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Mike Damone is Totally not a Liar

oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
edited November 2019 in Tug Tavern
Has been claiming he doesn't support open borders.

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Yes idiots want to abolish ice. Where do you see anything about open borders?

Some fringe groups out here might consider borders unenforced to be open. Crazy, I know.
The president also criticized German Prime Minister Angela Merkel and other European leaders for their countries' immigration laws.

"I think it's been bad for Europe. I know Europe very well and it's been tough," he said of immigration. "We've seen some terror attacks. I just think it's changing the culture and is very negative for Europe and Germany -- I have a great relationship with Angela Merkel, but it's hurt Germany and other parts of Europe.

He went on to lash out at immigration laws back home, too.

"We have very bad immigration laws," Trump said about American immigration policy. "We're doing very well considering the fact that we don't have immigration laws."
Anyone want to take a stab at Hondo’s logical fallacy here? I’m going with red herring.

Maybe you would like to talk about the bill that would abolish ICE that “No one” wants to do? I was wondering if you’re stupid or a liar, but I settled on abundance.
What is your point? Fucktarded Democrats have a bill to abolish ice. That like 8 people will vote for. And Republicans want to waste their time making a political point rather than spending the time doing something actually good for the country. And you wonder why Congress approval rating is low.
So you admit that there are Democrats, in Congress, who want to abolish ice.

Always nice when someone admits they were wrong.
When have I said there aren't Democrats that want to abolish ICE?
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize “noone” meant someone.
Link?
We read it
Where? Use the search function.
Hi.

But back to the original topic... “no one wants to abolish ICE”. - Hondo, 7/13/2018




Where does what you posted say that? I clearly said some Democrats want to abolish ICE. You can read that on their websites. (And I've said it's a fucktarded platform) But when you do, you can also read that abolishing ICE doesn't mean open borders. Just like I said in what you quoted.

Are you trolling or just that dumb?
“You can’t find a Democrat in Congress who wants open borders”

Did you say that or not? You did. Shut the fuck up youfucking flip flopping lying piece of shit
Abolish ICE doesn't mean open borders. But nice work on finding a dude in Congress that wore a t-shirt.
So not “no one”. Good to know.

Fun fact, I’m for open borders ..,,


And abolishing the welfare state


https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/49082/no-one-is-calling-for-open-borders-or-to-abolish-ice/p3
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2019

    Has been claiming he doesn't support open borders.


    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:


    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

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    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

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    2001400ex said:

    Yes idiots want to abolish ice. Where do you see anything about open borders?

    Some fringe groups out here might consider borders unenforced to be open. Crazy, I know.
    The president also criticized German Prime Minister Angela Merkel and other European leaders for their countries' immigration laws.

    "I think it's been bad for Europe. I know Europe very well and it's been tough," he said of immigration. "We've seen some terror attacks. I just think it's changing the culture and is very negative for Europe and Germany -- I have a great relationship with Angela Merkel, but it's hurt Germany and other parts of Europe.

    He went on to lash out at immigration laws back home, too.

    "We have very bad immigration laws," Trump said about American immigration policy. "We're doing very well considering the fact that we don't have immigration laws."
    Anyone want to take a stab at Hondo’s logical fallacy here? I’m going with red herring.

    Maybe you would like to talk about the bill that would abolish ICE that “No one” wants to do? I was wondering if you’re stupid or a liar, but I settled on abundance.
    What is your point? Fucktarded Democrats have a bill to abolish ice. That like 8 people will vote for. And Republicans want to waste their time making a political point rather than spending the time doing something actually good for the country. And you wonder why Congress approval rating is low.
    So you admit that there are Democrats, in Congress, who want to abolish ice.

    Always nice when someone admits they were wrong.
    When have I said there aren't Democrats that want to abolish ICE?
    I’m sorry, I didn’t realize “noone” meant someone.
    Link?
    We read it
    Where? Use the search function.
    Hi.

    But back to the original topic... “no one wants to abolish ICE”. - Hondo, 7/13/2018




    Where does what you posted say that? I clearly said some Democrats want to abolish ICE. You can read that on their websites. (And I've said it's a fucktarded platform) But when you do, you can also read that abolishing ICE doesn't mean open borders. Just like I said in what you quoted.

