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Over 300 former national security professionals call out Trump for "unconscionable abuse of power"

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

    Bob doesn't read the next two sentences. Where I explain what I meant by that. You really are struggling today bro. Worried bout you.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,868 Standard Supporter

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,868 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Yeah I did. It bears little resemblance to the transcript and what the Ukraine president says was said and how he took it.

    So explain away.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,868 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2019
    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,868 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
    Explain away. Focus.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

    Bob doesn't read the next two sentences. Where I explain what I meant by that. You really are struggling today bro. Worried bout you.
    You mean the next two sentences where you just mouthed vacuous twaddle?

    Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up.

    Yeah, that's real fucking insightful you fucking moron.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

    Bob doesn't read the next two sentences. Where I explain what I meant by that. You really are struggling today bro. Worried bout you.
    You mean the next two sentences where you just mouthed vacuous twaddle?

    Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up.

    Yeah, that's real fucking insightful you fucking moron.
    Yes you can post. But clearly can't read.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    I put my favorite gifs in a dropbox folder for easy use from laptop or phone

    Old dog

    New tricks
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
    Explain away. Focus.
    Huh?
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,742 Standard Supporter
    @insecuredawg - great source for unbiased views https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/national-security-action/
    did they have this letter written before or after the phone call? CBS using those guys as a source (and you doing the same) is why no one trusts the media
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,742 Standard Supporter
    I should have made this easier for those who don't like to read The NSA =
    National Security Action (NSA) is a left-wing 501(c)(4) advocacy group largely composed of former Obama administration staffers and leadership. NSA works to advance global policies and oppose the foreign policy of the Trump administration.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,483 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    I should have made this easier for those who don't like to read The NSA =
    National Security Action (NSA) is a left-wing 501(c)(4) advocacy group largely composed of former Obama administration staffers and leadership. NSA works to advance global policies and oppose the foreign policy of the Trump administration.

    More Obama commie plants.

    I wish you pussies would get to your revolution I ain't getting any younger!

    But I will be replaced when I go by my kids who are just like me!
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,868 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
    Explain away. Focus.
    Huh?
    You still haven't answered or explained from a legal perspective how Trump broke the law and is 'treasonous'.

    Nobody has, in fact.

  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,742 Standard Supporter
    treasonous is not what they want - they just want impeachable.


    Remember high crimes and misdemeanors and we don't like him. I think that is how it is written
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