Same people pissed in their pants when Trump told NATO to pay up
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That has nothing to do with this decision.
It has everything to do with the TDS crowd freaking out regardless of what he does
I know there have been way too many blockbuster fake scandals but some of us recall when the narrative was that the reckless Trump was going to destroy NATO
If you don't like Turkey kick them out
This brings that closer. I dont like America being bound by treaty to defend the piece of shit leader of Turkey
Who is a pal of Obama
Again with the NATO talking point that is totally irrelevant to this move.
If anything, that should give us leverage against Turkey. Unless Trump too much of a pussy to stand up to Erdogan.
Again, what did we gain by making this move and betraying allies?
So far you’ve been unwilling to answer, because you know it’s nothing.
I've answered
Too many retarded monkeys here
Trumptard
Daddy
Blah blah blah
Turkey is our ally.
Seems like a recipe for a diplomatic solution.
Trump is the leader. He’s not doing his job by abdicating his responsibilities.
Same people pissed in their pants when Trump told NATO to pay up
Lead
That has nothing to do with this decision.
It has everything to do with the TDS crowd freaking out regardless of what he does
I know there have been way too many blockbuster fake scandals but some of us recall when the narrative was that the reckless Trump was going to destroy NATO
If you don't like Turkey kick them out
This brings that closer. I dont like America being bound by treaty to defend the piece of shit leader of Turkey
Who is a pal of Obama
Again with the NATO talking point that is totally irrelevant to this move.
If anything, that should give us leverage against Turkey. Unless Trump too much of a pussy to stand up to Erdogan.
Again, what did we gain by making this move and betraying allies?
So far you’ve been unwilling to answer, because you know it’s nothing.
I've answered
Too many retarded monkeys here
Trumptard
Daddy
Blah blah blah
Turkey is our ally.
Seems like a recipe for a diplomatic solution.
Trump is the leader. He’s not doing his job by abdicating his responsibilities.
Any time you want to answer the question, we can try again. Otherwise it’s a clear victory for me. Many are calling it a GREAT victory. Not me, I’m too humble. But lots of people are saying it. Maybe it’s true after all.
Any time you want to answer the question, we can try again. Otherwise it’s a clear victory for me. Many are calling it a GREAT victory. Not me, I’m too humble. But lots of people are saying it. Maybe it’s true after all.
Any time you want to answer the question, we can try again. Otherwise it’s a clear victory for me. Many are calling it a GREAT victory. Not me, I’m too humble. But lots of people are saying it. Maybe it’s true after all.
Asked and answered
You don't have to like it
Off topic ramblings about NATO are a non answer and you know it.
Any time you want to answer the question, we can try again. Otherwise it’s a clear victory for me. Many are calling it a GREAT victory. Not me, I’m too humble. But lots of people are saying it. Maybe it’s true after all.
Asked and answered
You don't have to like it
Off topic ramblings about NATO are a non answer and you know it.
Sounds like you supported bringing the troops home before you didn't
We aren’t bringing them home. That’s the point.
We are and everytime Trump tries to expand it the globalist military industrial tools cry bloody murder
I guess we aren't bringing them home the right way.
I’m glad you agree we aren’t bringing them home.
So what was the strategic thinking behind this move?
Trump bad
When you can expand your thinking you can answer your own question
We're bringing the boys home
You just said it was too hard. They’re not coming home.
Seems like a conveniently timed redeployment that leaves our allies to be slaughtered by our other allies is the best we can do.
Shameful shit.
Again, what did we gain here?
Turkey is our ally for better or worse. They have been for decades and decades. So if you have a beef with this, I would suggest you redirect your anger to the right places.
Your fake outrage should be directed at canceling the ghost of Eisenhower.
Yes they are our ally.
We are the leaders of said alliance.
Lead.
I remember when it was really really bad for Trump to flex with NATO to make them pay their fair share. It was a despicable act that alienated our allies.
Sounds like you supported bringing the troops home before you didn't
We aren’t bringing them home. That’s the point.
We are and everytime Trump tries to expand it the globalist military industrial tools cry bloody murder
I guess we aren't bringing them home the right way.
I’m glad you agree we aren’t bringing them home.
So what was the strategic thinking behind this move?
Trump bad
When you can expand your thinking you can answer your own question
We're bringing the boys home
You just said it was too hard. They’re not coming home.
Seems like a conveniently timed redeployment that leaves our allies to be slaughtered by our other allies is the best we can do.
Shameful shit.
Again, what did we gain here?
Turkey is our ally for better or worse. They have been for decades and decades. So if you have a beef with this, I would suggest you redirect your anger to the right places.
Your fake outrage should be directed at canceling the ghost of Eisenhower.
Yes they are our ally.
We are the leaders of said alliance.
Lead.
I remember when it was really really bad for Trump to flex with NATO to make them pay their fair share. It was a despicable act that alienated our allies.
Do you remember that?
Do you remember how this has nothing to do with NATO?
Sounds like you supported bringing the troops home before you didn't
We aren’t bringing them home. That’s the point.
We are and everytime Trump tries to expand it the globalist military industrial tools cry bloody murder
I guess we aren't bringing them home the right way.
I’m glad you agree we aren’t bringing them home.
So what was the strategic thinking behind this move?
Trump bad
When you can expand your thinking you can answer your own question
We're bringing the boys home
You just said it was too hard. They’re not coming home.
