Already calling it for 2020? I don’t know man...depends who he’s up against. If people get out and vote he’s toast.
It's almost like you said this all before, back in 2016, before licking your wounds for the following 2.5 years.
Hope springs eternal.
What part of lowest turnout since 1994 did you fail to comprehend? If people turn out in more typical numbers, I think he will lose. I don’t know if they will. Probably depends a great deal on who gets the D nomination.
Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.
I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example
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Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.
Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
My counter is that people are more likely to vote for someone than against. The hate was real starting in 2015 up to the election that he had no shot to win
You have no reasonable alternative at this point. And @dnc isn't going to give you one
On the other hand a fair number of folks stayed home instead of voting for Trump in 2016
This year they vote according to my anecdotal evidence
Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.
I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example
Dig deeper
Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.
Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
My counter is that people are more likely to vote for someone than against. The hate was real starting in 2015 up to the election that he had no shot to win
You have no reasonable alternative at this point. And @dnc isn't going to give you one
On the other hand a fair number of folks stayed home instead of voting for Trump in 2016
This year they vote according to my anecdotal evidence
Which candidate can beat Trump? We can all see the problems with Biden, and these problems aren't getting better between now and the election.
Warren is so far left that Trump will have a field day making her defend her policies, same with Bernie. So who do you think is going to win the nomination?
No clue who gets the nomination. I’m on the Yang Gang for the record. But I recognize he is on the outside looking in still. Trending up though as others are moving down and dropping out, so maybe there’s a chance...
No clue who gets the nomination. I’m on the Yang Gang for the record. But I recognize he is on the outside looking in still. Trending up though as others are moving down and dropping out, so maybe there’s a chance...
Yang has no chance of winning the nomination. You're looking at Biden, Warren, or Bernie. Amy K could win it but she isn't getting the nomination either.
Unless Biden has a complete public mental meltdown he'll hold onto a enough support to win a split field. He has the black vote which doesn't help him in Iowa or NH but everything in SC.
Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.
I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example
Dig deeper
Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.
Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
Trump alienated a lot of the traditional GOP base with his rhetoric but managed to split the Dem base. This is part of low turnout.
Most of the GOP is solidly on board with his policy work and judge appointments at this point and is also vehemently opposed to the progressives currently threatening to pull ahead in the DNC.
The Dem base is still split. Progressives won't vote Biden or Hillary(2016) and we've yet to see if moderates will vote full on progressive. Imo they won't.
Trump alienated a lot of the traditional GOP base with his rhetoric but managed to split the Dem base. This is part of low turnout.
Most of the GOP is solidly on board with his policy work and judge appointments at this point and is also vehemently opposed to the progressives currently threatening to pull ahead in the DNC.
The Dem base is still split. Progressives won't vote Biden or Hillary(2016) and we've yet to see if moderates will vote full on progressive. Imo they won't.
Trump alienated a lot of the traditional GOP base with his rhetoric but managed to split the Dem base. This is part of low turnout.
Most of the GOP is solidly on board with his policy work and judge appointments at this point and is also vehemently opposed to the progressives currently threatening to pull ahead in the DNC.
The Dem base is still split. Progressives won't vote Biden or Hillary(2016) and we've yet to see if moderates will vote full on progressive. Imo they won't.
Already calling it for 2020? I don’t know man...depends who he’s up against. If people get out and vote he’s toast.
Pretty much calling it
Trump's base will get out and vote and his base has increased because a lot of GOP types who sat out are coming out
We're looking at who he will be up against which is why I am confident
By 2012 Obama was less popular than he was in 2008 but the GOP didn't do shit for 4 years other than whine and complain. Still haven't come up with a healthcare fix by the way. Re elected
Trump has offered DACA deals, wall deals, infrastructure deals you name it. He's a spend and spend democrat.
Missed opportunity IMO spending three years on a phony collusion smear
Price to pay for that too
I'm voting for him, even though I despise his forced rollout of 5g (no 5g in Palm Beach though!), hate his henchmen (FCC chairman Ajit Pai, Pompeo, and others) and the fact that he hasn't done jack shit about closing the border and reducing immigration. The alternative is much worse. Bashar al Assad >>>>>>>>> ISIS.
Already calling it for 2020? I don’t know man...depends who he’s up against. If people get out and vote he’s toast.
Pretty much calling it
Trump's base will get out and vote and his base has increased because a lot of GOP types who sat out are coming out
We're looking at who he will be up against which is why I am confident
By 2012 Obama was less popular than he was in 2008 but the GOP didn't do shit for 4 years other than whine and complain. Still haven't come up with a healthcare fix by the way. Re elected
Trump has offered DACA deals, wall deals, infrastructure deals you name it. He's a spend and spend democrat.
Missed opportunity IMO spending three years on a phony collusion smear
Price to pay for that too
I'm voting for him, even though I despise his 5g policies and the fact that he hasn't done jack shit about closing the border and reducing immigration. The alternative is much worse. Bashar al Assad >>>>>>>>> ISIS.
Look local first. You already see the winds of discontent growing with all the bullshit kid glove treatment of the criminally homeless, social deviants.
People are tired of getting their shit stolen and having to sidestep feces on the sidewalks. Or stepping over some bum sleeping in a business' doorway. The local progressives are just driving the middle farther to the right. They think they are taking a victory lap because of Trump being a dick regularly - but the fact of the matter is, people react to what's happening right down the street from them, not what some big boobed Minka or mad cow like Rachael rant about daily on TV.
More than borders, more than the economy, more than tariffs....that shit is up close and real to people.
Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.
I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example
Dig deeper
Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.
Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
Getting people engaged in certain states is what matters. More people voting Dem in NY and California doesn’t mean shit.
Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.
I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example
Dig deeper
Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.
Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
Getting people engaged in certain states is what matters. More people voting Dem in NY and California doesn’t mean shit.
No shit. As always this will be decided by Florida and the Midwest. Which is why he’s bailing out farmers that are suffering under his trade war policies and the environmental destruction to large swaths of farmland that devastated crops in some communities.
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You have no reasonable alternative at this point. And @dnc isn't going to give you one
On the other hand a fair number of folks stayed home instead of voting for Trump in 2016
This year they vote according to my anecdotal evidence
Warren is so far left that Trump will have a field day making her defend her policies, same with Bernie. So who do you think is going to win the nomination?
Unless Biden has a complete public mental meltdown he'll hold onto a enough support to win a split field. He has the black vote which doesn't help him in Iowa or NH but everything in SC.
Most of the GOP is solidly on board with his policy work and judge appointments at this point and is also vehemently opposed to the progressives currently threatening to pull ahead in the DNC.
The Dem base is still split. Progressives won't vote Biden or Hillary(2016) and we've yet to see if moderates will vote full on progressive. Imo they won't.
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Trump pulls even greater electoral numbers this time around.
They won't.
Who cares if he's a giant dick? Look at his opposition and tell me about tone and respect
IKW
People are tired of getting their shit stolen and having to sidestep feces on the sidewalks. Or stepping over some bum sleeping in a business' doorway. The local progressives are just driving the middle farther to the right. They think they are taking a victory lap because of Trump being a dick regularly - but the fact of the matter is, people react to what's happening right down the street from them, not what some big boobed Minka or mad cow like Rachael rant about daily on TV.
More than borders, more than the economy, more than tariffs....that shit is up close and real to people.