George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
In my view you prescribe the the sanitized view of Lincoln we all got in school. That’s fine. But if you chose to, much research and commentary/analysis is available. And not from fringe publications either.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
In my view you prescribe the the sanitized view of Lincoln we all got in school. That’s fine. But if you chose to, much research and commentary/analysis is available. And not from fringe publications either.
Maybe we have a different view on the matter. I’m not sure why that upsets you so much.
Who's upset? I enjoy historical debates.
Sure, there's the sanitized view of Lincoln that merits some criticism. But it all seems pretty nit picky to me. He doesn't have to be a Saint- i.e., "Father Abraham" - to have affected the end of slavery in this country.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
On Hamilton, he was a piece of shit and no one except smart people knew or cared about. The proposal was to put Tubman on the $10 bill. Then this thing came out and Hamilton became a darling of the left (because dumb people get their history through musicals). Next thing you know, Tubman moves to the $20.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
On Hamilton, he was a piece of shit and no one except smart people knew or cared about. The proposal was to put Tubman on the $10 bill. Then this thing came out and Hamilton became a darling of the left (because dumb people get their history through musicals). Next thing you know, Tubman moves to the $20.
If you knew the kind of shit they were teaching in one room school houses in Illinois in the early 1800's you'd understand why old Abe might have had some conflicting views on race
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
On Hamilton, he was a piece of shit and no one except smart people knew or cared about. The proposal was to put Tubman on the $10 bill. Then this thing came out and Hamilton became a darling of the left (because dumb people get their history through musicals). Next thing you know, Tubman moves to the $20.
I stayed at a resort 5 mins down the road from wear Hamilton was born. Was too lazy to venture down to see the place.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
In my view you prescribe the the sanitized view of Lincoln we all got in school. That’s fine. But if you chose to, much research and commentary/analysis is available. And not from fringe publications either.
Maybe we have a different view on the matter. I’m not sure why that upsets you so much.
Who's upset? I enjoy historical debates.
Sure, there's the sanitized view of Lincoln that merits some criticism. But it all seems pretty nit picky to me. He doesn't have to be a Saint- i.e., "Father Abraham" - to have affected the end of slavery in this country.
If you knew the kind of shit they were teaching in one room school houses in Illinois in the early 1800's you'd understand why old Abe might have had some conflicting views on race
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
Grant very much gave a shit @RaceBannon . His administration decimated the first version of the KKK. He sent federal troops to the South multiple times to protect freedmen. But ultimately, even most Northerners were racist as fuck, and there wasn't the political will power to keep Reconstruction going. It was easier just to look the other way and let the Southern Dems retake the state governments.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sure
I greatly admire all three men.
We all should.
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.
Yeah. But how was he a great president
Homestead Act Transcontinental Railroad Act Emancipation Proclamation Britain & France didn't recognize CSA Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies 13th Amendment Defeated the South & saved the Union
Advocated ethnic cleansing Deported his critics Government censorship Suspended habeas corpus Appointed Ambrose Burnside Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Ok!
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
What is "ethnic cleaning"?
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a mess
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
In my view you prescribe the the sanitized view of Lincoln we all got in school. That’s fine. But if you chose to, much research and commentary/analysis is available. And not from fringe publications either.
Maybe we have a different view on the matter. I’m not sure why that upsets you so much.
Who's upset? I enjoy historical debates.
Sure, there's the sanitized view of Lincoln that merits some criticism. But it all seems pretty nit picky to me. He doesn't have to be a Saint- i.e., "Father Abraham" - to have affected the end of slavery in this country.
You
Have I down voted a single post of yours here? Have I gone ad hominem on you? Doesn't exactly look like a butt hurt poster.
If you knew the kind of shit they were teaching in one room school houses in Illinois in the early 1800's you'd understand why old Abe might have had some conflicting views on race
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
Grant very much gave a shit @RaceBannon . His administration decimated the first version of the KKK. He sent federal troops to the South multiple times to protect freedmen. But ultimately, even most Northerners were racist as fuck, and there wasn't the political will power to keep Reconstruction going. It was easier just to look the other way and let the Southern Dems retake the state governments.
Sounds like he didn't really give a shit by then
The North lived for a century pointing at the south as northern cities segregated and lynched the Black work force that migrated there for the Industrial Revolution.
If you knew the kind of shit they were teaching in one room school houses in Illinois in the early 1800's you'd understand why old Abe might have had some conflicting views on race
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
Grant very much gave a shit @RaceBannon . His administration decimated the first version of the KKK. He sent federal troops to the South multiple times to protect freedmen. But ultimately, even most Northerners were racist as fuck, and there wasn't the political will power to keep Reconstruction going. It was easier just to look the other way and let the Southern Dems retake the state governments.
