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A Guide to Statistics on Historical Trends in Income Inequality

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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    People have been fucking before marriage for centuries and digging it. But there's a reason why the institution of marriage is a necessary evil for the successful raising of yoots. With how easy and cheap BC is in the 21st century there's no excuse for getting knocked up with a baby you can't take care of.
    BC ain't 100%. I managed to slip one past the goalie while my wife was on it.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,010

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    People have been fucking before marriage for centuries and digging it. But there's a reason why the institution of marriage is a necessary evil for the successful raising of yoots. With how easy and cheap BC is in the 21st century there's no excuse for getting knocked up with a baby you can't take care of.
    When this was an actual concern for me, there was one, not excuse, but reason it happened: birth control pills required parental consent and not everybody wanted to give said consent, still believing that abstinence was the way to go. They also made girls gain weight. I'm being dead serious. A chick in high school caused me a scare because she wasn't taking the pills because she said they made her fat. I almost bit this bullet.

    Now docs prescribe birth control pills for teenage girls for all kinds of reasons beyond actual birth control (it's a hormone after all), so from stigma standpoint even prudish parents will put their kids on the pill and rationalize it's to help them manage a heavy flow or whatever. When I was growing up in the 80s, parents were loathe to put their daughters on the pill because it was tantamount to giving them the green light to screw. That's changed ... a lot.

    And condoms have always been a bit of a kill joy.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,072 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    People have been fucking before marriage for centuries and digging it. But there's a reason why the institution of marriage is a necessary evil for the successful raising of yoots. With how easy and cheap BC is in the 21st century there's no excuse for getting knocked up with a baby you can't take care of.
    BC ain't 100%. I managed to slip one past the goalie while my wife was on it.
    Not saying miracles can't happen. Don't twist. But the rate of failure if it's taken correctly (i.e., no missed days) is next to nil.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,966

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    But why did that morality component exist and how did it come into existence? It wasn't always there. Why did Society find the need to create it?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,699 Standard Supporter
    https://www.tmz.com/2019/11/06/ti-teen-daughter-sex-doctor-gynecologist-still-virgin-hymen/

    Like Chris Rock says - it's the dad's job to keep his daughter off the pole. Literally and figuratively.

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,477 Swaye's Wigwam
    More Developed Economies have more income inequality.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,010
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    But why did that morality component exist and how did it come into existence? It wasn't always there. Why did Society find the need to create it?
    That's a chicken and egg question I guess. Deconstructed, I suppose all religious or moral cannon serves some practical societal purpose.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,010

    More Developed Economies have more income inequality.

    Said another way, in a developed economy, there is more winning for winners to win. In an undeveloped economy, the better people just eat a little less shit than their inferior counterparts.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    But why did that morality component exist and how did it come into existence? It wasn't always there. Why did Society find the need to create it?
    That's a chicken and egg question I guess. Deconstructed, I suppose all religious or moral cannon serves some practical societal purpose.
    All the food rules (no shellfish, no pork) I assume came from a place where people were getting sick from eating those things.

    But what’s the practical purpose to tithing 20% of your income to a pedophile in a funny robe?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,010

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    But why did that morality component exist and how did it come into existence? It wasn't always there. Why did Society find the need to create it?
    That's a chicken and egg question I guess. Deconstructed, I suppose all religious or moral cannon serves some practical societal purpose.
    All the food rules (no shellfish, no pork) I assume came from a place where people were getting sick from eating those things.

    But what’s the practical purpose to tithing 20% of your income to a pedophile in a funny robe?
    Administrative overhead? Somebody gotta pay for it.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,966

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    But why did that morality component exist and how did it come into existence? It wasn't always there. Why did Society find the need to create it?
    That's a chicken and egg question I guess. Deconstructed, I suppose all religious or moral cannon serves some practical societal purpose.
    I don't know about all but most do.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    People can still make it in this country. Not being obsessed over what someone else has is a good start. No substitute for brains and hard work

    Bill Gates being worth billions didn't come at my expense. What he developed has made my life easier

    We actually did the flooring at his early office. At night. And he was roaming the halls

    Most people don't want to work 24/7. I didn't. The rich people I worked for did

    There is no socialist or communist system ever that made as many people rich or comfortable middle as America

    Simply an indisputable fact

    So stop worrying and get your ass to work kids. Stop buying into bullshit like climate change. Embrace progress and cheap energy

    Don't give up

    1- Don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant in HS
    2- Graduate HS
    3- Get job
    4- Get married

    Follow these 4 easy steps and your odds of living in poverty are less than 3%.

    #itshard
    #itsaprocess
    Brother I've been singing this tune for 20 years.
    And just look at the consequences when we as a society fail to hold people to these enter level expectations. I'm not talking about passing a law or employing some sort of morals police. I'm just talking about sending a message to everyone who lives here that this is an expectation that we believe everyone should achieve or attempt to achieve.

    I say we should place a social stigma on not doing these things that's as least as strong as we have on smoking and or using the word "fag" in public. There should be some level of public shame if you don't clear this low bar that's at least equal to what you'd get if you lit up a cigarette in a restaurant.
    Most of what ails the country would be solved by these steps. But the cycle of inter generational bad decision making seems impossible to break.
    And now we've entwined race in these issues to the point that we as a society can no longer say what everyone knows is true or at least we used to know they were true. People didn't used to stigmatize out of wedlock births 60 years ago because they were a bunch of prudes who didn't approve of sex outside of marriage. Out of wedlock births were stigmatized because of the burden it placed on the family and society. Religion and morality were just the vehicles used to impose the stigma but they weren't the reason for it.
    Agree, but I think it was both. There was always a morality component about fucking before being married. My wife's family was all over that shit. Of course everyone is full of shit and does shit behind closed doors, but hypocrisy is another thread.
    But why did that morality component exist and how did it come into existence? It wasn't always there. Why did Society find the need to create it?
    That's a chicken and egg question I guess. Deconstructed, I suppose all religious or moral cannon serves some practical societal purpose.
    All the food rules (no shellfish, no pork) I assume came from a place where people were getting sick from eating those things.

    But what’s the practical purpose to tithing 20% of your income to a pedophile in a funny robe?
    Administrative overhead? Somebody gotta pay for it.
    A good lawyer ain’t cheap
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,671 Standard Supporter

    More Developed Economies have more income inequality.

    Said another way, in a developed economy, there is more winning for winners to win. In an undeveloped economy, the better people just eat a little less shit than their inferior counterparts.
    but but but in a third world country you have the absolute dirt poors and the extremely wealthy ruling class. The only thing in between is the gun men carry out the atrocities and skimming a couple of bucks.

    Bigger income gaps or smaller? developed countries at least end up with a middle class
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