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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I believe Joe Biden

    Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma in April 2014, two months after Ukraine's Russia-friendly president was ousted by protesters and as his father was heavily involved in U.S. efforts to support the new pro-Western government and its pledge to fight corruption. The hiring of the younger Biden immediately raised concerns that the Ukrainian firm, whose owner was a political ally of the ousted president, was seeking to gain influence with the Obama administration.

    Two years later, then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees from Ukraine unless a top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, was fired. Shokin was accused by many in Ukraine and in the West of being soft on corruption, but he also had been leading an investigation into Burisma's owner.

    Trump has claimed Shokin "was after" Hunter Biden and the vice president was trying to protect his son.

    “The very thing they’re accusing President Trump of doing, Biden did,” Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told “Fox & Friends” Monday.

    Fox News reported on the Biden controversy in April. The New York Times published a lengthy story on the matter in May. But the controversy flew largely under the radar until now. While the heat is on Trump over whether or not he pressured Ukraine to investigate the Bidens, that firestorm has prompted multiple news outlets to revisit the original Biden controversy in order to provide context.

    Trump allies are hammering that as the real scandal, as video of Biden once bragging about his role in having Shokin fired has gone viral.


    The only one claiming either Biden did anything wrong per your post is Trump....So again - why do you lie like this?
    Really? No one else but Trump is claiming Biden did anything wrong? And you're calling someone else a liar?
    True. He ignored Fox news, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the Trump dicksuckers in the media.
    Ok talking point boy tell us how what Biden did is legal but what Trump did is illegal
    You figure it out.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/05/factchecking-trumps-fox-news-interview/
    What does this even mean?
    You are smart figure it out.

    Here's a hint Race. You might have heard this before. It's not the action that gets politicians in trouble, it's the cover up.
    What cover up?
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  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,672
    Would one of you Hondo Bros please explain why Joe Biden was bragging about holding up a $billion in loans guarantees unless a prosecutor was fired?

    What did this guy do wrong and why was the Obama admin insisting on this guy being fired? Why were Barry/Joe so interested in meddling with Ukraine's internal politics?
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Blu82 said:

    Would one of you Hondo Bros please explain why Joe Biden was bragging about holding up a $billion in loans guarantees unless a prosecutor was fired?

    What did this guy do wrong and why was the Obama admin insisting on this guy being fired? Why were Barry/Joe so interested in meddling with Ukraine's internal politics?

    Because US policy man!!!!
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Blu82 said:

    Would one of you Hondo Bros please explain why Joe Biden was bragging about holding up a $billion in loans guarantees unless a prosecutor was fired?

    What did this guy do wrong and why was the Obama admin insisting on this guy being fired? Why were Barry/Joe so interested in meddling with Ukraine's internal politics?

    The link has been posted. Read it.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Shokin was corrupt. His deputy resigned a few months before basically saying the prosecutor office was a joke with no independence and was facilitating the corruption in the country. IMF was threatening to withhold the 40 billion dollar bailout unless he was sacked. Our Western European allies were pushing for his ouster as well.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    GDS said:

    Shokin was corrupt. His deputy resigned a few months before basically saying the prosecutor office was a joke with no independence and was facilitating the corruption in the country. IMF was threatening to withhold the 40 billion dollar bailout unless he was sacked. Our Western European allies were pushing for his ouster as well.

    Those are just details.
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