Why do ADs Continue to Promote O/D Coordinators to Head Coaches?

oregonblitzkrieg

It's FS. Most of the time it results in failure, except for rare cases like Chip, who happened to be head coaching material from the outset. It's like promoting an engineer to be a manager of people. Some can do it, but most can't. Totally different skill sets. Technical prowess and ability to strategize against an offense or a defense rarely translates to a CEO level ability to manage your henchmen, your players, your business, and guide your program to success with an eagle eye's view of the larger picture.

Mad_Son

So who should they take? Someone in business management?

HanseeHall78

Tyrone was never a coordinator.

haie

oregonblitzkrieg said:

It's FS. Most of the time it results in failure, except for rare cases like Chip, who happened to be head coaching material from the outset. It's like promoting an engineer to be a manager of people. Some can do it, but most can't. Totally different skill sets. Technical prowess and ability to strategize against an offense or a defense rarely translates to a CEO level ability to manage your henchmen, your players, your business, and guide your program to success with an eagle eye's view of the larger picture.

Let me educate you. Oregon fans thought after Chip they would get someone godly. They promoted Helfirch. He proceeded to shit himself, and then Oregon responded by hiring Taggert. Taggert was mediocre losing 3-38 to UW and doing nothing and still left that loser piece of shit party school for a party school that has at least won a championship.

Oregon responded by promoting a coordinator.

Don't you fucking losers get it? Urban, etc doesn't want to come to Eugene because it's a shit hole and Oregon is a piece of shit party school that will never win anything.

Elite coaches don't even respect you. Your D coordinator sure as hell didn't.

oregonblitzkrieg

haie said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

It's FS. Most of the time it results in failure, except for rare cases like Chip, who happened to be head coaching material from the outset. It's like promoting an engineer to be a manager of people. Some can do it, but most can't. Totally different skill sets. Technical prowess and ability to strategize against an offense or a defense rarely translates to a CEO level ability to manage your henchmen, your players, your business, and guide your program to success with an eagle eye's view of the larger picture.

Let me educate you. Oregon fans thought after Chip they would get someone godly. They promoted Helfirch. He proceeded to shit himself, and then Oregon responded by hiring Taggert. Taggert was mediocre losing 3-38 to UW and doing nothing and still left that loser piece of shit party school for a party school that has at least won a championship.

Oregon responded by promoting a coordinator.

Don't you fucking losers get it? Urban, etc doesn't want to come to Eugene because it's a shit hole and Oregon is a piece of shit party school that will never win anything.

Elite coaches don't even respect you. Your D coordinator sure as hell didn't.

You must be talking about FSU. The defending champs and their Heisman QB that Oregon plungered 59-20 in the CFB playoffs, right? You should try it sometime -- winning a playoff game. It's really cool. It's like winning a Heart of Dallas Bowl, only better.

Pitchfork51

haie said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

It's FS. Most of the time it results in failure, except for rare cases like Chip, who happened to be head coaching material from the outset. It's like promoting an engineer to be a manager of people. Some can do it, but most can't. Totally different skill sets. Technical prowess and ability to strategize against an offense or a defense rarely translates to a CEO level ability to manage your henchmen, your players, your business, and guide your program to success with an eagle eye's view of the larger picture.

Let me educate you. Oregon fans thought after Chip they would get someone godly. They promoted Helfirch. He proceeded to shit himself, and then Oregon responded by hiring Taggert. Taggert was mediocre losing 3-38 to UW and doing nothing and still left that loser piece of shit party school for a party school that has at least won a championship.

Oregon responded by promoting a coordinator.

Don't you fucking losers get it? Urban, etc doesn't want to come to Eugene because it's a shit hole and Oregon is a piece of shit party school that will never win anything.

Elite coaches don't even respect you. Your D coordinator sure as hell didn't.

Wtf is your problem with party schools?!!

backthepack

It has happened OBK has gone full quoock

dnc

backthepack said:

It has happened OBK has gone back to full quoock

haie

Pitchfork51 said:

haie said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

It's FS. Most of the time it results in failure, except for rare cases like Chip, who happened to be head coaching material from the outset. It's like promoting an engineer to be a manager of people. Some can do it, but most can't. Totally different skill sets. Technical prowess and ability to strategize against an offense or a defense rarely translates to a CEO level ability to manage your henchmen, your players, your business, and guide your program to success with an eagle eye's view of the larger picture.

Let me educate you. Oregon fans thought after Chip they would get someone godly. They promoted Helfirch. He proceeded to shit himself, and then Oregon responded by hiring Taggert. Taggert was mediocre losing 3-38 to UW and doing nothing and still left that loser piece of shit party school for a party school that has at least won a championship.

Oregon responded by promoting a coordinator.

Don't you fucking losers get it? Urban, etc doesn't want to come to Eugene because it's a shit hole and Oregon is a piece of shit party school that will never win anything.

Elite coaches don't even respect you. Your D coordinator sure as hell didn't.

Wtf is your problem with party schools?!!

I don't have a problem with them but ducks don't think they are one.

oregonblitzkrieg

haie said:

Pitchfork51 said:

haie said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

It's FS. Most of the time it results in failure, except for rare cases like Chip, who happened to be head coaching material from the outset. It's like promoting an engineer to be a manager of people. Some can do it, but most can't. Totally different skill sets. Technical prowess and ability to strategize against an offense or a defense rarely translates to a CEO level ability to manage your henchmen, your players, your business, and guide your program to success with an eagle eye's view of the larger picture.

Let me educate you. Oregon fans thought after Chip they would get someone godly. They promoted Helfirch. He proceeded to shit himself, and then Oregon responded by hiring Taggert. Taggert was mediocre losing 3-38 to UW and doing nothing and still left that loser piece of shit party school for a party school that has at least won a championship.

