WOOF

Neighbor2972

https://twitter.com/jpgrant12/status/1193302341971169280

Rapeculturedawg

OLYMPIA!!!

dnc

Whiffing on the entire 2020 class and then taking a commit from Grant does not feel unlike losing to Oregon and Stanford and then taking a long snapper.

We knew this commitment was coming and it’s probably a good thing but meh.

FireCohen

dnc said:

Whiffing on the entire 2020 class and then taking a commit from Grant does not feel unlike losing to Oregon and Stanford and then taking a long snapper.

We knew this commitment was coming and it’s probably a good thing but meh.

i trust the coaches................NOT.......@firehop

backthepack

He’s good. I like 6”10 guys who can spread the floor because they can shoot. Perfect for our system.

dnc

Nevermind I'm in on Grant now

https://twitter.com/jc94sea/status/1193306274005278720?s=20

SWOON

CallMeBigErn

dnc said:

Nevermind I'm in on Grant now

https://twitter.com/jc94sea/status/1193306274005278720?s=20

SWOON

Despite popular belief, that is not Jaden McDaniels' Twitter.

dnc

CallMeBigErn said:

dnc said:

Nevermind I'm in on Grant now

https://twitter.com/jc94sea/status/1193306274005278720?s=20

SWOON

Despite popular belief, that is not Jaden McDaniels' Twitter.

HUH?????????????















https://twitter.com/Jmcdaniels7

CallMeBigErn

dnc said:

CallMeBigErn said:

dnc said:

Nevermind I'm in on Grant now

https://twitter.com/jc94sea/status/1193306274005278720?s=20

SWOON

Despite popular belief, that is not Jaden McDaniels' Twitter.

HUH?????????????















https://twitter.com/Jmcdaniels7

RoadDawg55

I like the idea of Grant. A big shooter that is the #51 player in the country. He’s not good enough to go pro for a couple years but his shooting lets him see the floor early. We need 3-4 year types no matter what, but especially if we are going to continue to bring in one and done types. One and done types without those type of guys around them are useless.

FireCohen

RoadDawg55 said:

I like the idea of Grant. A big shooter that is the #51 player in the country. He’s not good enough to go pro for a couple years but his shooting lets him see the floor early. We need 3-4 year types no matter what, but especially if we are going to continue to bring in one and done types. One and done types without those type of guys around them are useless.

we are fucked next year, but this year will speshul

RoadDawg55

FirePete said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I like the idea of Grant. A big shooter that is the #51 player in the country. He’s not good enough to go pro for a couple years but his shooting lets him see the floor early. We need 3-4 year types no matter what, but especially if we are going to continue to bring in one and done types. One and done types without those type of guys around them are useless.

we are fucked next year, but this year will speshul

We’ll see. It looks that way, but you never know. Hop may be able to cobble together a good enough roster to make the tournament. I agree that this year is the year we have a chance to do something big.

dnc

FirePete said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I like the idea of Grant. A big shooter that is the #51 player in the country. He’s not good enough to go pro for a couple years but his shooting lets him see the floor early. We need 3-4 year types no matter what, but especially if we are going to continue to bring in one and done types. One and done types without those type of guys around them are useless.

we are fucked next year, but this year will speshul

Next year is the year we find out if Hop can develop. Bey, Battle, Quade, Wright, Hardy, Roberts, BPJ could be a tourney caliber team if development is maximized, especially if they can snag one or two key grad transfers, portals and/or kids who ask out if their LOIs after their coach leaves (like Naz and Dickerson did).

There’s still potential for next year but it won’t be as good as this year certainly.

LIFPO

greenblood

This is the type of recruit (2-3 year players) that helps win championships. Oregon has learned that the "one and done" method isn't working. Oregon's success mostly comes from 2-3 year starters or graduate transfers. I think graduate transfers can be far more impactful than non lottery pick "one and dones"

2001400ex

greenblood said:

This is the type of recruit (2-3 year players) that helps win championships. Oregon has learned that the "one and done" method isn't working. Oregon's success mostly comes from 2-3 year starters or graduate transfers. I think graduate transfers can be far more impactful than non lottery pick "one and dones"

Everyone but Kentucky realizes that. Look how Duke runs their roster. Juniors and seniors have experience that's impossible to replace.

2001400ex

dnc said:

FirePete said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I like the idea of Grant. A big shooter that is the #51 player in the country. He’s not good enough to go pro for a couple years but his shooting lets him see the floor early. We need 3-4 year types no matter what, but especially if we are going to continue to bring in one and done types. One and done types without those type of guys around them are useless.

we are fucked next year, but this year will speshul

Next year is the year we find out if Hop can develop. Bey, Battle, Quade, Wright, Hardy, Roberts, BPJ could be a tourney caliber team if development is maximized, especially if they can snag one or two key grad transfers, portals and/or kids who ask out if their LOIs after their coach leaves (like Naz and Dickerson did).

There’s still potential for next year but it won’t be as good as this year certainly.

LIFPO

I think we realized that last year. We won a game in the tourney.

I'm just glad hop realizes Jaden and Isaiah are gone. Romar would have stopped recruiting for three years if he landed them thinking they'd stay.

RoadDawg55

greenblood said:

This is the type of recruit (2-3 year players) that helps win championships. Oregon has learned that the "one and done" method isn't working. Oregon's success mostly comes from 2-3 year starters or graduate transfers. I think graduate transfers can be far more impactful than non lottery pick "one and dones"

One and dones get the hype, but rarely win titles. Kentucky has won one title under Calipari. That team had Terrence Jones (sophomore), Dorian Lamb (sophomore), and Darius Miller (senior).

Duke has won one since they went heavy with one and done types. That team had Quinn Cook (senior), Amile Jefferson (junior), and Marshall Plumlee (junior).

Villanova has won two without any one and dones. Virginia last year was a veteran team.

North Carolina had a veteran team when they won.

So, one and dones aren’t really all they are cracked up to be. Duke had 3 last year that were top 10 picks and they didn’t win. You need a couple established players to mix with the one and dones to win. Nobody has won without having that.

The most valuable players in CBB are the ones that can play right away but stay for 3-4 years.

This UW team with Nowell would be legitimate contender to win. We are probably a player or two away right now but LIPO. We are going to be damn good.

TTJ

Yes, it’s good to have veterans. Yes, a blended recruiting style can be helpful.

But the Dukes, UNCs, and Villanovas are hardly shying away from guys who project as early draft entrants.

animate

One and dones are largely an ego dick measuring contest.

Teams with talent that's matured and developed with continuity win.

But one and dones exists for money reasons so it is what it is.

RoadDawg55

TTJ said:

Yes, it’s good to have veterans. Yes, a blended recruiting style can be helpful.

But the Dukes, UNCs, and Villanovas are hardly shying away from guys who project as early draft entrants.

Villanova hasn’t had a single one and done that I can remember. I don’t think that’s their style. Same for Bennett at Virginia. Agree about UNC, but they are far from being like Duke and Kentucky.

2001400ex

RoadDawg55 said:

TTJ said:

Yes, it’s good to have veterans. Yes, a blended recruiting style can be helpful.

But the Dukes, UNCs, and Villanovas are hardly shying away from guys who project as early draft entrants.

Villanova hasn’t had a single one and done that I can remember. I don’t think that’s their style. Same for Bennett at Virginia. Agree about UNC, but they are far from being like Duke and Kentucky.

I assume that's correct about Villanova and Virginia. If it is, makes it even more crazy three recruits we've gotten to come to UW. They've owned college basketball the last 6 or so years.