    Are you trolling or just that dumb?
    “You can’t find a Democrat in Congress who wants open borders”

    Did you say that or not? You did. Shut the fuck up youfucking flip flopping lying piece of shit
    Abolish ICE doesn't mean open borders. But nice work on finding a dude in Congress that wore a t-shirt.
    So not “no one”. Good to know.

    Fun fact, I’m for open borders ..,,


    And abolishing the welfare state


    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/49082/no-one-is-calling-for-open-borders-or-to-abolish-ice/p3
    Rent free

    Where did I say I don’t support open boarders?

    I support open boarders....... and abolishing the welfare state. Like I said.

    And you’re too god damn stupid to understand what that means
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    I’ve even linked the video where I said it.

    https://openborders.info/friedman-immigration-welfare-state/
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    I’m not kissing anyone’s ass OBK. Where have you been? I’ve been in many pissing contests on this bored with Damone. I bust his balls regularly.

    All I did here was cite the Milton Friedman which summarizes his position on the topic.

    The problem with Friedman - who I love in theory - is that politics after all is the art of the possible and the welfare state isn’t going away.

    The reason I am in favor of pumping the breaks a bit on low skilled immigration (legal or illegal) is that we are making it way to easy for native born males to drop out of the labor force entirely. The okies could pick oranges in CA. So can these unemployed dole suckers. @creepycoug says they won’t do the shit jobs and he may well be right, but I say it’s worth a try. Cheap lawn care is great but a bunch of under employed guys in Andersen cost the tax payers a lot.


    I don't care about his reasons for supporting open borders. He supports open borders, then later denied that fact. The point is, he's a liar. He's also been lying about things I haven't actually said, claiming I've said them, and providing no proof. Like the 'fact' that I 'said' white people are superior and other races are inferior. Which I never said. Not once.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,150 Founders Club
    Or we need to do the guest worker program to get the cheap labor without the social services cost.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    I’m not kissing anyone’s ass OBK. Where have you been? I’ve been in many pissing contests on this bored with Damone. I bust his balls regularly.

    All I did here was cite the Milton Friedman which summarizes his position on the topic.

    The problem with Friedman - who I love in theory - is that politics after all is the art of the possible and the welfare state isn’t going away.

    The reason I am in favor of pumping the breaks a bit on low skilled immigration (legal or illegal) is that we are making it way to easy for native born males to drop out of the labor force entirely. The okies could pick oranges in CA. So can these unemployed dole suckers. @creepycoug says they won’t do the shit jobs and he may well be right, but I say it’s worth a try. Cheap lawn care is great but a bunch of under employed guys in Andersen cost the tax payers a lot.


    I don't care about his reasons for supporting open borders. He supports open borders, then later denied that fact. The point is, he's a liar. He's also been lying about things I haven't actually said, claiming I've said them, and providing no proof. Like the 'fact' that I 'said' white people are superior and other races are inferior. Which I never said. Not once.
    I've never seen Mike deny that he's for open borders. HTH
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,073
    We've already got enough poor, ugly America haters. Why import more?
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    We've already got enough poor, ugly America haters. Why import more?

    Sounds like you're saying you think Latin American immigrants are ugly. So racist. Or is it simply a matter of personal preference, what ethnicity of girls you like....
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,670

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Oh oh. Someone lifted a finger to undue OBK's feeble fucking ass attempt at reeeeeeeeeedirecting the conversation away from his open and blatant racism.

    I know you're done responding to me, what with the ass kicking you received yesterday and all. But holy shit I've never seen you this effeminate in posture before. It's like a tuff guy in prison after he's been blasted in the ass a few hundred times.

    You're fucking chicken is baked. You should just change your handle and start over.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,670

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    It's almost like context matters.

    Struggling and pressing badly.

    Reeeeeeeeeeeeedirection.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,670

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    I’m not kissing anyone’s ass OBK. Where have you been? I’ve been in many pissing contests on this bored with Damone. I bust his balls regularly.

