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DUCKFIGHTER ILLUSTRATED: CRISES AT MONTLAKE DAY 2,190

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    digitsdigits Member Posts: 1,412
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    Don won his second title year 6 then #3 in year 7 then blew two more in a row by losing the Apple Cup twice

    Don beat Texas in the Sun Bowl and Michigan in the Rose Bowl

    There is plenty of room above the bar that James set. That's where I would prefer Pete aim.

    Don also beat USC and UCLA in his first year when those schools were both top 15. He beat USC in 1977 when they were top 10. He beat Texas when they were #6. He beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl when they were #4.

    Pete beat Stanford in 2016, and that's really about it in terms of marquee victories.
    I'd add Colorado

    Don won his second title year 6 then #3 in year 7 then blew two more in a row by losing the Apple Cup twice

    Don beat Texas in the Sun Bowl and Michigan in the Rose Bowl

    There is plenty of room above the bar that James set. That's where I would prefer Pete aim.

    Don also beat USC and UCLA in his first year when those schools were both top 15. He beat USC in 1977 when they were top 10. He beat Texas when they were #6. He beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl when they were #4.

    Pete beat Stanford in 2016, and that's really about it in terms of marquee victories.
    I know it's just the Cuog, but I think you have to add 2016 and 2018 ACs because it decided who won the North... as well as the Pac 12 championship game wins.
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    Homebrew_DawgHomebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,648
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    PurpleJ said:

    Your best recent effort. I hope Pete read it then started planning a day of oklahoma and gassers followed by running every stair in the stadium in full pads, then went to sleep in his office and started looking for an offensive coordinator that can actually exploit a blitz.

    But I don’t think Pete wants to change. That is what scares me most.

    I suspect Pete epitomizes the undersized, try hard, white guy stereotype. If so, this is a victim belief that is usually subconscious, and if he doesn’t let it go he won’t change. Instead he will try harder and demand greater execution towards perfectionism. I believe he wants to prove his success at BSU was not anomalous. Thus, he will continue to have inexperienced underlings at OC. But in his 6th season in a Power 5 conference, weak as the PAC 12 is, and having lost 3 NY6 bowl games, there’s ample evidence his insane process (unwillingness to change his script) needs adaptation. 2016 should have revealed the way forward to someone as cerebral as Pete. Turn the offense over to a competent OC and bring in players with tough, motherfucker attitudes.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 59,966
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    Swaye said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Your best recent effort. I hope Pete read it then started planning a day of oklahoma and gassers followed by running every stair in the stadium in full pads, then went to sleep in his office and started looking for an offensive coordinator that can actually exploit a blitz.

    But I don’t think Pete wants to change. That is what scares me most.

    I suspect Pete epitomizes the undersized, try hard, white guy stereotype. If so, this is a victim belief that is usually subconscious, and if he doesn’t let it go he won’t change. Instead he will try harder and demand greater execution towards perfectionism. I believe he wants to prove his success at BSU was not anomalous. Thus, he will continue to have inexperienced underlings at OC. But in his 6th season in a Power 5 conference, weak as the PAC 12 is, and having lost 3 NY6 bowl games, there’s ample evidence his insane process (unwillingness to change his script) needs adaptation. 2016 should have revealed the way forward to someone as cerebral as Pete. Turn the offense over to a competent OC and bring in players with tough, motherfucker attitudes.
    This is what scares us all. DJ was smart enough to see that his process needed major tweaks to reach the top. He adapted and won a NC. Pete, to this point, seems very resistant to change. In short, we fuct.
    He recognized it enough to bring in Tedford. So why hasn't he duplicated that effort?
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,947
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    Swaye said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Your best recent effort. I hope Pete read it then started planning a day of oklahoma and gassers followed by running every stair in the stadium in full pads, then went to sleep in his office and started looking for an offensive coordinator that can actually exploit a blitz.

    But I don’t think Pete wants to change. That is what scares me most.

    I suspect Pete epitomizes the undersized, try hard, white guy stereotype. If so, this is a victim belief that is usually subconscious, and if he doesn’t let it go he won’t change. Instead he will try harder and demand greater execution towards perfectionism. I believe he wants to prove his success at BSU was not anomalous. Thus, he will continue to have inexperienced underlings at OC. But in his 6th season in a Power 5 conference, weak as the PAC 12 is, and having lost 3 NY6 bowl games, there’s ample evidence his insane process (unwillingness to change his script) needs adaptation. 2016 should have revealed the way forward to someone as cerebral as Pete. Turn the offense over to a competent OC and bring in players with tough, motherfucker attitudes.
    This is what scares us all. DJ was smart enough to see that his process needed major tweaks to reach the top. He adapted and won a NC. Pete, to this point, seems very resistant to change. In short, we fuct.
    He recognized it enough to bring in Tedford. So why hasn't he duplicated that effort?
    Tedford keeps saying no
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,497
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    PurpleJ said:

    Your best recent effort. I hope Pete read it then started planning a day of oklahoma and gassers followed by running every stair in the stadium in full pads, then went to sleep in his office and started looking for an offensive coordinator that can actually exploit a blitz.

    But I don’t think Pete wants to change. That is what scares me most.

    I suspect Pete epitomizes the undersized, try hard, white guy stereotype. If so, this is a victim belief that is usually subconscious, and if he doesn’t let it go he won’t change. Instead he will try harder and demand greater execution towards perfectionism. I believe he wants to prove his success at BSU was not anomalous. Thus, he will continue to have inexperienced underlings at OC. But in his 6th season in a Power 5 conference, weak as the PAC 12 is, and having lost 3 NY6 bowl games, there’s ample evidence his insane process (unwillingness to change his script) needs adaptation. 2016 should have revealed the way forward to someone as cerebral as Pete. Turn the offense over to a competent OC and bring in players with tough, motherfucker attitudes.
    I think it’s more likely that his success at Boise bred a bit of arrogance and he thinks what he is doing will get him there. Agree that he hires OCs that will suck his dick and run HIS offense. It will take a bad season to make him rethink things. Pete needs to realize that the last several elite PAC teams all had dominant ground games, and we don’t. It isn’t a point of emphasis in his play calling or his preparation. We can’t run on everybody and we need to be able to if we want to take the next step.

    Also, the reluctance to recruit potential felons is just as likely to be coming from upper campus as it is from Pete. Regardless, he wouldn’t have offered guys like Pharms and Stevens.
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