Oregon responded by promoting a coordinator.

Don't you fucking losers get it? Urban, etc doesn't want to come to Eugene because it's a shit hole and Oregon is a piece of shit party school that will never win anything.

Elite coaches don't even respect you. Your D coordinator sure as hell didn't.

Wtf is your problem with party schools?!!

I don't have a problem with them but ducks don't think they are one.

WSU is a party school. Why hate on your alma mater?

rodmansrage

jeremy pruitt was a DC, seems to be workin for race's vols'

http://twitter.com/MeghanTurbyfill/status/1168637746862333952

NEsnake12

Lol.

Dabo, Kirby Smart, and Lincoln Riley all disagree. So does Petersen from his Boise tenure. And you already mentioned Chip... that’s half of the top 10 coaches from this decade

oregonblitzkrieg

NEsnake12 said:

Lol.

Dabo, Kirby Smart, and Lincoln Riley all disagree. So does Petersen from his Boise tenure. And you already mentioned Chip... that’s half of the top 10 coaches from this decade

That's 5 coaches out of 126 teams, and not all of the coaches you just mentioned are great. Pete and Riley are passable, and don't belong in the same category as Chip. Not all 126 coaches are former coordinators, but I'd guess more than half are. Not a very good success rate. The point stands. Promoting coordinators to the head coaching job is generally FS and results in failure more often than not.

NEsnake12

oregonblitzkrieg said:

NEsnake12 said:

Lol.

Dabo, Kirby Smart, and Lincoln Riley all disagree. So does Petersen from his Boise tenure. And you already mentioned Chip... that’s half of the top 10 coaches from this decade

That's 5 coaches out of 126 teams, and not all of the coaches you just mentioned are great. Pete and Riley are passable, and don't belong in the same category as Chip. Not all 126 coaches are former coordinators, but I'd guess more than half are. Not a very good success rate. The point stands. Promoting coordinators to the head coaching job is generally FS and results in failure more often than not.

So you wanna pretend like hiring guys with head coaching experience is any more reliable?

Ty. Kevin Sumlin. Rich Rod. Lane Kiffin. Gary Andersen. Sonny Dykes. Jim Mora. SARK.

That’s just the Pac12 in the last 10-15 years. All were either dumpster fires from the get go, or ended up as dumpster fires eventually.

whlinder

Where else do you get head coaches from? They all have to get experience from somewhere.

At a big time school promoting an OC/DC is not the preferred method but there are only so many potentially great existing HCs at lower tier jobs.

Mad_Son

whlinder said:

Where else do you get head coaches from? They all have to get experience from somewhere.

At a big time school promoting an OC/DC is not the preferred method but there are only so many potentially great existing HCs at lower tier jobs.

Arby's night manager >> P5 coordinator

Most coaches fail. Just because OC/DC doesn't have a high success rate does not imply there is a better pool of candidates out there. Sure, ADs notoriously make stupid decisions all the time, that doesn't mean coordinators are a bad place to look for candidates.

haie

oregonblitzkrieg said:

haie said:

Pitchfork51 said:

haie said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

It's FS. Most of the time it results in failure, except for rare cases like Chip, who happened to be head coaching material from the outset. It's like promoting an engineer to be a manager of people. Some can do it, but most can't. Totally different skill sets. Technical prowess and ability to strategize against an offense or a defense rarely translates to a CEO level ability to manage your henchmen, your players, your business, and guide your program to success with an eagle eye's view of the larger picture.

Let me educate you. Oregon fans thought after Chip they would get someone godly. They promoted Helfirch. He proceeded to shit himself, and then Oregon responded by hiring Taggert. Taggert was mediocre losing 3-38 to UW and doing nothing and still left that loser piece of shit party school for a party school that has at least won a championship.

Oregon responded by promoting a coordinator.

Don't you fucking losers get it? Urban, etc doesn't want to come to Eugene because it's a shit hole and Oregon is a piece of shit party school that will never win anything.

Elite coaches don't even respect you. Your D coordinator sure as hell didn't.

Wtf is your problem with party schools?!!

I don't have a problem with them but ducks don't think they are one.

WSU is a party school. Why hate on your alma mater?

Keep melting down Lane. You won't even make it to Oct 19th.

#MultipleDegreesMultiplePacSchools

#WhatPoorPeopleFromOregonDontUnderstand

UWhuskytskeet

Let's look at the coaches from the current Top-5 in the AP poll.

• Clemson - Coordinator
  
• Alabama - Head Coach
  
• Georgia - Coordinator
  
• Oklahoma - Coordinator
  
• Ohio State - Coordinator
  

RaceBannon

The Pac 12 has three of the top ten winning percentage coaches active today, five years minimum

Petersen
Shaw
Chipper


Cristobal still sucks

oregonblitzkrieg

UWhuskytskeet said:

Let's look at the coaches from the current Top-5 in the AP poll.

• Clemson - Coordinator
  
• Alabama - Head Coach
  
• Georgia - Coordinator
  
• Oklahoma - Coordinator
  
• Ohio State - Coordinator
  

Oklahoma is like UW. They can get to the big games, but they never win them. Remove Ohio State from the list, their coach is unproven, will end up being their Helfrich. What has Georgia done lately?

whatshouldicareabout

oregonblitzkrieg said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Let's look at the coaches from the current Top-5 in the AP poll.

• Clemson - Coordinator
  
• Alabama - Head Coach
  
• Georgia - Coordinator
  
• Oklahoma - Coordinator
  
• Ohio State - Coordinator
  

Oklahoma is like UW. They can get to the big games, but they never win them. Remove Ohio State from the list, their coach is unproven, will end up being their Helfrich. What has Georgia done lately?

They were 1 play away from the National Championship 2 years ago