    All I did here was cite the Milton Friedman which summarizes his position on the topic.

    The problem with Friedman - who I love in theory - is that politics after all is the art of the possible and the welfare state isn’t going away.

    The reason I am in favor of pumping the breaks a bit on low skilled immigration (legal or illegal) is that we are making it way to easy for native born males to drop out of the labor force entirely. The okies could pick oranges in CA. So can these unemployed dole suckers. @creepycoug says they won’t do the shit jobs and he may well be right, but I say it’s worth a try. Cheap lawn care is great but a bunch of under employed guys in Andersen cost the tax payers a lot.


    @creepycoug says they don't WANT to do those jobs, and they don't. @creepycoug says that they'll do other jobs if they can get them, and if they can't, yes, a good % of OBK's family will go on welfare and eat government-issued Mac n' Cheese and get fat before picking lettuce. I know this to be true.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,670

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    I’m not kissing anyone’s ass OBK. Where have you been? I’ve been in many pissing contests on this bored with Damone. I bust his balls regularly.

    All I did here was cite the Milton Friedman which summarizes his position on the topic.

    The problem with Friedman - who I love in theory - is that politics after all is the art of the possible and the welfare state isn’t going away.

    The reason I am in favor of pumping the breaks a bit on low skilled immigration (legal or illegal) is that we are making it way to easy for native born males to drop out of the labor force entirely. The okies could pick oranges in CA. So can these unemployed dole suckers. @creepycoug says they won’t do the shit jobs and he may well be right, but I say it’s worth a try. Cheap lawn care is great but a bunch of under employed guys in Andersen cost the tax payers a lot.


    I don't care about his reasons for supporting open borders. He supports open borders, then later denied that fact. The point is, he's a liar. He's also been lying about things I haven't actually said, claiming I've said them, and providing no proof. Like the 'fact' that I 'said' white people are superior and other races are inferior. Which I never said. Not once.
    You may or may not have actually said that. You've certainly suggested that people who come from certain places will bring certain problems.

    And you've said you'd rather be around white people of European descent than those other people. You've said that 18 different ways and times.

    So if I say I'd rather be around white people than around black people, what are people to conclude about me?

    Maybe you try and deal with people as individuals.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    I’m not kissing anyone’s ass OBK. Where have you been? I’ve been in many pissing contests on this bored with Damone. I bust his balls regularly.

    All I did here was cite the Milton Friedman which summarizes his position on the topic.

    The problem with Friedman - who I love in theory - is that politics after all is the art of the possible and the welfare state isn’t going away.

    The reason I am in favor of pumping the breaks a bit on low skilled immigration (legal or illegal) is that we are making it way to easy for native born males to drop out of the labor force entirely. The okies could pick oranges in CA. So can these unemployed dole suckers. @creepycoug says they won’t do the shit jobs and he may well be right, but I say it’s worth a try. Cheap lawn care is great but a bunch of under employed guys in Andersen cost the tax payers a lot.


    I don't care about his reasons for supporting open borders. He supports open borders, then later denied that fact. The point is, he's a liar. He's also been lying about things I haven't actually said, claiming I've said them, and providing no proof. Like the 'fact' that I 'said' white people are superior and other races are inferior. Which I never said. Not once.
    You’re and idiot. I don’t deny anything. Racist wind bag
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,150 Founders Club

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    I’m not kissing anyone’s ass OBK. Where have you been? I’ve been in many pissing contests on this bored with Damone. I bust his balls regularly.

    All I did here was cite the Milton Friedman which summarizes his position on the topic.

    The problem with Friedman - who I love in theory - is that politics after all is the art of the possible and the welfare state isn’t going away.

    The reason I am in favor of pumping the breaks a bit on low skilled immigration (legal or illegal) is that we are making it way to easy for native born males to drop out of the labor force entirely. The okies could pick oranges in CA. So can these unemployed dole suckers. @creepycoug says they won’t do the shit jobs and he may well be right, but I say it’s worth a try. Cheap lawn care is great but a bunch of under employed guys in Andersen cost the tax payers a lot.


