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How come "toxic masculinity" in the form of Honor killings is almost exclusively a Muslim problem?

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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 18,949
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    There are no words for this ignorance.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    edited September 2019
    HHusky said:

    There are no words for this ignorance.

    It's certainly not a problem in the west. Is there no toxic masculinity in the West?

    Latino culture has a lot of toxic masculinity. Are there a lot of honor killings in Mexico?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    I found one that happened here:


    Noor Almaleki was 20 years old and living in Pheonix when she and her friend, 43-year-old Amal Khalaf, were struck by a car driven by Noor’s father. While Amal survived, Noor later died, and her father, Faleh al-Maleki, was later convicted of killing his daughter.

    The case of Noor Almaleki has drawn attention, most recently last weekend on CBS’s “48 Hours: Mystery” program, as a suspected case of a so-called “Honor Killing”—one committed here in the United States.

    And yet, while the case of Noor Almaleki has made national headlines because it happened in Arizona, so-called “honor killings” happen around the world at an alarming rate, often with little press and no justice for the victim.



    Weird it was carried out by a Muslim.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,649
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    HHusky said:

    There are no words for this ignorance.

    Rashida is quite the piece of work, isn't she?

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 18,949
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    edited September 2019
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    There are no words for this ignorance.

    It's certainly not a problem in the west. Is there no toxic masculinity in the West?

    Latino culture has a lot of toxic masculinity. Are there a lot of honor killings in Mexico?
    The fact you use “honor killings” exclusively to describe Muslims murdering family members doesn’t mean that other cultures have fewer shame driven murders of family members. Your take is absurd. It’s factually incorrect.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    There are no words for this ignorance.

    It's certainly not a problem in the west. Is there no toxic masculinity in the West?

    Latino culture has a lot of toxic masculinity. Are there a lot of honor killings in Mexico?
    The fact you use “honor killings” exclusively to describe Muslims murdering family members doesn’t mean that other cultures have fewer shame driven murders of family members. Your take is absurd. It’s factually incorrect.
    I'm open to some evidence that these types of murders of women happen with the same frequency in other cultures. I'm sure there are some but once again you appear to be running interference for the Religion of Peace O'Keefed.

    This is where you tell me you have a Muslim friend that would never murder is daughter.
  • GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    Turn off the TV and go play outside please bob.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,463
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    The Mooselimb religion is incompatible with western culture. We've known this for over 1500 years. You can't rewrite it now. History people, history.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    What is behind the idea of killing someone for honour?
    Honour killings are deeply steeped in the tribal traditions of countries such as India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Syria, Persian Gulf countries and Turkey.

    Amnesty International says it boils down to a “deeply rooted belief that women are objects and commodities, not human beings entitled to dignity and rights equal to those of men”.


    Now what is it that those countries all share in common? I just can't quite put my finger on it.

    I blame the Israeli occupation.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Gwad said:

    Turn off the TV and go play outside please bob.

    Bob hates Muslims and wants you to as well.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Turn off the TV and go play outside please bob.

    Bob hates Muslims and wants you to as well.
    Hondo loves the way Muslims hate the Jews and admires the homosexuality of Afghani Muslims with their young boys.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    Europe Grapples with "Honor Killings"

    See, it's not just a Muslim problem.

    Oh wait:

    Experts say the problem is directly linked to the immigrant populations of the European countries.

    Thus, according to Böhmecke, most of Germany's honor-related crimes happen within the Turkish population, the largest foreign group. "Many of them have been living here for years, speak perfect German and are well-integrated. But they often call only after the violence has escalated," Böhmecke said.


  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    Still waiting on those other cultures that practice honor killing with anything near the frequency that Muslim practice it O'Keefed. Weird the way nearly all the Honor Killings taking place in Western countries are all being carried out by Muslims.

    What an odd coincidence.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 18,949
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    edited September 2019
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    There are no words for this ignorance.

