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Tax rate on richest 400 lower than every other group

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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    based on the poasts from guys like Mike and Sleddog it seems like our investments in schools have not produced universally good results...
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,521
    edited October 2019
    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    Military spending is too high

    Roads in large part are maintained at the state level. Have you ever crossed the Oregon and California border on I-5?

    School spending is also primarily done at the State level. The Federal government provides a small fraction of the revenue. Those charts will show that the problem isn't funding, it's the efficiency at which those funds are used.
    https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/10facts/edlite-chart.html

    You give the government $40 million to build a bridge, they'll build the bridge. You give the government $50 million to build the same bridge, they'll build the same exact bridge for $50 million. Unless the government is held accountable for their inefficiencies, there will always be a shortage of funds.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,091
    edited October 2019
    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    A the biggest part of our taxes goes to pay for things that government has no business being involved in. Retirement and healthcare for oldsters and yes I would say that paying for grandma's hip replacement is an unbelievable shitty investment.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,473 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    based on the poasts from guys like Mike and Sleddog it seems like our investments in schools have not produced universally good results...
    Our tax investment in your education has wrought us another communist. Certainly a waste of money as it's a failed system. But you'e not shmart enough to figure that out.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,521
    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    based on the poasts from guys like Mike and Sleddog it seems like our investments in schools have not produced universally good results...
    They haven't. The U.S. ranks 17th overall in education performance, yet we spend the third most dollars per student. Pretty shitty investment I would say. We spend money like the Yankees, but we perform like the Angels.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,091

    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    based on the poasts from guys like Mike and Sleddog it seems like our investments in schools have not produced universally good results...
    They haven't. The U.S. ranks 17th overall in education performance, yet we spend the third most dollars per student. Pretty shitty investment I would say. We spend money like the Yankees, but we perform like the Angels.
    Also, some of the states with the lower per pupil spending like Utah have some of the higher student test scores and grades.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,521
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    based on the poasts from guys like Mike and Sleddog it seems like our investments in schools have not produced universally good results...
    They haven't. The U.S. ranks 17th overall in education performance, yet we spend the third most dollars per student. Pretty shitty investment I would say. We spend money like the Yankees, but we perform like the Angels.
    Also, some of the states with the lower per pupil spending like Utah have some of the higher student test scores and grades.
    Careful...

    You've been warned
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,091

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    based on the poasts from guys like Mike and Sleddog it seems like our investments in schools have not produced universally good results...
    They haven't. The U.S. ranks 17th overall in education performance, yet we spend the third most dollars per student. Pretty shitty investment I would say. We spend money like the Yankees, but we perform like the Angels.
    Also, some of the states with the lower per pupil spending like Utah have some of the higher student test scores and grades.
    Careful...

    You've been warned
    Iowa is another one. Gosh, now what do those two states share in common?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    Military spending is too high

    Roads in large part are maintained at the state level. Have you ever crossed the Oregon and California border on I-5?

    School spending is also primarily done at the State level. The Federal government provides a small fraction of the revenue. Those charts will show that the problem isn't funding, it's the efficiency at which those funds are used.
    https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/10facts/edlite-chart.html

    You give the government $40 million to build a bridge, they'll build the bridge. You give the government $50 million to build the same bridge, they'll build the same exact bridge for $50 million. Unless the government is held accountable for their inefficiencies, there will always be a shortage of funds.
    Keep up with the discussion. Which is total taxes including State and local. And yes the interstate system was a federal initiative and investment.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,521
    edited October 2019
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    Military spending is too high

    Roads in large part are maintained at the state level. Have you ever crossed the Oregon and California border on I-5?

    School spending is also primarily done at the State level. The Federal government provides a small fraction of the revenue. Those charts will show that the problem isn't funding, it's the efficiency at which those funds are used.
    https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/10facts/edlite-chart.html

    You give the government $40 million to build a bridge, they'll build the bridge. You give the government $50 million to build the same bridge, they'll build the same exact bridge for $50 million. Unless the government is held accountable for their inefficiencies, there will always be a shortage of funds.
    Keep up with the discussion. Which is total taxes including State and local. And yes the interstate system was a federal initiative and investment.
    The state maintains it. It was created as a military initiative.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,473 Standard Supporter
    Sent my kids to private school. Cost per class was about 1/3 of public schools but outcomes were much higher.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Society is going to breakdown if the top 400 don't have those extra millions!!!!!!!!!!

    The government is better at investing than the private sector!!!
    A large part of our taxes over the years have gone to the military, roads and other infrastructure, and schools. Would you say those are poor investments?
    Lol
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Sledog said:

    Sent my kids to private school. Cost per class was about 1/3 of public schools but outcomes were much higher.

    big if true.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    Sent my kids to private school. Cost per class was about 1/3 of public schools but outcomes were much higher.

    My kids go to private school. You are a fucking liar.

    Averaging out public school per pupil cost tk-12 is about $12,000 in Los Angeles. Catholic parochial school up to 8th grade is about $10,000 a year. Non catholic private schools are $25,000 or so for tk-8. Catholic high schools are $20,000 at a minimum.

    Why do trumptrash, the dumbest people on the planet, lie so much?
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    Sent my kids to private school. Cost per class was about 1/3 of public schools but outcomes were much higher.

    Furthermore, a kid with a 3.5 gpa from Muir in Pasadena (public school) will get into any UC far ahead of a kid with a 3.5 from Loyola (elite Catholic school).
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2019

    Sledog said:

    Sent my kids to private school. Cost per class was about 1/3 of public schools but outcomes were much higher.

    My kids go to private school. You are a fucking liar.

    Averaging out public school per pupil cost tk-12 is about $12,000 in Los Angeles. Catholic parochial school up to 8th grade is about $10,000 a year. Non catholic private schools are $25,000 or so for tk-8. Catholic high schools are $20,000 at a minimum.

    Why do trumptrash, the dumbest people on the planet, lie so much?
    I’m for vouchers.

    That said, I’m not sure your kids in a special needs program qualifies as private school.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,626
    Sledog said:

    Sent my kids to private school. Cost per class was about 1/3 of public schools but outcomes were much higher.

    Bull fucking shit.
  • GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
    Sledog knows all about educational value
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,473 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2019

    Sledog said:

    Sent my kids to private school. Cost per class was about 1/3 of public schools but outcomes were much higher.

    My kids go to private school. You are a fucking liar.

    Averaging out public school per pupil cost tk-12 is about $12,000 in Los Angeles. Catholic parochial school up to 8th grade is about $10,000 a year. Non catholic private schools are $25,000 or so for tk-8. Catholic high schools are $20,000 at a minimum.

    Why do trumptrash, the dumbest people on the planet, lie so much?
    My kids aren't young they're grown men and women. Wasn't as costly then, at that time Kali spent about 280k per class. Private at it's highest for mine was 6k. 6x20 is120k. Better outcome.
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