    @creepycoug says they don't WANT to do those jobs, and they don't. @creepycoug says that they'll do other jobs if they can get them, and if they can't, yes, a good % of OBK's family will go on welfare and eat government-issued Mac n' Cheese and get fat before picking lettuce. I know this to be true.
    Like I said, you may well be right. People forget though that even Senor Chavez himself was anti illegal immigration. He wanted the native messican American lettuce pickers to not have to compete against Messican Messican ones.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited November 2019
    You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.

    I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense

    You’re still yelling about this?

    Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?

    I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.

    More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.


    What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.
    The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.
    It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.
    Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopper
    Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.
    Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.
    I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard pass

    Dugdawg said:

    H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.

    False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.
    JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.

    Dugdawg said:

    H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.

    False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.
    JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.
    Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.

    What about Europeans. Can they be hired?

    You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
    You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.

    You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2019

    You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.



    I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense

    You’re still yelling about this?

    Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?

    I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.

    More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.


    What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.
    The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.
    It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.
    Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopper
    Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.
    Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.
    I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard pass

    Dugdawg said:

    H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.

    False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.
    JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.

    Dugdawg said:

    H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.

    False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.
    JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.
    Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.

    What about Europeans. Can they be hired?

    You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
    You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.

    You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
    JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.

    I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.

    I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.

    You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,670

    He said “There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.”

    Nice of you to kiss ass and run cover for your lying buddy, it's cute, but it hurts your 'brand,' he's been denying for the past month that he supports open borders. He lied, his own statement proves it, Damone is a liar. His situational reasons for supporting open borders don't matter. He's on record supporting open borders, and he point blank lied about it multiple times. Liars going to lie.
    I’m not kissing anyone’s ass OBK. Where have you been? I’ve been in many pissing contests on this bored with Damone. I bust his balls regularly.

    All I did here was cite the Milton Friedman which summarizes his position on the topic.

    The problem with Friedman - who I love in theory - is that politics after all is the art of the possible and the welfare state isn’t going away.

    The reason I am in favor of pumping the breaks a bit on low skilled immigration (legal or illegal) is that we are making it way to easy for native born males to drop out of the labor force entirely. The okies could pick oranges in CA. So can these unemployed dole suckers. @creepycoug says they won’t do the shit jobs and he may well be right, but I say it’s worth a try. Cheap lawn care is great but a bunch of under employed guys in Andersen cost the tax payers a lot.


    @creepycoug says they don't WANT to do those jobs, and they don't. @creepycoug says that they'll do other jobs if they can get them, and if they can't, yes, a good % of OBK's family will go on welfare and eat government-issued Mac n' Cheese and get fat before picking lettuce. I know this to be true.
    Like I said, you may well be right. People forget though that even Senor Chavez himself was anti illegal immigration. He wanted the native messican American lettuce pickers to not have to compete against Messican Messican ones.
    Almost every immigrant I know here in the US - and as a Latino fucking up US culture I know a few - feels the same way. The path to citizenship is not easy (and for many, even possible). They? don't want to see people from outside just waltzing in here. Believe me, they don't.

    That's different from having some trailer park-living POS from the Willamette Valley tell me, and them, that he doesn't want us here because we come from inferior cultures. Fuck him and anybody who defends him.

    I'm now officially back to hating Oregon now.

  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.



    I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense

    You’re still yelling about this?

    Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?

    I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.

    More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.


    What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.
    The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.
    It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.
    Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopper
    Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.
    Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.
    I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard pass

    Dugdawg said:

    H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.

    False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.
    JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.

    Dugdawg said:

    H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.

    False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.
    JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.
    Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.

    What about Europeans. Can they be hired?

    You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
    You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.

    You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
    JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.

    I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.

    I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.

    You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
    It's all been laid out clearly in black and white, in your own words, that

    1.) You are for open borders for cheap labor.

    2.) You lied about this fact and denied it several times.

    3.) You're a 'businessman' (allegedly) that hires people (allegedly).

    4.) You don't want to pay a livable wage, and would rather hire immigrants over Americans because they won't complain about it. Seems racist to take advantage of people from other countries like that.

    You don't allow for nuance in positions, so you won't be afforded any either.

    You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.

    Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
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