    It's certainly not a problem in the west. Is there no toxic masculinity in the West?

    Latino culture has a lot of toxic masculinity. Are there a lot of honor killings in Mexico?
    The fact you use “honor killings” exclusively to describe Muslims murdering family members doesn’t mean that other cultures have fewer shame driven murders of family members. Your take is absurd. It’s factually incorrect.
    I'm open to some evidence that these types of murders of women happen with the same frequency in other cultures. I'm sure there are some but once again you appear to be running interference for the Religion of Peace O'Keefed.

    This is where you tell me you have a Muslim friend that would never murder is daughter.
    There is significant garden variety “honor killing” in tribal or mixed tribal and modern societies. Hindu honor killing in parts of India, for example, where Christian honor killings have also occurred. Even the highest guesstimates of honor killings in the US are very low. And this isn’t to ignore the fact that American parents are more likely to be their child’s murderer than a stranger is. The father is more likely to intentionally kill a rebellious teenager—just as the Bible commands.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    There are no words for this ignorance.

    It's certainly not a problem in the west. Is there no toxic masculinity in the West?

    Latino culture has a lot of toxic masculinity. Are there a lot of honor killings in Mexico?
    The fact you use “honor killings” exclusively to describe Muslims murdering family members doesn’t mean that other cultures have fewer shame driven murders of family members. Your take is absurd. It’s factually incorrect.
    I'm open to some evidence that these types of murders of women happen with the same frequency in other cultures. I'm sure there are some but once again you appear to be running interference for the Religion of Peace O'Keefed.

    This is where you tell me you have a Muslim friend that would never murder is daughter.
    There is significant garden variety “honor killing” in tribal or mixed tribal and modern societies. Hindu honor killing in parts of India, for example, where Christian honor killings have also occurred. Even the highest guesstimates of honor killings in the US are very low. And this isn’t to ignore the fact that American parents are more likely to be their child’s murderer than a stranger is. The father is more likely to intentionally kill a rebellious teenager—just as the Bible commands.
    You're comparing apples to dog shit O'Keefed. Parents who abuse their children and kill them aren't doing so as part of their religion. Christians murdering their daughters because they refuse to marry the person that they were arranged to marry or because they talked to a man who wasn't a relative or they posted a photo on Instagram is fucking unheard of outside maybe some severely mentally ill individuals in the West unless the person is Muslim.

    Anywhere you find Muslims you'll find honor killings and you'll also often find no actions taken by the authorities against the killers if they are in a Muslim country. Can you say the same about the few Christians who might have done something similar?

    Face it O'Keefed, Muslims murder gays, murder women and are generally more fucked up and backwards than the rest of the world, despite your Muslim friend who wouldn't hurt a fly.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    And of course other than you're unsupported bullshit about Christian father murdering their rebellious teenagers as commanded by the Bible you've provided nothing to show that honor killings happen outside of Muslim cultures with anything near the frequency that they do in Muslim cultures.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    The UN estimates that around 5,000 women and girls are murdered each year in so-called “honor killings” by members of their families
    “Honor” killings are widely reported in regions throughout the Middle East and South Asia, but these crimes against women occur in countries as varied as Bangladesh, Brazil, Canada, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan, Sweden, Syria, Turkey, Uganda, United Kingdom, and the United States.



    Love to do a little research into the honor killings being carried out in the UK, Sweden, United States and Canada. No doubt it's Christian fathers following the commands of the Bible, right O'Keefed?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 18,949
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    SFGbob said:

    And of course other than you're unsupported bullshit about Christian father murdering their rebellious teenagers as commanded by the Bible you've provided nothing to show that honor killings happen outside of Muslim cultures with anything near the frequency that they do in Muslim cultures.

    You have a very tiny number of religiously inspired murders of family members in the US. We have a growing number of Muslims here. Hint: people who want to live here probably like modernity, though we do have a number of murderous neo-pagan white supremacists who tend to be native born.
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