Sounds like he didn't really give a shit by then
The North lived for a century pointing at the south as northern cities segregated and lynched the Black work force that migrated there for the Industrial Revolution.
He did give a shit, before he didn't. I just finished a 1000 page bio on the guy.
Regarding the second paragraph, one of my favorite Randy Newman songs "Rednecks" tells this history perfectly.
If you knew the kind of shit they were teaching in one room school houses in Illinois in the early 1800's you'd understand why old Abe might have had some conflicting views on race
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
Grant very much gave a shit @RaceBannon . His administration decimated the first version of the KKK. He sent federal troops to the South multiple times to protect freedmen. But ultimately, even most Northerners were racist as fuck, and there wasn't the political will power to keep Reconstruction going. It was easier just to look the other way and let the Southern Dems retake the state governments.
Sounds like he didn't really give a shit by then
The North lived for a century pointing at the south as northern cities segregated and lynched the Black work force that migrated there for the Industrial Revolution.
He did give a shit, before he didn't. I just finished a 1000 page bio on the guy.
Regarding the second paragraph, one of my favorite Randy Newman songs "Rednecks" tells this history perfectly.
I know you like Grant. People forget that I'm a troll
If you knew the kind of shit they were teaching in one room school houses in Illinois in the early 1800's you'd understand why old Abe might have had some conflicting views on race
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
Grant very much gave a shit @RaceBannon . His administration decimated the first version of the KKK. He sent federal troops to the South multiple times to protect freedmen. But ultimately, even most Northerners were racist as fuck, and there wasn't the political will power to keep Reconstruction going. It was easier just to look the other way and let the Southern Dems retake the state governments.
Sounds like he didn't really give a shit by then
The North lived for a century pointing at the south as northern cities segregated and lynched the Black work force that migrated there for the Industrial Revolution.
He did give a shit, before he didn't. I just finished a 1000 page bio on the guy.
Regarding the second paragraph, one of my favorite Randy Newman songs "Rednecks" tells this history perfectly.
I know you like Grant. People forget that I'm a troll
If you knew the kind of shit they were teaching in one room school houses in Illinois in the early 1800's you'd understand why old Abe might have had some conflicting views on race
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
Grant very much gave a shit @RaceBannon . His administration decimated the first version of the KKK. He sent federal troops to the South multiple times to protect freedmen. But ultimately, even most Northerners were racist as fuck, and there wasn't the political will power to keep Reconstruction going. It was easier just to look the other way and let the Southern Dems retake the state governments.
Sounds like he didn't really give a shit by then
The North lived for a century pointing at the south as northern cities segregated and lynched the Black work force that migrated there for the Industrial Revolution.
He did give a shit, before he didn't. I just finished a 1000 page bio on the guy.
Regarding the second paragraph, one of my favorite Randy Newman songs "Rednecks" tells this history perfectly.
I know you like Grant. People forget that I'm a troll
Comments
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/largest-mass-execution-us-history-150-years-ago-today/
In my view you prescribe the the sanitized view of Lincoln we all got in school. That’s fine. But if you chose to, much research and commentary/analysis is available. And not from fringe publications either.
Here is some info I read a view years ago. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2006/11/a-nuanced-view-of-great-emancipator/
“Every generation invents a new Lincoln,” said Fredrickson – a fact that makes the historiography of Lincoln’s views on race a tangled tale.“
Maybe we have a different view on the matter. Many people do. I’m not sure why that upsets you so much.
Good beat, easy to dance to. A peach.
Sure, there's the sanitized view of Lincoln that merits some criticism. But it all seems pretty nit picky to me. He doesn't have to be a Saint- i.e., "Father Abraham" - to have affected the end of slavery in this country.
That was a time of REAL white supremacy and it wasn't even all that controversial. It was a necessary part of slavery. You can't own someone equal to you.
I would say that regardless of whether emancipation was a war decision, a political one, or something he thought was right, Abe did it and paid for it with his brains on the stage below
We fucked up reconstruction for a century after he was gone. Sometimes dying helps your legacy. Andy Johnson gets most of the blame then you had US Grant who really didn't give a shit by then
The North lived for a century pointing at the south as northern cities segregated and lynched the Black work force that migrated there for the Industrial Revolution.
Regarding the second paragraph, one of my favorite Randy Newman songs "Rednecks" tells this history perfectly.
I don’t
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