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SP+ rankings are baffling

Overall: 13th
Offense: 7th
Defense: 38th
Special Teams: 2nd

Next closest team with 3 losses is USC at 23.

Shout out to the special teams turnaround this year. Dramatically better. Although we're still not getting anything out of our return game.

Offense 7th? That is the highest we've been ranked in the Petersen era. I think we got a pretty big boost after putting up some very good numbers against an overvalued defense (Oregon was ranked #1 going into Saturday). Makes the Stanford performance even more head scratching.

Defense 38th. We fell off a cliff here. Worst defense in the Petersen era. Last 3 years we were 4th, 13th, and 4th.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27888218/sp+-rankings-week-8-wild-week-leads-big-shakeups

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  • Mad_SonMad_Son Member Posts: 10,171

    Overall: 13th
    Offense: 7th
    Defense: 38th
    Special Teams: 2nd

    Next closest team with 3 losses is USC at 23.

    Shout out to the special teams turnaround this year. Dramatically better. Although we're still not getting anything out of our return game.

    Offense 7th? That is the highest we've been ranked in the Petersen era. I think we got a pretty big boost after putting up some very good numbers against an overvalued defense (Oregon was ranked #1 going into Saturday). Makes the Stanford performance even more head scratching.

    Defense 38th. We fell off a cliff here. Worst defense in the Petersen era. Last 3 years we were 4th, 13th, and 4th.

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27888218/sp+-rankings-week-8-wild-week-leads-big-shakeups

    Also Sagarin has us at 18 and FPI at 14. The thing is what we know - we've been upset. We also know it's Pete's fault. This is a flawed team but most of the pieces are there. If Pete screwed his head on straight and we start simply playing our best players we are an instant national title contender.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Neither the offense or the defense completely suck, they just aren't good enough to make plays when you need them to.

    Our defense has carried our offense the last few years, this year Eason is bailing out our bad offense, next year the defense will improve but our offense will suck. An endless cycle of being one piece away.

    This. Defense will be good next year, but if Eason doesn’t come back the offense will suck. Then we basically have to wait for Huard and he actually has to be good early on. Nothing guaranteed at all.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Neither the offense or the defense completely suck, they just aren't good enough to make plays when you need them to.

    Our defense has carried our offense the last few years, this year Eason is bailing out our bad offense, next year the defense will improve but our offense will suck. An endless cycle of being one piece away.

    This. Defense will be good next year, but if Eason doesn’t come back the offense will suck. Then we basically have to wait for Huard and he actually has to be good early on. Nothing guaranteed at all.
    Have you seen Sirmon play? That’s what I thought.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club
    The offense is #28 nationally through 8 games vs #88 last year. 35.6 ppg thus far vs 26 ppg last year. Would have been nice to have Gaskin and Eason on the same team.
  • halfbrainmanmolderhalfbrainmanmolder Member Posts: 215

    The offense is #28 nationally through 8 games vs #88 last year. 35.6 ppg thus far vs 26 ppg last year. Would have been nice to have Gaskin and Eason on the same team.

    Would be nice for sure but it is way down the totem pole in terms of importance. Compared to the fucktard play call / misuse of personnel (not just WRs, even at RB position) are much bigger reason our offense is not doing better than it is now.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,716 Swaye's Wigwam

    The offense is #28 nationally through 8 games vs #88 last year. 35.6 ppg thus far vs 26 ppg last year. Would have been nice to have Gaskin and Eason on the same team.

    Would've been nice with an experienced OC who could make halftime adjustments
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,616 Standard Supporter

    3 losses

    Only metric I need
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,211
    Looks like we're making a late push to get in to the S+P playoffs!
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,163
    This is the kind of shit you'd see from a Jim Mora team. Probably even worse. 5-3 is an abject failure. Even if we're to go on a run and finish 10-3, the season is still a massive disappointment. A QB like Eason is what typically puts a team over the top into title contention. We've completely squandered that opportunity.
  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,988 Founders Club

    Looks like we're making a late push to get in to the S+P playoffs!

    Are you saying there’s a chance to win an offseason natty during the season?

    Chincredible!
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,358 Founders Club

    Neither the offense or the defense completely suck, they just aren't good enough to make plays when you need them to.

    Our defense has carried our offense the last few years, this year Eason is bailing out our bad offense, next year the defense will improve but our offense will suck. An endless cycle of being one piece away.

    This. Defense will be good next year, but if Eason doesn’t come back the offense will suck. Then we basically have to wait for Huard and he actually has to be good early on. Nothing guaranteed at all.
    I usually agree with you but I struggle to see where good defense is going to come from. The LBers next year will be an abortion. Unless Calvert is super uber stud or something?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
    The impact of making every field goal is just impossible to overstate.

    If this is for real and we have two more years of it in store we knight maybe actually do something one day.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,489 Standard Supporter
    Winning on Tableau >>>>>>> Winning on the Field
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Swaye said:

    Neither the offense or the defense completely suck, they just aren't good enough to make plays when you need them to.

    Our defense has carried our offense the last few years, this year Eason is bailing out our bad offense, next year the defense will improve but our offense will suck. An endless cycle of being one piece away.

    This. Defense will be good next year, but if Eason doesn’t come back the offense will suck. Then we basically have to wait for Huard and he actually has to be good early on. Nothing guaranteed at all.
    I usually agree with you but I struggle to see where good defense is going to come from. The LBers next year will be an abortion. Unless Calvert is super uber stud or something?
    They will still be at least somewhat weak at LB. everywhere else should be good. DL could even be great, especially if Levi returns.
  • Neighbor2972Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,309
    Best 4 loss (and 3 loss) team in the country, rather easily. suck it cuougz


  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    whlinder said:

    3 losses

    Only metric I need
    4
  • Neighbor2972Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,309
    Why play the games when we have computers? This is getting ridiculous lol

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