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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    To expound, no one is getting behind the dumb thing Biden says and embracing them as truth. His fans right them off as slip ups and faux pas. Biden is the left's version of W (and I still love W). Nobody who loved W believed he was right when he screwed up, we just defended them as slips of the tongue.

    With AOC, it's different. She's saying untrue things that her base actually believes. She's riling them up. And in the process drawing in some who were on the fringe and aren't very discerning.

    It's the Trump script to a t, just the left handed version of it.

    And just like with Trump, the other side attacking and calling it dumb is only going to reinforce to the true believers how right she is.

    She's done a good job coopting his strategy while tweaking the message.
    I invented the Trump analogy 2 years ago but it only goes so far and not as far as you are going here

    At some point it comes down to the message not just the messenger. Trump's message is one of hope and what's good for America.




    Christ.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,732

    Its going to be fun when @dnc hands it to Biden and he isn't a stupid racist all of a sudden


    I don't think they're giving it to Biden but that would be very fun.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    To expound, no one is getting behind the dumb thing Biden says and embracing them as truth. His fans right them off as slip ups and faux pas. Biden is the left's version of W (and I still love W). Nobody who loved W believed he was right when he screwed up, we just defended them as slips of the tongue.

    With AOC, it's different. She's saying untrue things that her base actually believes. She's riling them up. And in the process drawing in some who were on the fringe and aren't very discerning.

    It's the Trump script to a t, just the left handed version of it.

    And just like with Trump, the other side attacking and calling it dumb is only going to reinforce to the true believers how right she is.

    She's done a good job coopting his strategy while tweaking the message.
    I invented the Trump analogy 2 years ago but it only goes so far and not as far as you are going here

    At some point it comes down to the message not just the messenger. Trump's message is one of hope and what's good for America.




    Christ.
    And?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    Trump plays to a far broader base than AOC, for the tim being. AOC peoples are far noisier though, pound for pound.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213

    Trump plays to a far broader base than AOC, for the tim being. AOC peoples are far noisier though, pound for pound.

    AOC is able to appeal to the true believers and the hardcore left. She isn't winning over any moderate or conservative voters.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Trumps net approval numbers in Minn are quite a bit worse then Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. He's got better chances elsewhere.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Trumps net approval numbers in Minn are quite a bit worse then Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. He's got better chances elsewhere.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62119/rural-minnesota-s-democratic-voters-are-shifting-allegiances#latest
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    GDS said:

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Trumps net approval numbers in Minn are quite a bit worse then Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. He's got better chances elsewhere.
    While it would be better to have higher approval numbers until the Rats announce their nominee it's really not that important a number.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,016 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    Biden is old and senile. If his handlers didn't tell him what year it is he might not be able to tell you...

    I think you nailed AOC. AOC and Trump are sort of different sides of the same coin.
    Oh, I didn't know Trump was a bartender who only got 15,000 votes from a disinterested and uneducated group of constituents. What was the turnout in her district? Something like 5%? Go back to making fuzzy navels AOC.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,016 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    Disagree

    She won an election

    That's it
    She's going to win a lot more elections than Trump before it's all said and done.

    She's not going anywhere.
    She will be lucky to make it out of the next election cycle.

    Maybe in your liberal world it is smart to kill 25,000 middle and upper middle class paying jobs with benefits. To the families that were praying for Amazon to rain dollars from heaven with new jobs and infrastructure in run down neighborhoods, it was and is stupid. It has been two years and that bitch has not done one thing for her constituents other than embarrass them and hurt them financially.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    I think she gets re elected rather easily in her district
  • HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Hillary lost because she was unnecessarily beaten like a rented mule for 20 years. The right created the perception and media matters(not the website). Also not to mention our 200 year old system where our founders thought most of the country lived within 100 miles of each other.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Hillary lost because she was unnecessarily beaten like a rented mule for 20 years. The right created the perception and media matters(not the website). Also not to mention our 200 year old system where our founders thought most of the country lived within 100 miles of each other.
    That tends to happen when a public figure is widely disliked.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,732

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    Disagree

    She won an election

    That's it
    She's going to win a lot more elections than Trump before it's all said and done.

    She's not going anywhere.
    She will be lucky to make it out of the next election cycle.

    Maybe in your liberal world it is smart to kill 25,000 middle and upper middle class paying jobs with benefits. To the families that were praying for Amazon to rain dollars from heaven with new jobs and infrastructure in run down neighborhoods, it was and is stupid. It has been two years and that bitch has not done one thing for her constituents other than embarrass them and hurt them financially.
    you're dumb
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Hillary lost because she was unnecessarily beaten like a rented mule for 20 years. The right created the perception and media matters(not the website). Also not to mention our 200 year old system where our founders thought most of the country lived within 100 miles of each other.
    Pathetic. If you really believe that then you're dumbfuck. If you're just trolling. Bravo.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Hillary lost because she was unnecessarily beaten like a rented mule for 20 years. The right created the perception and media matters(not the website). Also not to mention our 200 year old system where our founders thought most of the country lived within 100 miles of each other.
    None of which was an issue until Election night when she lost unexpectedly

    Losers make excuses. Winners win

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    Owl

    Do you think Trump is being unnecessarily beaten like a rented mule or do you agree with the constant attacks? Its called politics.

    Will Trump lose in 2020 due to unnecessary attacks?
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    AOC is a face...the guy behind her (Saikat Chakrabarti...Harvard grad/Silicon Valley guy) was the brains of the operation and he got ran off and is under federal investigation. She's been pretty quiet since he left, and much more off-point when she has talked.

    Not sure she will last in her district...her running off Amazon cost a lot of connected Dems in NYC a lot of money. They won't primary her without an incident because of the # of followers she has (and they are the vocal nutjobs of the political spectrum), but they won't forget. Wouldn't surprise me though if you see Saikat get indicted and a quick announcement afterwards of a Primary challenge to clean up the district.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    https://foxnews.com/media/ocasio-cortez-warns-glaciers-infectious-diseases


    Fear sells. Yet another apocalyptic pronouncement to scare the kids at bedtime


    Heard another guy yesterday say that the rain forest probably has the cure to cancer and every disease but we will never know because it will all burn up.


    Just don't call it a religion.
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