program is like some never ending circle of hell.
You are what your record is and we suck.
This year sucks. Let’s LIPO another year or two. Teams makes big jumps all the time. Georgia and LSU both made big jumps. It’s not always linear. I think it’s possible for us if we fix the offense. The way to do that is Pete giving up control.
There is also something much bigger about this program that just isn't working. Something fundamental about the attitude and energy of this team that just seems WAY off. I think a lot of us had put it on Jake Browning's shoulders... but this season's proven it has much more to do with Pete and his 'practice-first/don't-make-a-mistake' culture.
If Pete retains Hamden, how optimistic would you be for this team to make a big jump next year? If he brings in a new OC with a whole new system, how optimistic would you be that Pete would actually stay out of the fucking way? Even if he did, how optimistic would you be for this team to make a big jump with Morris or Sirmon at QB playing behind a whole new OL being led by a OL coach who may or may not have any idea what he's doing? How optimistic are you at this point that Junior Adams has the slightest fucking idea what he's doing? The defense has steadily declined under Jimmy Lake... we have a lot of returning talent, but how optimistic are you that that trend will reverse itself?
Pete was completely exposed this year. Hapless clock & roster management. Nonexistent in-game/halftime adjustments. Utterly predictable and ineffective offensive play calling. A team with no energy, passion, or ability to make a play when it counted. Pete's a guy that will have 2-5 losses every year going forward. Take yer screenshots.
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I would think it became evident the paradigm shit had been made by the Stanford game at the latest.YellowSnow said:
At one point I was 100% convinced Pete was the guy. I'm more like 60/40 on that now, but he has to be given the opportunity to make the paradigm shit.RoadDawg55 said:
We’re going a little heavy on that. Pete has a good first 5 years. Won 2 of 3 PAC 12 titles. Developed a lot of lower rated players into NFL draft picks. Had the #1 defense in the PAC 12 four years straight. It hasn’t been all bad. Even this year, we had a lot of close losses. Inexcusable losses that shouldn’t have been close, but it’s not like we were incredibly far away.guntlove said:We have the wrong coach. I bought into the 'Browning and Babushka are holding us back' narrative as aggressively as anyone around here... but I was completely fucking wrong.
Pete has no concept of what's wrong. Watching his press conference the other day.... it's like he's emotionally stunted or blind. He can only think in terms of execution. He's so up his own ass with his 'process' that he has no idea how to actually motivate a team to play with passion and violence. He's like a fucking robot.
It doesn't matter what changes he makes to his staff. It doesn't matter to me anymore if he fires Hamden and Gregory. Pete is the problem. We're stuck with a coach who's just good enough to hold onto his job. I will bet anyone a million sven bucks that Pete will never go through a season here without losing at LEAST two games. It will never happen.
I swear to god, being a fan of this fucking program is like some never ending circle of hell.
You are what your record is and we suck.
This year sucks. Let’s LIPO another year or two. Teams makes big jumps all the time. Georgia and LSU both made big jumps. It’s not always linear. I think it’s possible for us if we fix the offense. The way to do that is Pete giving up control. -
@PostGameOrangeSlices,
I'm really really sorry, I apologise unreservedly.
I offer a complete and utter retraction. The imputation was totally without basis in fact, and was in no way fair comment, and was motivated purely by malice, and I deeply regret any distress that my comments may have caused you, or your family, and I hereby undertake not to repeat any such slander at any time in the future.
PGOS right at everything!! -
I think all of Petersen's shortcomings are because he fears making a mistake and that is why he has a shitty offense, promotes great at practice players to starters while ignoring talented but less experienced players, shitty clock and game management.
He coaches scared. It's why we run so many faggy gadget plays because he's scared he can't win a game straight up.
I'm not completely off the Pete bandwagon and will give him 1 more year before I tell him to LEAVE but fuck me, this year is a huge disappointment. I need to take a walk and get some perspective now. -
Ok!PurpleBaze said:@PostGameOrangeSlices,
I'm really really sorry, I apologise unreservedly.
I offer a complete and utter retraction. The imputation was totally without basis in fact, and was in no way fair comment, and was motivated purely by malice, and I deeply regret any distress that my comments may have caused you, or your family, and I hereby undertake not to repeat any such slander at any time in the future.
PGOS right at everything!! -
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ok!PurpleBaze said:@PostGameOrangeSlices,
I'm really really sorry, I apologise unreservedly.
I offer a complete and utter retraction. The imputation was totally without basis in fact, and was in no way fair comment, and was motivated purely by malice, and I deeply regret any distress that my comments may have caused you, or your family, and I hereby undertake not to repeat any such slander at any time in the future.
PGOS right at everything!!
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Sorry but I never apologize
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Goddamnit, last poast then I’ll LEAVE this thread...
Another couple of things... We weren’t ravaged by injuries this year. Overall we were pretty damned healthy, especially up front on both sides of the ball.
We also had experience all over the place on offense... so neither injuries nor youth is a valid excuse, particularly on that side of the ball.
Our schedule set us up for success this year better than just about any season I can remember. Easy non conference slate, and all the tough PAC 12 games at home.
The useless offense, inexplicable losses to vastly inferior teams, and the frequent lack of energy & aggression by our players has been an issue for three straight years... it didn’t just suddenly show up this year - we’d all just decided to blame Jake Browning, Jonathan Smith, or Bush Hammerdon (hi Fatters!) for them. But they weren’t the problem. The problem is Pete and his system & culture.
This shitstorm of a season didn’t happen because of injuries, youth, or a difficult schedule... it happened because of a fucking alarming level of incompetence and mismanagement Pete and his staff.
