Shell and Exxon's secret 1980s climate change warnings

Gwad

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/sep/19/shell-and-exxons-secret-1980s-climate-change-warnings

Although the details of global warming were foreign to most people in the 1980s, among the few who had a better idea than most were the companies contributing the most to it. Despite scientific uncertainties, the bottom line was this: oil firms recognized that their products added CO2 to the atmosphere, understood that this would lead to warming, and calculated the likely consequences. And then they chose to accept those risks on our behalf, at our expense, and without our knowledge.

RaceBannon

Saddle up your horse

2001400ex

Gwad said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/sep/19/shell-and-exxons-secret-1980s-climate-change-warnings

Although the details of global warming were foreign to most people in the 1980s, among the few who had a better idea than most were the companies contributing the most to it. Despite scientific uncertainties, the bottom line was this: oil firms recognized that their products added CO2 to the atmosphere, understood that this would lead to warming, and calculated the likely consequences. And then they chose to accept those risks on our behalf, at our expense, and without our knowledge.

Then paid off politicians to convince the simple minded that global warming is a fraud.

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

Gwad said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/sep/19/shell-and-exxons-secret-1980s-climate-change-warnings

Although the details of global warming were foreign to most people in the 1980s, among the few who had a better idea than most were the companies contributing the most to it. Despite scientific uncertainties, the bottom line was this: oil firms recognized that their products added CO2 to the atmosphere, understood that this would lead to warming, and calculated the likely consequences. And then they chose to accept those risks on our behalf, at our expense, and without our knowledge.

Then paid off politicians to convince the simple minded that global warming is a fraud.

How much did they pay the simple minded to convince Obama ran on single payer?

HoustonHusky

Ignore the fact literally none of their predictions came true (meter level sea level rise, desert conditions in the Midwest, etc) and you have something there.

Bendintheriver

HoustonHusky said:

Ignore the fact literally none of their predictions came true (meter level sea level rise, desert conditions in the Midwest, etc) and you have something there.

Yes, I think gwad did in fact, ignore the fact that literally none of their predictions came true.

All globalism worshipers seem to ignore facts.

Gwad

lol all their predictions are dated after the current year we are in.

Bendintheriver

I know. All those "dated" predictions in the 21st century have not come to pass either.

Aren't you supposed to be moving inland? I thought the coasts were all going to be underwater by now. All of our crops dead, Armageddon, mass hysteria, oh the horror!!!!!

How many more missed predicted catastrophes until you start to FEEL like you have been played? How many more "statistically adjusted" skewed "data" events need to happen before you start questioning the honesty of the globalism crowd?

RaceBannon

11 years


It will all be over soon

2001400ex

Bendintheriver said:

I know. All those "dated" predictions in the 21st century have not come to pass either.

Aren't you supposed to be moving inland? I thought the coasts were all going to be underwater by now. All of our crops dead, Armageddon, mass hysteria, oh the horror!!!!!

How many more missed predicted catastrophes until you start to FEEL like you have been played? How many more "statistically adjusted" skewed "data" events need to happen before you start questioning the honesty of the globalism crowd?

One can ignore the hysteria from blowhards and actually listen to what the scientists say. You do realize that basically the only people who say global warming is a myth are journalists and politicians, right? And the people who actually study the climate for a living pretty much all agree that global warming is real.

But yes you aren't getting played at all.

RaceBannon

2001400ex said:

Bendintheriver said:

I know. All those "dated" predictions in the 21st century have not come to pass either.

Aren't you supposed to be moving inland? I thought the coasts were all going to be underwater by now. All of our crops dead, Armageddon, mass hysteria, oh the horror!!!!!

How many more missed predicted catastrophes until you start to FEEL like you have been played? How many more "statistically adjusted" skewed "data" events need to happen before you start questioning the honesty of the globalism crowd?

One can ignore the hysteria from blowhards and actually listen to what the scientists say. You do realize that basically the only people who say global warming is a myth are journalists and politicians, right? And the people who actually study the climate for a living pretty much all agree that global warming is real.

But yes you aren't getting played at all.

None of this is true

Manufactured consent is for the weak minded along with false consensus

You cant prove your argument so you fall back on everyone says so


You're getting played because you're stupid and gullible and want the government to tell you how to live

RaceBannon

BleachedAnusDawg

Gwad said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/sep/19/shell-and-exxons-secret-1980s-climate-change-warnings

Although the details of global warming were foreign to most people in the 1980s, among the few who had a better idea than most were the companies contributing the most to it. Despite scientific uncertainties, the bottom line was this: oil firms recognized that their products added CO2 to the atmosphere, understood that this would lead to warming, and calculated the likely consequences. And then they chose to accept those risks on our behalf, at our expense, and without our knowledge.

I like to blame the drug dealer rather than the user.

UW_Doog_Bot

I always enjoy the bandwagon fallacy and the screams of science from the socialist left.

Sledog

Every decade they some up with a new scheme to take money from the populace. Nothing new.

USMChawk

Is Gwad and OBK alt?

pawz

USMChawk said:

Is Gwad and OBK alt?

no chance.

Sledog

Gwad said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/sep/19/shell-and-exxons-secret-1980s-climate-change-warnings

Although the details of global warming were foreign to most people in the 1980s, among the few who had a better idea than most were the companies contributing the most to it. Despite scientific uncertainties, the bottom line was this: oil firms recognized that their products added CO2 to the atmosphere, understood that this would lead to warming, and calculated the likely consequences. And then they chose to accept those risks on our behalf, at our expense, and without our knowledge.

I knew the article was fucked as soon as I read the words "amoral military".

That and no one but liberal climate change loons seem to know this document exists. Most likely it's made up bullshit by the climate change loons.