Seems like a conveniently timed redeployment that leaves our allies to be slaughtered by our other allies is the best we can do.
Shameful shit.
Again, what did we gain here?
Turkey is our ally for better or worse. They have been for decades and decades. So if you have a beef with this, I would suggest you redirect your anger to the right places.
Your fake outrage should be directed at canceling the ghost of Eisenhower.
Yes they are our ally.
We are the leaders of said alliance.
Lead.
I remember when it was really really bad for Trump to flex with NATO to make them pay their fair share. It was a despicable act that alienated our allies.
Do you remember that?
Do you remember how this has nothing to do with NATO?
Chasing your tail is no way to burn calories my fren.
It’s almost like having a leader that the world ridicules and hates isn’t working. Can’t stop Turkey from killing our allies. It’s hard.
Pathetic.
Were you pretending to care when you tore your hair out over Obama withdrawing troops from Iraq?
When did I do that?
Both Obama and Trump promised to get the troops home.
Turkey is being isolated. Which is good. What brilliant leadership let them in NATO anyway
If Turkey is attacked we are bound to defend them
Let's abolish NATO. I'm in
You did that back in your forever war defending days.
I support bringing the troops home, but holy fuck this was a colossal mistake.
We still have a shit ton of troops serving over there, so the idea that we are “bringing them home” is bullshit.
And we just rolled over and acted like there’s nothing we could do to convince Turkey to stand the fuck down. It’s hard!
Abolish NATO. Brilliant.
NATO needs re-examined at the very least.
Trump started down the path by demanding the member nations pay their own freight. That's not unreasonable.
Next, relative to aggression by members - and this is specific to Turkey almost exclusively though one could argue the US would be subject to the same coalition agreement process - member nations should be required to come in with some percentage of other members or the aggression would be held in violation and the nation gets the boot. Turkey is playing both sides of the fence here - they are beating on the Kurds but hiding behind their NATO status relative to a bigger bully coming in to kick sand in their face.
We? are really good going in as a member of a coalition. WWI, WWII, Korea (tie in the standings but very much a win relative to democracy in the region), Desert Storm, Bosnia/Balkans, early stages of Desert Swarm/Afghanistan, even partnering with Russia on wiping out ISIS....US is damned near undefeated. When we go solo/world's police, not so much - Vietnam, Somalia, later stages of Iraq/Afghanistan.
The never ending wars need to end. That is independent of but but Trump, but but Obama, but but anybody - it's a ridiculous waste of resources that are badly needed to address problems at home instead.
This is the perfect example of how Effed our policy in the Middle East has been...and specifically Syria (on both sides of the aisle) for the last 8 years:
Underscoring the absurd contractions of Washington's Syria policy over the course of the past seven years of proxy war, the pro-Turkish Syrian National Army rebels are actually led by Salim Idris (among two other top commanders), the former Chief of Staff of the Supreme Military Council of the FSA.
During the early years of the conflict in Syria, when the US was supporting an anti-Assad insurgency in pursuit of regime change, Idris was the "US man in Syria" among other top FSA leaders.
This means America's former top "rebel" leader is now leading an invasion force against America's current Kurdish partners (the SDF) with NATO ally Turkey's support.
As even The New York Times has for years admitted, the United States was paying the salaries of Idris and other "rebel" fighters in Syria seeking to topple Assad, along with supplying them with weapons and increasingly sophisticated military hardware and equipment.
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But I'm sure a payday loan clerk knows more
Good game.
You don't have to like it
Do you remember that?
Trump started down the path by demanding the member nations pay their own freight. That's not unreasonable.
Next, relative to aggression by members - and this is specific to Turkey almost exclusively though one could argue the US would be subject to the same coalition agreement process - member nations should be required to come in with some percentage of other members or the aggression would be held in violation and the nation gets the boot. Turkey is playing both sides of the fence here - they are beating on the Kurds but hiding behind their NATO status relative to a bigger bully coming in to kick sand in their face.
We? are really good going in as a member of a coalition. WWI, WWII, Korea (tie in the standings but very much a win relative to democracy in the region), Desert Storm, Bosnia/Balkans, early stages of Desert Swarm/Afghanistan, even partnering with Russia on wiping out ISIS....US is damned near undefeated. When we go solo/world's police, not so much - Vietnam, Somalia, later stages of Iraq/Afghanistan.
The never ending wars need to end. That is independent of but but Trump, but but Obama, but but anybody - it's a ridiculous waste of resources that are badly needed to address problems at home instead.
Former US-Backed Rebel Leader Now Spearheading Attack On US-Backed Syrian Kurds
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/former-us-backed-rebel-leader-now-leading-invasion-against-us-backed-syrian-kurds
Underscoring the absurd contractions of Washington's Syria policy over the course of the past seven years of proxy war, the pro-Turkish Syrian National Army rebels are actually led by Salim Idris (among two other top commanders), the former Chief of Staff of the Supreme Military Council of the FSA.
During the early years of the conflict in Syria, when the US was supporting an anti-Assad insurgency in pursuit of regime change, Idris was the "US man in Syria" among other top FSA leaders.
This means America's former top "rebel" leader is now leading an invasion force against America's current Kurdish partners (the SDF) with NATO ally Turkey's support.
As even The New York Times has for years admitted, the United States was paying the salaries of Idris and other "rebel" fighters in Syria seeking to topple Assad, along with supplying them with weapons and increasingly sophisticated military hardware and equipment.